God damn Semi-trucks with snow on their roof... Cousin got in an accident

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Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: Number1
You people must be getting snow once a year or something. Here in Canada we get the snow off the windshield and side windows and we drive.

Tractor trailers should clean the snow off their cargo box, I agree but for cars?

Give me a break.


edit spelling.

Don't be an idiot.
 

Pepsi90919

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Think how many times you've heard of someone falling off their house while shoveling snow off their roof. Frequent story? No. A few each year? Yes. How many people shovel their roof each time it snows? Not very many.
OK, I'm not driving my house down the highway at over 100 km/h.
 

McCarthy

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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
invention time

big car wash type affair at the depot. like a bridge type structure loaded with big fans that blow hot air across the bridge and the parpets, then it just moves down the length of the truck melting the ice and snow off the truck

it could employ pressure washers that use a de-icer mix, or hot water to blast stubborn chunks off.

I do so love inventions. More ideas?
There are drawbacks to this, but let's concentrate on the positives and improve on it.

One way to improve on the efficiency of your concept would be to use a big plastic brush - similar to what drive through car washes use, but much stiffer - to remove snow and loose ice before the melting.

My invention suggestion would be something quite simple, but would need to be tested to see how much it damaged the trailer roof. I'd use what's been learned from road graders and apply it.

Leading edge would be as such :
http://www.kennametal.com/images/it/amsg/scarfire1.jpg

But, like a safety razor it would have a lubrication layer. This blade would be flat and ride along as a depth guide.

http://www.kennametal.com/images/it/amsg/dual_carbide_blade.jpg

The second image would be the back part - used to keep the teeth of the first from getting to the metal skin of the trailer. The trucker would simply drive under the contraption (with wheels to guide it into place) and drive through - driving forward would power it.

Make it a coin-op affair, unattended. Truck stops would profit from having them so they'd become widespread. No, it wouldn't get every little bit, but with tuning it could get down to say 1/2" of ice, and that thickness would now be broken up instead of in sheets. Still annoying when they fly off and might break a windshield here or there, but harmless to drivers.


 

McCarthy

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Think how many times you've heard of someone falling off their house while shoveling snow off their roof. Frequent story? No. A few each year? Yes. How many people shovel their roof each time it snows? Not very many.
OK, I'm not driving my house down the highway at over 100 km/h.

That wasn't the comparison.

 
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Originally posted by: McCarthy
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
invention time

big car wash type affair at the depot. like a bridge type structure loaded with big fans that blow hot air across the bridge and the parpets, then it just moves down the length of the truck melting the ice and snow off the truck

it could employ pressure washers that use a de-icer mix, or hot water to blast stubborn chunks off.

I do so love inventions. More ideas?
There are drawbacks to this, but let's concentrate on the positives and improve on it.

One way to improve on the efficiency of your concept would be to use a big plastic brush - similar to what drive through car washes use, but much stiffer - to remove snow and loose ice before the melting.

My invention suggestion would be something quite simple, but would need to be tested to see how much it damaged the trailer roof. I'd use what's been learned from road graders and apply it.

Leading edge would be as such :
http://www.kennametal.com/images/it/amsg/scarfire1.jpg

But, like a safety razor it would have a lubrication layer. This blade would be flat and ride along as a depth guide.

http://www.kennametal.com/images/it/amsg/dual_carbide_blade.jpg

The second image would be the back part - used to keep the teeth of the first from getting to the metal skin of the trailer. The trucker would simply drive under the contraption (with wheels to guide it into place) and drive through - driving forward would power it.

