Gold hits 25 year high, silver' up 67 per cent in the past six months

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Gold hits 25 year high
By Kevin Morrison
Published: March 30 2006 10:39 | Last updated: March 30 2006 17:52

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Gold touched a 25-year high on Thursday with traders eyeing $600 a troy ounce as the next target level for bullion as investors piled into precious metals, pushing silver to a its highest for 22 years and platinum touched a record peak.

Gold reached an intra-day peak of $586.40 a troy ounce, its highest level since January 1981 and up $13 on the late quote in New York on Wednesday, before easing back.

?The bulls have now got $600 in their sights, so we are likely to see a run at that level because there is a lot of money coming into the market,? said one London-based gold trader.

Gold prices have risen more than 13 per cent so far this year, and have endured joyed their longest bull run since bullion was freely floated in 1968, even outlasting the bull run of the late 1970s, which culminated in gold peaking at more than $850 a ounce in January 1980.

Silver hit a high of $11.50 a troy ounce, its highest level since September 1983, and up 40 cents on the day. Silver has risen 13.5 per cent since March 21 when the US Securities and Exchange Commission allowed the American Stock Exchange to change its listing rules, to pave the way for a silver-backed tracker fund to list on the exchange.

Not to be outdone, platinum struck a record high of $1,090 a troy ounce.

Base metals were also firmer. The three-month copper price hit another record high for the sixth successive day when it touched $5,430 a tonne on the London Metal Exchange, the first time it has moved through the $5,400 level. Copper prices have risen 72 per cent since the start of 2005, onamid falling stockpiles of the metal as production growth is strugglesing to keep pace with demand.

The three-month zinc price hit another record high when it touched $2,677 a tonne. Zinc prices have more than doubled since the start of last year on dwindling global stockpiles of the metal as demand exceeds supply.

Oil prices were higher. IPE Brent for May delivery added 64 cents to $65.20 a barrel in late afternoon London trade. May West Texas Intermediate easedgained 10 cents to $66.55 a barrel in late morning trade on the New York Mercantile Exchange, extending the gains from the previous session.

Global wheat demand may fall as the spread of bird flu slows consumption of poultry feed, the International Grains Council said in its latest monthly report yesterday. The world is forecast to consume 611m tonnes of wheat in the year ending June 30, 2007, a drop of 9m tonnes from the previous year, the council said.

Wheat output in the year ending June 30, will be 616.5m tonnes, 1.5m tonnes higher than previously forecast, it added.


Very interesting investment opportunities. As I posted some months ago, high energy prices and record prices in copper, gold, silver and other commodities will continue to boost emerging markets equity. The currency markets didn't react to the increased interest rates spread, so dollar is likely to depreciate, thus leveraging euro denominated holdings.

From a political point of view, these high commodity prices are likely to reflect increased geopolitical concerns. Middle-east, Nigeria and Gazprom being the most problematic issues.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: chcarnage
Is that inflation-adjusted?

How much inflation can happen in 6 months? Silver is up 66% in the last 6 months...
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This sucks, Mike Savage is going to have a cow.

This means a lot more money for the rich Republicans :(

Rich Republicans don't invest in gold or silver, they invest in high growth opportunities, not safe bets :)
 

imported_Tango

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This sucks, Mike Savage is going to have a cow.

This means a lot more money for the rich Republicans :(

Rich Republicans don't invest in gold or silver, they invest in high growth opportunities, not safe bets :)


Well, actually in my experience the commodities markets are usually hunting territory of old money. It's all about absolute return. High risk bets are of small money. That's why Hedge Funds have an entry requirement. They usually underperform in the long run (most of them), but the capacity of paying a solid and predictable, almost constant, return is very appealing for big investors.

Commodities work somewhat like that. Granted, now what we have seen in the last five years is not your average commodities market, and probably you'll soon see quite a lot of people getting out of the market.

