Going crazy over digital cameras....

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A lot of you are going to flame me for not providing clear specifications as to my needs. But in a way that is part of what my question is. If you are willing to still read on, thanks :)

I am looking to buy my first digital camera. As something of a quality purist in all areas of life, I hate things like noise, distortion, etc. I am by no means an expert in photography, but I know some of the basics, and I am interested in learning more. (I've been working for a newspaper, so I've picked some interest up from the photo staff).

Budget is not a major issue... sort of. I am willing/able to pay quite a bit for quality. However, I obviously want to spend as little as possible, and as an amature, I'm not sure I need a super-camera.

Realistically, most of what I will be shooting will be parties, trips, etc. Casual family type use.

I was looking at the Nikon 8700 -- seems like a sweet camera. About $600, 8x optical zoom, 8MP, decent speed, etc. If anything, it was at the upper end of what I was willing to even consider.

Then I looked at dpreview.com 's ISO noise comparisons. The 8700 is a lot better than the cheaper point and shoots, but it looks absolutely HORRIBLE at even ISO 100 compared to say the dSLR Canon Rebel (about $700 w/o a lens).

I will also note that both the 8700 and the Canon Rebel are at the extreme upper end of size in terms of what I would be willing to lug around.

So here is my question: I like to buy things that last, and that will serve me for a very long time. To me, looking at sample galleries, the Canon seems to take almost "perfect" photos. The 8700 takes good/decent photos. Most cheaper cameras (with tiny CCDs) look terrible at anything but ISO 50.

SO..... should I drop around a G for something that seems "perfect" ? Or should I settle for a $200 digicam right now and wait for the technology to further improve?

Ah... Any help will be appreciated.

Cliff Notes: Are dSLR cameras the end all be all, or will $300 Point and Shoots overtake them in a year?

Edit: Im especially interested in the question about image noise at the different price ranges..
 

Platypus

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Haha you're getting an 8MP camera for your first digital?

Best advice for you, go to your local camera shop and see if they'll let you try one out if you leave something valuable for them, and just go shoot the hell out of it. If you're looking at digital SLR that's going to be pricey as hell, like you've discovered, and for what it's worth I don't think if you have minimal experience you would really be utilizing what you're paying for.
 

NTB

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All of the current 8MP cameras are going to be roughly equal in terms of noise and other sensor-dependent variables - they all use the same Sony chip, as far as I know. 8MP is overkill for most things anyway, unless you plan on printing something fairly large (certainly bigger than the 8.5 x 11 that the average home inkjet can print). Personally, I'd say split the difference - get a smaller-mp, full featured camera now, and either use the rest of the money for accessories, or save it for something better later. I just bought a Canon A80 a few months ago, and I love it. And since I don't at present plan on printing anything bigger than the previously mentioned 8.5 x 11, 4MP is plenty. And the Canon A-series have quite a bit of manual control, if that's what you're looking for.

OK, time to let somebody else rant. They probably know more than I do, anyway :)

Nate
 

toy4x4

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The ability to change the lens on the Canon Digital Rebel is for those that want to learn and take professional picture. The rest if for my wife.
 
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Anyone able to comment on the issue of noise in the image?

Thats what pisses me off most about the low-end cameras, and the higher end ones seem to control it a lot better.
 

RossMAN

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Canon PowerShot A75 would be a good choice for your first digicam.
 

Gurck

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a75 is nice, but with a higher price range why not go for the Digital Rebel? Either way, I'd stick with Canon.
 

Anubis

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get a digital point and shoot if you wanna save money, a canon will be fine, if you wanna spend alot get a Nikon D70
 

melly

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Anything that will last technology-wise? You know that there will always be something new and improved on the market...what is current today is obsolete tomorrow in the world of cameras especially. I would recommend getting one of the cameras that has the variable angle LCD monitor for advanced shooting options. Maybe start by looking for bundles such as those coming with adapters, unloading dock, extra memory sticks, printer, etc...
 

element

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The Canon 300D rebel will beat any of the other prosumer cameras in terms of noise. Only the nikon D70 comes close but for a higher price ($1200) and aded features.

If you're that concerned about noise, you really should go with the 300D or 10D if you can afford it.

Keep in mind though lenses will be extra.
 

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Originally posted by: element
Keep in mind though lenses will be extra.

And you can never have enough. I did not want to spend too much money for photo stuff but for some reason I have five lenses for my DR now.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Lars
Originally posted by: element
Keep in mind though lenses will be extra.

And you can never have enough. I did not want to spend too much money for photo stuff but for some reason I have five lenses for my DR now.

HAHA

i now have 6 :D for my D70

new one will be here on the 14th
 

element

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Lars
Originally posted by: element
Keep in mind though lenses will be extra.

And you can never have enough. I did not want to spend too much money for photo stuff but for some reason I have five lenses for my DR now.

HAHA

i now have 6 :D for my D70

new one will be here on the 14th

PWNED

hehe sometimes I think they make more money on lenses than cameras.

The good news however is that Tamron and Sigma are getting better at lens making so there is some competition there.