Make it a coin-op affair, unattended. Truck stops would profit from having them so they'd become widespread. No, it wouldn't get every little bit, but with tuning it could get down to say 1/2" of ice, and that thickness would now be broken up instead of in sheets. Still annoying when they fly off and might break a windshield here or there, but harmless to drivers.


good stuff, i wonder if you could use some kind of ice breaker like design, like those ships, a fairly blunt edge that rides up onto the ice, then splits it by applying pressure, might deform the trailers frame work though.

perhaps you could have a means of applying a coating or liquid to the trailer that stops the ice bonding with surfaces, allowing it to simply brush off.

there is a program here called dragons den. (aspiring inventors and entrepeneures turn up and propose their ideas and business plans to the rich bastard dragons in the hope for funding)

one guy, actually designed and built a a HGV wash, coin operated, unattended, and he'd already got some installed at service stations. he needed more cash tho to fulfil orders.

now his was just a truck washer, automated truck washer. companies like eddie stobart haulage always like to have their trucks appear immaculate especially on arrival, it gives a great impression. he won their minds and their money.

i bet his idea could be easily adapted.
 

Suture

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Originally posted by: VirginiaDonkey
"But he should know that he had 10 inches of snow on his roof."

and that's his fault how?


Do you clean all the snow off your car before you drive?......... Didn't think so!

I know I do. It pisses me off when people are too lazy to be considerate to others and have snow and ice flying off their cars.
 

Lumathix

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Originally posted by: VirginiaDonkey
"But he should know that he had 10 inches of snow on his roof."

and that's his fault how?


Do you clean all the snow off your car before you drive?......... Didn't think so!

Sorry.
When I lived up north, I cleaned the ice and snow off my car. I would certainly clean it off my semi, especially considering it would be my JOB to do so.
 

iamwiz82

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I have seen lots of things fly off semi trailers, including a hammer once, but I've never had a problem with hitting their stuff because I follow at a reasonable distance.
 

rh71

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I garage my car so I don't have to worry much about it - the only time I've come across a situation like that is when I see a large amount of snow on the car I'm following and common sense tells me to just change lanes... but in your cousin's case, that still didn't help. She was extremely fortunate it only hit the passenger side.
 

Kelemvor

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: Number1
You people must be getting snow once a year or something. Here in Canada we get the snow off the windshield and side windows and we drive.

Tractor trailers should clean the snow off their cargo box, I agree but for cars?

Give me a break.


edit spelling.

Don't be an idiot.

Did you read the thread? Way too late for that to happen.

OP, glad your cousin is OK. I'd think maybe the truck driver could get a ticket for driving a vehicle that wasn't safe or something like that but I don't know of any law specifically about that.

And having light, fluffy snow on top of your car is totally different than having chunks of ice on top of your car. I'd been hit on my windshield from things like this before (on am uch smaller scale) and luckily never had anything bad happen.
 
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This thread has been tagged for Ownage of the Year 2007!
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+1 for the ownage of VirginiaDonkey, also +1 to Number1 being a moron.

I'm Canadian, and I clear my car completely. Sounds like Number1 is what we refer to as the Great Canadian Snow Beaver ... leaned over, gnawing on the steering wheel, trying to see out of the 3x4" square hole they scraped in the frost. And yes, the police love to nail you for that, since it's a nice fat fine and they get to make you scrape the car right there at the side of the road as a public display of your stupidity. :D

- M4H
 

VirginiaDonkey

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If you are following close enough to get hit by a sheet of ice coming off a car then you are................................TAILGATING ..........................and that makes it your fault!

me getting owned?....I don't know about that

looks like a bunch of " I clean off my car all the time" because in this thread it sounds like the right thing to do (hypocrites)

 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: VirginiaDonkey
If you are following close enough to get hit by a sheet of ice coming off a car then you are................................TAILGATING ..........................and that makes it your fault!

um...no
 
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Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: Number1
I drive my car with snow on it all the time. I never killed anybody.

You guys make it sound like it's worst then driving drunk.

Please, get off your soap boxes.

what are you smoking? those things crash into windshields like concrete slabs at those speeds.

and it's not always that this happens and it's not just "snow", it's ice. when you have that fluffy stuff for a few days or so on your vehicle's roof and THEN it solidifies. add a little sun to the mix and there's enough melting to make that stuff break off in slabs of ice.