Gold is not a safe bet. There are no safe bets in the financial markets, unless you consider somewhat riskless the US bonds. But then the returns are misarable. If you want gains, you need to face risk. The different degree of acceptable risk determines the kind of investor you are. But don't assume richer people are more willing to take risks. In my experience they are not. The most risk-prone category is young professionals with fairly high incomes but little savings. Usually willing to live larger than they could and having a lot of confidence in their long term income-generation capacities.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This sucks, Mike Savage is going to have a cow.

This means a lot more money for the rich Republicans :(

Rich Republicans don't invest in gold or silver, they invest in high growth opportunities, not safe bets :)

Bahahahaha so are you trying to say Reopublcian Mike Savage is trying to Market towards dumb liberal democrats to lose their shirts on gold??? :confused:
 

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No where close to that 850 an ounce and certainly not if not adjusted. Silver is hot though and for more reasons that merely inflation hedging.
 

Tom

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If it means anything it means people think something bad will happen, or people think people will think something bad will happen.

It doesn't mean something bad WILL happen.
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674


Bahahahaha so are you trying to say Reopublcian Mike Savage is trying to Market towards dumb liberal democrats to lose their shirts on gold??? :confused:

The main listeners of Michael Savages radio show are middle-class working adults.

And since when was Dr. Savage a republican? He's not registered as one.
 

techs

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Actually gold is not really an income earning investment for most people.
Gold is a hedge against a large drop in the value of paper currency like the dollar.
It looks like people have seen the budget deficits, the trade deficits and the long term financial outlook in this country and are betting against the dollar.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: dmcowen674


Bahahahaha so are you trying to say Reopublcian Mike Savage is trying to Market towards dumb liberal democrats to lose their shirts on gold??? :confused:

The main listeners of Michael Savages radio show are middle-class working adults.

And since when was Dr. Savage a republican? He's not registered as one.

You have to be kidding. He says how he despises Democrats daily.

How bout his book, Liberalism is a disease??? Ring a Bell?
 

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Originally posted by: Tom
If it means anything it means people think something bad will happen, or people think people will think something bad will happen.

It doesn't mean something bad WILL happen.


It depends on WHO thinks it. Market forecasting is not gambling.
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: dmcowen674


Bahahahaha so are you trying to say Reopublcian Mike Savage is trying to Market towards dumb liberal democrats to lose their shirts on gold??? :confused:

The main listeners of Michael Savages radio show are middle-class working adults.

And since when was Dr. Savage a republican? He's not registered as one.

You have to be kidding. He says how he despises Democrats daily.

How bout his book, Liberalism is a disease??? Ring a Bell?


Try listening to his show and realize how fed up he is with republicans backstabbing their members. He doesn't too much care for the big business republicans, the way Bush is handling the war, the way Bush handled the ports, etc.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: dmcowen674


Bahahahaha so are you trying to say Reopublcian Mike Savage is trying to Market towards dumb liberal democrats to lose their shirts on gold??? :confused:

The main listeners of Michael Savages radio show are middle-class working adults.

And since when was Dr. Savage a republican? He's not registered as one.

You have to be kidding. He says how he despises Democrats daily.

How bout his book, Liberalism is a disease??? Ring a Bell?

Try listening to his show and realize how fed up he is with republicans backstabbing their members. He doesn't too much care for the big business republicans, the way Bush is handling the war, the way Bush handled the ports, etc.

You buy all that crap? Bahahahahahahaa :laugh:

You and him have absolutely NO Business spouting this garbage.

You both voted for Bush.
 

imported_Tango

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: dmcowen674


Bahahahaha so are you trying to say Reopublcian Mike Savage is trying to Market towards dumb liberal democrats to lose their shirts on gold??? :confused:

The main listeners of Michael Savages radio show are middle-class working adults.

And since when was Dr. Savage a republican? He's not registered as one.

You have to be kidding. He says how he despises Democrats daily.

How bout his book, Liberalism is a disease??? Ring a Bell?


