Golden Orb's included thermal paste

chuonthis

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I read in a bunch of places that this stuff that comes w/ the GOrb is some of the best stuff around while others say that it sucks. What are your opinions?

I already hooked it up with my cpu but I guess I can take off all that stuff...if I should, what should I use? Would normal silicon thermal grease be better than the included stuff? If not, then maybe I'll just get some Arctic Silver...
 

office boy

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I have no idea.. It looked ok, but it's against my policy to use any thermal paste (or pad) that come with a heatsink.
 

Homerboy

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it sucks.
Tried it and my CPU was WAY hot.
Removed it, used generic grease from Radi oShack and I'm running likea cucumber now.
 

DaddyG

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I believe that Thermaltake are using AMD recommended CHOMERICS T725 Phase Change Thermal Compound. Believe me IT DOES NOT SUCK. The Radio Shack crap will dry out faster than a Keg on a Friday night. You might neeed to encourage the compound to 'Change' by disconnecting your HSF fan, keep an eye on the temps. The change temp is usually around 58c. I don't know why people think that AMD is not capable of testing their own product and specifying the requirements. AMD spec'd Power Supplies, ya know what, they were right. AMD spec'd recommended mobo's ditto. AMD spec'd HSFs, no thermaltake Golden ORB crushers on their list, BUT every TOM, DICK and HARRY thinks they know better than AMD when it comes to the thermal interface. PCTC is the only (yes Arctic Silver is not approved) approved compound by AMD.
 

chuonthis

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Thanks for the help...I have the FCPGA Golden Orb so I don't have the AMD approved stuff...I found out that it was like Dow Corning 340 compound or something which I couldn't find any info on...so I just decided to take the gunk off and put good old silicon thermal grease...

I don't really have a good comparison but here are my results:

Before (in location 1): 27C ambient 42C cpu temp
Now (in location 2): 23C ambient 34C cpu temp

These temps were taken in the PCHealth thing in my bios on the first boot up of the day. I just let it sit in that screen for a while and it averaged around those temps...from what I see, I think using my own grease helped but again, I don't have a good comparison here cuz my hd was messed up so I just worked on cooling while I was getting it replaced...

Oh wells, now my idle temp is like 27C or something...don't remember what my idle temp was before...
 

chuonthis

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I'm using an Abit BE6-2...I think this mb is pretty good for oc'ing cuz of the SoftMenuIII but geez, it's way unstable...it's either my power supply or the motherboard that's messed up...

Let's say I set my core voltage to 1.85...it'll boot up around there...but when I run some tests and I monitor the voltage, it'll drop to about 1.81 or so sometimes. =( Anyone know a fix? Or does this happen to everyone?
 

bolomite

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I got a ThermalTake Golden Orb about a month ago, and I would have to say that the included grease/goop is the best tasting one I have ever tried.
 

Diceman

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Well i just ordered some arctic silver to replace the stock goop on the Gorb......but not because it sucks.......i think its actually pretty good........it has to be cuz: Ive been running my PIII 700e@between 980 and 945 for a few weeks now with just a stock gorb and goop.....my idle temps are aboput 27-28C and my full load temps are about 47-48C......thats not real low......but its not real high either considering im running 245+ over spec! I did make sure that i smudged the goop on real good firsat though..........im using a ASUS slotket on my ASUS P3V4X and its running at 1.75v right now at 945mhz........not bad huh?........Im gonna try to cool it more with some arctic silver on the Gorb first......if its still not cool enough for me.....ill be getting a PEP 66 kit.......but my computer is totally stable at 945......and i think thats fast enough ( well maybe a little more... ;).....Im very happy i got a GIG chip........just gotta cool it alittle better first.

but back to the Goop.......Dow Corning is a very good name.....and i can see that is performs very respactably for "included stuff".......but no "included" goop is made for serious overclocking......even the Gorb isnt made for serious overclocking.......its real purpose is to cool it better than stock and maybe mild overclocks.......and that it does very well!
 

chuonthis

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I think that might've been what was wrong with my Gorb =( When I got it, it only had this plastic cover covering the bottom of it but the goop had a little dust on it...and I tried to clean it by lightly trying to scrape it off but it didn't really work...so I was just like "Oh wells, let's just put it on!" so I did. =) If only they gave it to you in a blister pack or something...then the user could apply it the way he likes...

Now that you say that good stuff about the Dow Corning stuff, I regret taking it off =( Maybe if I just smeared it a little better or something, it would've helped...I'm considering getting some Arctic Silver too but hmm...3C for $13? =P

Oh yeah, what's the proper way to remove old grease and applying new grease? I just used QTips w/ alcohol to remove the Dow Corning goop and dried it w/ dry QTips...but I don't think that was good cuz like, it left some visible residue (maybe?) on the Gorb...

Btw, way to go with the overclock...I can only get my 650E to 904 stable (139x6.5) @ 1.95V and my temps were way too high =) So I decided to just drop back down to 866...I need to find my lowest stable voltage though...I have it @ 1.85V right now which is way too high...just left it there so it'd be stable...
 

chuonthis

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Yah! Somehow I got my cpu to 866@1.65V...I couldn't do it when I first got my cpu...could only get it @1.75v I think...I only know of 3 things that I've changed since then...

1) I enlarged the holes in the front/bottom of my Enlight 7237 to 6mm (which doesn't really help that much...airflow is still a lot better with the front cover off)...I'm planning to drill some more holes where the case fan really is but I'm afraid I'll do a sloppy job =P Any suggestions?

2) I added a back case fan...I think this might be a major factor cuz it's sucking the hot air away from the cpu cuz it's pretty close to it...

3) I took off the included Gorb stuff and put my own cheapo thermal grease...

Sorry if I'm just telling you guys useless and redundant info...hopefully it will help some people...
 

Forgiven

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All I know is that with two different duron 600's with Articsilver and the standard coolermaster HSF and a KT7 I got 1G and 1050 respectively yes I did get them to post higher but will run stable at these speeds.

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