Going all digital download for PS4 bad idea?

[cmdrdredd]

Oh I see. Never mind then lol

At least you aren't like me with the vita. I bought Rayman Origins, Gravity Rush, Uncharted, Wipeout and they all ended up on psn+ after I had already purchased them.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

I agree that we vote with the wallet but we all can't do that. I guarantee if everyone did so, we wouldn't have caps, wouldn't have just one major isp provider in most areas.

But that's not reality and it won't get better unless other alternatives come out. With people buying games now that are 40-50gb downloads, caps will bust for a family in no time.

I for one will not buy digital games unless they are from the psn store for the free games each month. I like owning my disc and eventually having the ability to trade in when I lose interest in a title.

Yeah, my Comcast cap just kicked in at the start of this year and we have already gone over 3 times. I have a wife and 3 kids (blended family), all of whom have their own PS3. I can tell you now, 300gb goes by super fast when it is divided over 5 people...especially when you have a Netflix account as well.

 

[Imported]

After dealing with my PS4's issues with ejecting and not letting me put a disc back in 4 times in the past two weeks.. I sure wish I bought MLB The Show digitally..

 

[sze5003]

After dealing with my PS4's issues with ejecting and not letting me put a disc back in 4 times in the past two weeks.. I sure wish I bought MLB The Show digitally..

You tightened the screw to the hd case already? I would call Sony at this point and get it sent out. I really wish they would cross ship. Also try not to leave stuff on top of the ps4. I have a habit of stacking my games on there sometimes.

 

[Imported]

You tightened the screw to the hd case already? I would call Sony at this point and get it sent out. I really wish they would cross ship. Also try not to leave stuff on top of the ps4. I have a habit of stacking my games on there sometimes.

Yup. Tightened 4 times now. I'm gonna contact Sony the next time it happens. I keep the PS4 vertical so nothing gets stacked on it. Gamestop is currently offering a 50% trade-in bonus for consoles towards a new PS4/One.. Could get a new PS4 for like $40 after taxes. :hmm:

 

[sze5003]

I would go for the white destiny console. Looks nice. But either way you could trade it for another one or just get it fixed. I would hate to get a used one from game stop with that problem haha.

 

[TeknoBug]

Yup. Tightened 4 times now. I'm gonna contact Sony the next time it happens. I keep the PS4 vertical so nothing gets stacked on it. Gamestop is currently offering a 50% trade-in bonus for consoles towards a new PS4/One.. Could get a new PS4 for like $40 after taxes. :hmm:

If your unit is laying down, put it up on its side and try- or vice versa.

 

[Dave3000]

The main reason why I'm sticking to discs for consoles from now on is because I'm worried that I might exceed my data cap with U-verse. Maybe I'll buy the occasional arcade game digitally though on my PS4. I also use Netflix for most of my TV viewing and feel that I have to cut back on my Netflix viewing significantly if I'm going to continue buying games though digital distribution whether it's for PC or console. I already have 4 games digitally and 2 games on disc for my PS4. Main reason why I wanted to go all digital is because I find disc swapping annoying as I play more than one game at a time, I might want to play a certain game but there is another game in my PS4 so I have to eject that disc, put it in back in the case, take the disc of the game I want to play out of it's case, and insert the disc carefully. I'm just going to have put up with disc swapping on consoles, unless I want to get overage charges on my internet usage which I trying to avoid.

 

[Bman123]

Its hard to go digital when so many titles get released year after year. Like sports games, how fun is mlb the show 14 going to be in 2018? I have to buy disc based sports games because I only buy them every other year most of the time. I did get 2k14 and the show 14 this year but I already got rid of 2k14 for $40 and the new one comes out in October and I didn't even get madden this year because it wasn't a big enough difference in my eyes between the 360 and xbone version.

 

[TeknoBug]

The biggest problem is that the gaming industry is going more and more digital by the day not to mention getting larger and larger (BF4 35-40GB, NBA 2K14 40GB, etc), and at the same time, more and more ISPs are putting a lower bandwidth cap (or starting to actually enforce them if they already had one). And the popularity of Netflix is growing rapidly and a single movie can take about 15-20GB. I've been watching the My Name Is Earl episodes and in full HD they take quite a bit of bandwidth, but if I set the playback quality to medium I'm getting less than 1GB per episode and the quality isn't that bad (looks kind of like a regular cable channel).

I've been with the same ISP since 1998 and I have had the 250GB cap and never once reached it yet, I downloaded quite a few games on Steam after reinstalling Windows on a new HDD or so and still didn't exceed it.