Try listening to his show and realize how fed up he is with republicans backstabbing their members. He doesn't too much care for the big business republicans, the way Bush is handling the war, the way Bush handled the ports, etc.


The fact that one can use Michael Savage and financial markets in the same sentence is puzzling to me.

In fact, the very existance of an audience for such an unrefined, gross and simplistic individual is also puzzling.
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: Tango
In fact, the very existance of an audience for such an unrefined, gross and simplistic individual is also puzzling.

Because he has the guts to preach what everyone is thinking but don't have the guts to say...even when it comes to their own party.

Is Bush going to say that terrorists are the filthiest scum on the planet and every one of them deserves to be tortured and killed? No. Is that what the average down-to-earth person is thinking in america? Yes, and Savage echoes that.
 

imported_Tango

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Tango
In fact, the very existance of an audience for such an unrefined, gross and simplistic individual is also puzzling.

Because he has the guts to preach what everyone is thinking but don't have the guts to say...even when it comes to their own party.

Is Bush going to say that terrorists are the filthiest scum on the planet and every one of them deserves to be tortured and killed? No. Is that what the average down-to-earth person is thinking in america? Yes, and Savage echoes that.


If he has guts, then it's basically the only valuable thing he has...

You are saying that people listen to him because he always says what they already think? Quite a smart move.

Stupid us, reading what the greatest minds in history have been writing, and taking lessons from the brightest individuals in academia... when instead we could just ask and listen to the average Joe.

Maybe it's just me, but I tend to think that someone should have the academic and professional credentials to be allowed to teach or spread his opinions. But maybe people nowadays are just looking for this: someone to consolidate their own beliefs, instead of rising smart, brilliant, controversial issues that could require some reasoning.

I don't like the concept of average down-to-earth people. People can be better than that. And for sure I don't lose time listening to some unrefined, childish and obtuse radio host spitting demagogic venom about issues beyond his understanding, for the pleasure of a passport-less audience.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Tango
In fact, the very existance of an audience for such an unrefined, gross and simplistic individual is also puzzling.
Because he has the guts to preach what everyone is thinking but don't have the guts to say...even when it comes to their own party.
Some quotes from your boy:

"The next time you?re in your backyard grilling hot dogs, don?t be surprised if your Korean neighbor is actually grilling his dog. That?s the way things are done in Korea.?

"You?re the ones who did it. You liberals are the descendents of Adolf Hitler, only you don?t know it. You?re the most dangerous people on planet Earth. I am your enemy. I am your worst nightmare. I will expose you. I know who you are and I know you?re suicidal and I?m going to expose you until this government acts finally to stop you. I am not kidding you. I?m telling it as it is."

He called affirmative action "The Fairness for Dummies Act"

"We need another brave Senator, like McCarthy, whom history has proven to be a loyal patriot."

"I'm beginning to think that women should be denied the vote. Their hormones rage; they are too emotional."

He advocated dealing with immigration by having the Army cordon off poor neighborhoods, then search them house to house to find all undocumented Hispanics.

He referred to Hispanics who sued a restaurant that allegedly made them wait for a table while seating whites who arrived after them as 'animals'.

He stated that Chinese immigrants keep secret weapons stashes across the country and are waiting for orders from Beijing to simultaneously get the weapons and start shooting whites. He repeated the same story the following day, speaking in the first person using a 'Charlie Chan' style Chinese accent.

He told a caller to 'take the Constitution and stuff it up your ass.'

He stated that when he used the term 'American', he was referring to conservative white Christians. Others are not Americans.

He stated that American soldiers killed in WWII 'died for nothing'.

In one of the few incidents to actually draw public attention, he described female High School student who volunteered to assist homeless people as 'fresh white nookie' and stated that they were volunteering for the 'thrill and possibility they'll be raped in a dumpster'.

