Going back to Tiger

[SoundTheSurrender]

Parallels/Leopard is chugging too much when I use it with Leopard. I like to develop in VB.NET and it's not running like was in Tiger. Is anyone else having issues?

 

[MovingTarget]

I wouldn't know as my mac has a G4 (which can't run parallels/Windows natively), but going back to the prev version of your OS seems a bit excessive for an issue that ultimately will be fixed if it is widespread. I'd say make a backup before you do at least if you are going to go back.

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

I'm not sure, Leopard chokes a lot as well and it's irratating. For example when I'm loading Windows in Parallels, double clicking my hard drive or scanning programs on my dock are delayed and it's just really irritating. It's just not running like how it was in Tiger. The only thing I'm really going to miss is Spaces

 

[Kmax82]

Are you running Parallels in Virtual mode, or is it pulling Windows from a Bootcamp partition? I don't notice any slowdown when I'm using it as a Virtual image on my Mac HDD.

You could try and reinstall of Leopard also? I did that on my MacBook Pro and it helped dramatically in overall performance. I had done an upgrade before hand, and it just didn't work as fluidly as I would've liked.

 

[TheStu]

Also, from my personal experiences... VMWare is working better on Leopard than Parallels.

 

[Kaido]

Yup, also having problems with Safari 3

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: Kaido
Yup, also having problems with Safari 3

Are you running any plugins? And if so, have you updated all of them?

 

[erikistired]

leopard is running like a dream on my system. i don't use parallels for much tho.

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

I'm running it as a virtual hard drive. I just tried running Fruity Loops. With Tiger I could play my music before compiling it. With Leo it's choppy and I can't hear it at all :-x

I'm gonna give VMware a try and see what happens.

 

[Dug]

vmware seems to be the best. I've never like the performance of parallels, even in Tiger.

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

Do you guys know of any guides for optimizing vista in VMware? I set it up and it seems decent so far. I think I could do a little better though. So far I removed sound, and made it the classic theme. I think I'm gonna buy a 2 gig stick of ram so I can up my Macbook to 3 Gigs since I believe that's the max it can handle since the chipset can't do four. Is it 3 gigs or 3.4 gigs?

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Do you guys know of any guides for optimizing vista in VMware? I set it up and it seems decent so far. I think I could do a little better though. So far I removed sound, and made it the classic theme. I think I'm gonna buy a 2 gig stick of ram so I can up my Macbook to 3 Gigs since I believe that's the max it can handle since the chipset can't do four. Is it 3 gigs or 3.4 gigs?

3GB i believe.

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Do you guys know of any guides for optimizing vista in VMware? I set it up and it seems decent so far. I think I could do a little better though. So far I removed sound, and made it the classic theme. I think I'm gonna buy a 2 gig stick of ram so I can up my Macbook to 3 Gigs since I believe that's the max it can handle since the chipset can't do four. Is it 3 gigs or 3.4 gigs?

If you have the very first run Core Duo MacBook Pro, then it is 2GB
The second set, the first of the Core 2 Duos, was 3GB
The most recent ones, with the 8600m GTs, is 4GB

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

http://forums.dealmac.com/read.php?4,2709202,2709202

According to this, it can take up to 3.3 Gb and I did recall reading this somewhere else for Core2Duo machines. If I can get a decent deal on 2 x 2 ram I'm gonna do that to keep it in dual channel.

So far Vista seems to be running better VMware then XP which is in Parallels. When winter vacation comes up I'm gonna switch to VMware. I might reformat Leo again just to start over with a clean slate again though.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

I am not running Parallels or such, but my iMac (white 24" 7600gt type) periodically freezes under Leopard. Skype still works while frozen but the keyboard is toast and the mouse cannot click anything whatsoever

 

[TheStu]

Shivetya, was this an Upgrade/Archive Install, or was it a Clean Install? The littlest things that worked great with Tiger have been known to completely screw over a Leopard Install. Heck, mine is doing more or less ok (I have a process that every now and again runs away with 95%+ of my processor) and I am considering a Clean Install (my external was full at the time, so no way to back up)

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: TheStu
Shivetya, was this an Upgrade/Archive Install, or was it a Clean Install? The littlest things that worked great with Tiger have been known to completely screw over a Leopard Install. Heck, mine is doing more or less ok (I have a process that every now and again runs away with 95%+ of my processor) and I am considering a Clean Install (my external was full at the time, so no way to back up)

Upgrade over Tiger.

I really really really don't want to do a clean install. Basically they don't make it simple to save off your mail and other such stuff. (like photos).

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: TheStu
Shivetya, was this an Upgrade/Archive Install, or was it a Clean Install? The littlest things that worked great with Tiger have been known to completely screw over a Leopard Install. Heck, mine is doing more or less ok (I have a process that every now and again runs away with 95%+ of my processor) and I am considering a Clean Install (my external was full at the time, so no way to back up)

Upgrade over Tiger.

I really really really don't want to do a clean install. Basically they don't make it simple to save off your mail and other such stuff. (like photos).

Well, I can understand why you wouldn't want to do a clean install, it is annoying.

If you have Time Machine set up as it is though, you can do a clean install and then just grab files from there as you need them.

However, backing-up your photos is as easy as copying your Pictures folder to another hard drive. Mail is pretty easy as well. You really only need to backup the Mail folder inside your Library. Which again, you can access easily enough if you have a Time Machine backup.

I am failing to see how that is not easy, or at least harder than Microsoft? (you said they don't make it easy... if you have nothing to compare it to, you cannot make that statement, therefore it must be not easy as compared to something easy, and since Microsoft does in fact own the home desktop market, that is the most likely candidate for what you thought was easy)

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Well I have yet to get my external WD drive setup for Time Machine. It has many copies of finance oriented data from my Windows XP box.

I figure of seeing if I can get it to partition the drive without wiping it as its a windows format and I have read TM doesn't like those

 

[Kmax82]

The problem with clean installs, for me at least, is I typically always tend to forget something. So I'll do the clean install, and realize that I missed backing up my bookmarks from Firefox, or my contacts from Address Book. Granted, I tend to back those up regularly, but I didn't do a recent backup so I'm missing stuff.

It's just too much stuff can be lost, if you don't do regular backups. Clean install is a last resort for me. However, my version of Leopard has been working great so far. Had a little mishap with CS3, but got that all worked out.

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: Kmax82
The problem with clean installs, for me at least, is I typically always tend to forget something. So I'll do the clean install, and realize that I missed backing up my bookmarks from Firefox, or my contacts from Address Book. Granted, I tend to back those up regularly, but I didn't do a recent backup so I'm missing stuff.

It's just too much stuff can be lost, if you don't do regular backups. Clean install is a last resort for me. However, my version of Leopard has been working great so far. Had a little mishap with CS3, but got that all worked out.

Absolutely, but Time Machine (if you are using it) does make like easy. Just have it do a quick, full system backup (or even better, use CCC on an empty partition) then, should you screw something up, or forget something, all the files are there. Hard drives are wicked cheap these days.

 

[Kmax82]

Yea, I need to pick up another HDD just for Time Machine. I have too many videos, mp3s, and photos to dedicate my external drive to backups. Maybe that'll be a good Christmas gift.