But the downside that's on everybody's mind, is the trade value of games so that's why many still go buy disc copy.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I find it odd that console games are 50GB when sometimes the same game on PC isn't as large. I guess there are better compression methods for windows than consoles can use.

 

[Maverickbcp]

Like when I just downloaded the free 48 hrs of Titanfall which was a 50gb download...35gb of it foreign audio tracks. This free trial appeared the day after I got an email from my internet provider stating I had already gone over my cap for the month.

 

[Anteaus]

I find it odd that console games are 50GB when sometimes the same game on PC isn't as large. I guess there are better compression methods for windows than consoles can use.

In many cases its due to 1080P FMV. PC games tend to have lower resolution or highly compressed video and audio to reduce the digital footprint. Since console developers have 50GB to work with (double layer bluray), there is no incentive to not use every available byte. They will simple reduce compression and increase quality until they use the available space.

Some games will use in game graphics for cinematic yet encode it into FMV instead of letting the engine render in real time. This was the main reason why MGS4 didn't hit the 360. The developer said that DVD was an inefficient way to provide all that 1080P video to gamers and they didn't want to lower the resolution of the video just to fit on DVD as it wouldn't match the actual 1080P gameplay.

 

[Arkaign]

Like when I just downloaded the free 48 hrs of Titanfall which was a 50gb download...35gb of it foreign audio tracks. This free trial appeared the day after I got an email from my internet provider stating I had already gone over my cap for the month.

Yep. That was absolute laziness in the worst possible way, and horribly wasteful and stupid. Tons of their target market (PC gamers with rigs decent enough to run Titanfall and other FPS games at a good speed) uses SSDs for their gaming systems, often 128 or 256GB models. 35gb of audio is retarded beyond belief.

Easy solution would just be to have Origin manage the download of the selected audio tracks in an optional manner, and download the default language data specific to your region automatically the first time. Boom, 50GB turns into 20GB.

Devs are notorious for just using whatever space the media has, and in this case they aimed squarely at the BD disc limit apparently.

 

[KentState]

Until consoles offer heavily discounted games through the online stores, I will stick with disks. For example, Steam can sell Wolfenstein for $30 during a sale and the PS4 disk will be on sale in a few months. The PS4 Store version will remain full price for a very long time.

 

[mmntech]

Until consoles offer heavily discounted games through the online stores, I will stick with disks. For example, Steam can sell Wolfenstein for $30 during a sale and the PS4 disk will be on sale in a few months. The PS4 Store version will remain full price for a very long time.

Nintendo is notorious for this. However, they do it with retail games as well. The whole point of digital was that it was going to be cheaper, since it cut out the middle man. That's what happens with monopolies though. Savings never get passed on to the customer.

 

[cmdrdredd]

This may change if retailers ever start selling the download codes from PSN and XBL.

 

[KentState]

This may change if retailers ever start selling the download codes from PSN and XBL.

I look forward to that.

 

[Sattern]

Even though I prefer having the box and game disk, the world is changing and migrating to the digital age. It's something that was bound to come,it has its added benefits like not being able to lose the disk and also being able to immediately access what you purchase without waiting in those long lines on release day.

 

[toughtrasher]

Say the digital retailers start selling downloads on PS4 for around $10-$20 cheaper a couple weeks in, would you guys be more interested in physical copies still or move on to digital?

Just wondering.

 

[zerocool84]

Say the digital retailers start selling downloads on PS4 for around $10-$20 cheaper a couple weeks in, would you guys be more interested in physical copies still or move on to digital?

Just wondering.

I'd go digital for most stuff if it was cheaper right off the bat.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I'd go digital for most stuff if it was cheaper right off the bat.

Probably would be inclined to do this as well. There would be no incentive to have the disk for the trade-in any longer since the value would have been the same overall.

 

[sze5003]

Yea if I could get a brand new game for $40 instead of $66 with tax I might be inclined. But there's times I took advantage of trade in values like for killzone and cod ghosts and then I spent less on 2 new games.

 

[sxr7171]

Say the digital retailers start selling downloads on PS4 for around $10-$20 cheaper a couple weeks in, would you guys be more interested in physical copies still or move on to digital?

Just wondering.

Which ever is cheaper but I greatly prefer the convenience of digital. I'll even wait for a digital price drop over going to the store where I know it's cheaper. It will never happen that the first price drops are on digital because they have to help stores move physical inventory. So stores will get the first price drops.

Even in a 1st world country like the US they cannot yet go full digital as much as they'd like to because there are areas with still slow internet/satellite internet.

But they will try. I think with both consoles having 500GB this generation of consoles is fully capable of going all digital. They may try to offer incentives with the purchase of a card that once purchased at a register provides registration and download of that game. They will try to wean people off the disc.