He said that the 'liberal media' was covering up the fact that James Byrd, the black Texan who was murdered and then dragged behind a truck, was a coke dealer, and his murder was an attempted sale gone bad.

This isn't the only instance where this 'conservative' has endorsed or virtually endorsed violence against disfavored groups. He labeled the victims of this notorious rape and attempted murder as 'sluts' because they were kidnapped from a known make out spot that they had gone to with their boyfriends.

When a gay High School student was beaten and had the word 'i love you' carved into his stomach and arms, Savage responded, 'When a sissy in Novato gets a fat lip, the media treats it like it's World War III.'




Lovely hero you have there.
 

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My gold/silver based mutual funds are up 60% the last 12 months, 10% this week :)

The way the American economy is headed, paper worth will vanish in the next 5-10 years, better to invest in rapidly depleting commodities (oil, gold, etc..) with rising demand before the Great Depression 2 hits the US.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Tango
In fact, the very existance of an audience for such an unrefined, gross and simplistic individual is also puzzling.
Because he has the guts to preach what everyone is thinking but don't have the guts to say...even when it comes to their own party.
Some quotes from your boy:

"The next time you?re in your backyard grilling hot dogs, don?t be surprised if your Korean neighbor is actually grilling his dog. That?s the way things are done in Korea.?

"You?re the ones who did it. You liberals are the descendents of Adolf Hitler, only you don?t know it. You?re the most dangerous people on planet Earth. I am your enemy. I am your worst nightmare. I will expose you. I know who you are and I know you?re suicidal and I?m going to expose you until this government acts finally to stop you. I am not kidding you. I?m telling it as it is."

He called affirmative action "The Fairness for Dummies Act"

"We need another brave Senator, like McCarthy, whom history has proven to be a loyal patriot."

"I'm beginning to think that women should be denied the vote. Their hormones rage; they are too emotional."

He advocated dealing with immigration by having the Army cordon off poor neighborhoods, then search them house to house to find all undocumented Hispanics.

He referred to Hispanics who sued a restaurant that allegedly made them wait for a table while seating whites who arrived after them as 'animals'.

He stated that Chinese immigrants keep secret weapons stashes across the country and are waiting for orders from Beijing to simultaneously get the weapons and start shooting whites. He repeated the same story the following day, speaking in the first person using a 'Charlie Chan' style Chinese accent.

He told a caller to 'take the Constitution and stuff it up your ass.'

He stated that when he used the term 'American', he was referring to conservative white Christians. Others are not Americans.

He stated that American soldiers killed in WWII 'died for nothing'.

In one of the few incidents to actually draw public attention, he described female High School student who volunteered to assist homeless people as 'fresh white nookie' and stated that they were volunteering for the 'thrill and possibility they'll be raped in a dumpster'.

He said that the 'liberal media' was covering up the fact that James Byrd, the black Texan who was murdered and then dragged behind a truck, was a coke dealer, and his murder was an attempted sale gone bad.

This isn't the only instance where this 'conservative' has endorsed or virtually endorsed violence against disfavored groups. He labeled the victims of this notorious rape and attempted murder as 'sluts' because they were kidnapped from a known make out spot that they had gone to with their boyfriends.

When a gay High School student was beaten and had the word 'i love you' carved into his stomach and arms, Savage responded, 'When a sissy in Novato gets a fat lip, the media treats it like it's World War III.'




Lovely hero you have there.




At least he's honest, most conservatives here won't admit they chuckle at reading this stuff and scoff at anyone who doesen't "lighten up" to their bigotry we are too "PC" to be able to "handle the truth".
 

jlmadyson

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Tango
In fact, the very existance of an audience for such an unrefined, gross and simplistic individual is also puzzling.
Because he has the guts to preach what everyone is thinking but don't have the guts to say...even when it comes to their own party.
Some quotes from your boy:

"The next time you?re in your backyard grilling hot dogs, don?t be surprised if your Korean neighbor is actually grilling his dog. That?s the way things are done in Korea.?

