Going for Cheap PSU

[Dominato3r]

PSU - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=22536
Video card : HD4670

Will this work out? im going for a sub $200 build.

I got a 1.8ghz core 1 duo
2gb DDR2 ram
320gb samsung HDD

ive heard of logisys but i don't know what they're PSU's are like

* 4 Pin + 12V Power Connector for P4
* Complies with FCC part 15J class B 115Vac Operation and CISPR22 230Vac Operation * Meet UL 1950. CSA 22.2 Level 3 Requirement
* Over Voltage protection
* Over Power protection
* Short Circuit Protection
* 100% Hi-pot & Function (Chroma)tested
* 100&Burn-in under high Ambient Temperature(50°C)
* MTBF above 100.000 Hrsat 25°C
* Low Noise and Ripple
* Energy Star Efficiency

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

NCIX has the same rebate and about the same price. OCZ PSU

 

[Dominato3r]

its $60 so that leaves me $40 on the video card . And after reading the reviews on the logysis it doesn't seem worthy.

 

[mpilchfamily]

Get a cheap PSU only if you want to kill your nice 4870. Do not skimp on the PSU at all. If your going for a budget build then you may want to stick with a motherboard with onboard video. Atleast get a cheaper video card.

Now if i'm reading this wrong and the $200 budget is for a videocard and PSU upgrade then drop to lower end card and be sure to get a good quality PSU.

 

[Dominato3r]

Im getting a 4six70 not a 4eight70 =P

Would that be okay for a 4670? the card doesn't require additional power ( has no 6pin connector)

 

[schneiderguy]

Newegg is selling the Antec Basiq 350 watt for $20 which is probably a better PSU than the logisys. The logisys has two 80mm fans and is probably really noisy.

 

[Dominato3r]

Yea newegg has all the deals, but they're not in Canada yet =/

EDIT:

What dimesion PSY shoul i be looking for? Im using a generic HP case
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfr...07139&product=3340228&

 

[mpilchfamily]

It doesn't matter what card your getting. Cheap PSUs are not a good idea. Don't risk your hardware trying to save a few on a PSU.

 

[Zap]

Don't get a Logisys PSU. I seem to recall seeing them in one of those budget PSU roundups, and failing (or blowing up).

This particular unit only claims 25A on the +12v and much more on 3.3v and 5v, meaning it is an older design. It only has one SATA plug, no PCIe plug and only a 4 pin ATX+12v plug instead of the 8 pin that newer motherboards use. Chances are that the power output was only rated at 25ºC.

See if this link works image from SVC.com

While it is being sold as a 550W, the label lists total power as only 400W. I'd take an FSP 400W over this unit anytime.

 

[Dominato3r]

Alright. thanks guys. Ive been wonderign which PSU would fit in a HP case. ATX or micro atx?

Also any info on the quality of this PSU? http://www.tigerdirect.ca/appl...pNo=1289174&CatId=1078

 

[BlueAcolyte]

ATX probably, unless your case is tiny. Xion is also not good.

Anyway, why not this one?

OCZ 500w

 

[Dominato3r]

I would go with that one , but then i only have $60 for a video card. unless thats enough for a good one?

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Direct Canada- OCZ PSU $48.50 CAD

Direct Canada- 8800gs $58.56 CAD

Total- $107.06

 

[Dominato3r]

Thermaltake 430W 24pin w/ 6pin PCI- E $34.83
BFG GeForce 9600gt

Will this work out?

Ive decided to work out a bit more now since i want to keep my system for a bit longer +D

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: Dominato3r
Thermaltake 430W 24pin w/ 6pin PCI- E $34.83
BFG GeForce 9600gt

Will this work out?

Ive decided to work out a bit more now since i want to keep my system for a bit longer +D

I don't understand what you want. I chose much better parts that were actually cheaper. That power supply only delivers 350 watts, it's terrible. I even have one that I got for $9. The graphics card I linked is cheaper and not much slower.

 

[Dominato3r]

the 8800GS is better then the 9600gt?

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: Dominato3r
the 8800GS is better then the 9600gt?

9600GT is little faster but the 8800gs is $58.56. You said you wanted both for $100. Check out www.newegg.ca. I edited my previous post.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Dominato3r
Thermaltake 430W 24pin w/ 6pin PCI- E $34.83

Will this work out?

No. The TR430 is an old design with 18A on the +12v. It is probably a very good power supply with only 18A. However, it is only 18A. Thermaltake keeps selling it probably because it sells by the thousands... because it is cheap. However, it is insufficient for modern systems with video cards that need the PCIe power plugs.

Originally posted by: Dominato3r
the 8800GS is better then the 9600gt?

The 9600 GT is clocked higher, has more memory, has more memory bandwidth. The 8800 GS has more processor cores (stream processors, or whatever). 9600 GT is undoubtedly faster on memory, but the cores are around the same performance even though the 8800 GS is clocked lower.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Zap
No. The TR430 is an old design with 18A on the +12v. It is probably a very good power supply with only 18A. However, it is only 18A. Thermaltake keeps selling it probably because it sells by the thousands... because it is cheap. However, it is insufficient for modern systems with video cards that need the PCIe power plugs.

I use the TR430 on my C2D rigs, E2140s @ 3.2Ghz, Radeon X1950Pro, WD 320GB SATA HD, IDE DVD burner. Seems to run mostly fine, even running prime95 and ATItool.

 

[BlueAcolyte]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: Zap
No. The TR430 is an old design with 18A on the +12v. It is probably a very good power supply with only 18A. However, it is only 18A. Thermaltake keeps selling it probably because it sells by the thousands... because it is cheap. However, it is insufficient for modern systems with video cards that need the PCIe power plugs.

I use the TR430 on my C2D rigs, E2140s @ 3.2Ghz, Radeon X1950Pro, WD 320GB SATA HD, IDE DVD burner. Seems to run mostly fine, even running prime95 and ATItool.

But it only has 18A on 12v. I'm sure it actually works fine.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
I use the TR430 on my C2D rigs, E2140s @ 3.2Ghz, Radeon X1950Pro, WD 320GB SATA HD, IDE DVD burner. Seems to run mostly fine, even running prime95 and ATItool.

I was running my wife's C2D E6420 with an x1950 Pro and a Raptor drive on a Seagate 380W and it was fine, barely. Video card would howl on startup from lack of power... for about 2 seconds until the HDD finished spinning up.

Anyways, guess that it will work for the OP who's using an HD4670 that doesn't need additional PCIe power. HOWEVER, I'd still put that money towards a more "modern" design. Yes, it has all the modern plugs for 24 pin motherboards and 6 pin PCIe, but it is a really, really old design. Besides the low +12v to overall wattage ratio, the manufacturer's claimed efficiency is only 65%, which is terrible these days.

Looking at what DirectCanada has, how about the Sparkle Power SPI 350? Sparkle is FSP, which makes decent and functional units - a whole hell of a lot better than Logisys. The SPI 350 is probably the SPI350PFB2 since that's the only 350W with 120mm fan, which should make it quieter than the Tt TR2. I'm guessing it has 22A on the +12v rail (based on other FSP PSUs with similar dual rail outputs), is sufficiently +12v heavy for a modern unit and Sparkle claims "Efficiency: 80% minimum, typical up to 87%" which is really good. Of course it is 80+ certified and RoHS compliant. The best thing is that it is $10 CAD less than the Thermaltake.