"You?re the ones who did it. You liberals are the descendents of Adolf Hitler, only you don?t know it. You?re the most dangerous people on planet Earth. I am your enemy. I am your worst nightmare. I will expose you. I know who you are and I know you?re suicidal and I?m going to expose you until this government acts finally to stop you. I am not kidding you. I?m telling it as it is."

He called affirmative action "The Fairness for Dummies Act"

"We need another brave Senator, like McCarthy, whom history has proven to be a loyal patriot."

"I'm beginning to think that women should be denied the vote. Their hormones rage; they are too emotional."

He advocated dealing with immigration by having the Army cordon off poor neighborhoods, then search them house to house to find all undocumented Hispanics.

He referred to Hispanics who sued a restaurant that allegedly made them wait for a table while seating whites who arrived after them as 'animals'.

He stated that Chinese immigrants keep secret weapons stashes across the country and are waiting for orders from Beijing to simultaneously get the weapons and start shooting whites. He repeated the same story the following day, speaking in the first person using a 'Charlie Chan' style Chinese accent.

He told a caller to 'take the Constitution and stuff it up your ass.'

He stated that when he used the term 'American', he was referring to conservative white Christians. Others are not Americans.

He stated that American soldiers killed in WWII 'died for nothing'.

In one of the few incidents to actually draw public attention, he described female High School student who volunteered to assist homeless people as 'fresh white nookie' and stated that they were volunteering for the 'thrill and possibility they'll be raped in a dumpster'.

He said that the 'liberal media' was covering up the fact that James Byrd, the black Texan who was murdered and then dragged behind a truck, was a coke dealer, and his murder was an attempted sale gone bad.

This isn't the only instance where this 'conservative' has endorsed or virtually endorsed violence against disfavored groups. He labeled the victims of this notorious rape and attempted murder as 'sluts' because they were kidnapped from a known make out spot that they had gone to with their boyfriends.

When a gay High School student was beaten and had the word 'i love you' carved into his stomach and arms, Savage responded, 'When a sissy in Novato gets a fat lip, the media treats it like it's World War III.'




Lovely hero you have there.




At least he's honest, most conservatives here won't admit they chuckle at reading this stuff and scoff at anyone who doesen't "lighten up" to their bigotry we are too "PC" to be able to "handle the truth".

So says the guy that once said this about Condi Rice:

Aunt Jemima couldn't eat a corn on the cob through a picket fence like rice.


Ah jeez, anyhow even as a conservative I say those comments are out of line (I didn't read them all) and I stopped where women should be stripped of voting rights.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: chcarnage
Is that inflation-adjusted?
I don't believe it is but that doesn't negate the incredible rise precious metals have experienced lately. For Gold/Silver/Platinum to rise this fast, something's afoot. It's either blind speculation or "those in the know" know something that would scare the sh*t out of the rest of us.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: conjur
I don't believe it is but that doesn't negate the incredible rise precious metals have experienced lately. For Gold/Silver/Platinum to rise this fast, something's afoot. It's either blind speculation or "those in the know" know something that would scare the sh*t out of the rest of us.


I know for a fact that mass franchise democracy is not indefinately sustainable. We could be witnessing the beginnings of a few cracks in the establishment.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: jlmadyson


So says the guy that once said this about Condi Rice:

Aunt Jemima couldn't eat a corn on the cob through a picket fence like rice.


Ah jeez, anyhow even as a conservative I say those comments are out of line (I didn't read them all) and I stopped where women should be stripped of voting rights.

And? How is this racist? Sure it makes fun of her teeth, but not racist, if you pulled up the old thread it was about why calling her aunt jemima was silly, making fun of racists, sorry.

There is a good reason that idiot whinerburke was banned, he is a liar and twisted stuff to make himself look good. Even though he whined about bias he got what was coming to him hopefully he is roasting in banned hell with his silly little out of context list of quotes to try to cover his ass.