Well unless ice has wings and it's own source of power and can take flight If you get hit by it YOU ARE FOLLOWING TO CLOSELY. If there is ICE on a truck or car roof it's a fair assumption that the roads aren't in ideal driving conditions. Woah personal responsibilit. Who would have ever thought of that in America?
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: Number1
I drive my car with snow on it all the time. I never killed anybody.

You guys make it sound like it's worst then driving drunk.

Please, get off your soap boxes.

what are you smoking? those things crash into windshields like concrete slabs at those speeds.

and it's not always that this happens and it's not just "snow", it's ice. when you have that fluffy stuff for a few days or so on your vehicle's roof and THEN it solidifies. add a little sun to the mix and there's enough melting to make that stuff break off in slabs of ice.

Well unless ice has wings and it's own source of power and can take flight If you get hit by it YOU ARE FOLLOWING TO CLOSELY. If there is ICE on a truck or car roof it's a fair assumption that the roads aren't in ideal driving conditions. Woah personal responsibilit. Who would have ever thought of that in America?

Ah-hem.

Apparently she was driving to school this morning to substitute, driving in the left lane with a semi-truck in the right lane a little bit ahead of her. A huge piece of ice flew off the roof of the truck and went right through her windshield.
 
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Originally posted by: VirginiaDonkey
If you are following close enough to get hit by a sheet of ice coming off a car then you are................................TAILGATING ..........................and that makes it your fault!

me getting owned?....I don't know about that

looks like a bunch of " I clean off my car all the time" because in this thread it sounds like the right thing to do (hypocrites)

I inclined to side with the Donkey. Every time something comes up on here, everyone turns in the perfect person and always "does the right thing" Based on observation from driving in these conditions, more people than not don't clean their cars off of snow and ice, but apparently 99% of ATOT does which screams that some ATOTers are lying because they want to have good internet cred. It's just like no one on ATOT has ever or will ever drive drunk.
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: VirginiaDonkey
If you are following close enough to get hit by a sheet of ice coming off a car then you are................................TAILGATING ..........................and that makes it your fault!

me getting owned?....I don't know about that

looks like a bunch of " I clean off my car all the time" because in this thread it sounds like the right thing to do (hypocrites)

Gotta love people who can't read. She was in a different lane.

Clean off your car foo! Mr.T don't wanna hear yo jibba jabba
 
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: Number1
I drive my car with snow on it all the time. I never killed anybody.

You guys make it sound like it's worst then driving drunk.

Please, get off your soap boxes.

what are you smoking? those things crash into windshields like concrete slabs at those speeds.

and it's not always that this happens and it's not just "snow", it's ice. when you have that fluffy stuff for a few days or so on your vehicle's roof and THEN it solidifies. add a little sun to the mix and there's enough melting to make that stuff break off in slabs of ice.

Well unless ice has wings and it's own source of power and can take flight If you get hit by it YOU ARE FOLLOWING TO CLOSELY. If there is ICE on a truck or car roof it's a fair assumption that the roads aren't in ideal driving conditions. Woah personal responsibilit. Who would have ever thought of that in America?

Ah-hem.

Apparently she was driving to school this morning to substitute, driving in the left lane with a semi-truck in the right lane a little bit ahead of her. A huge piece of ice flew off the roof of the truck and went right through her windshield.

Ah-hem there's more than one side of every story, and the one side you here never contains all the facts, especially when the person reporting it is not the person that was there.
 
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Originally posted by: VirginiaDonkey
If you are following close enough to get hit by a sheet of ice coming off a car then you are................................TAILGATING ..........................and that makes it your fault!

me getting owned?....I don't know about that

looks like a bunch of " I clean off my car all the time" because in this thread it sounds like the right thing to do (hypocrites)

WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

on all three counts.

- M4H
 
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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: VirginiaDonkey
If you are following close enough to get hit by a sheet of ice coming off a car then you are................................TAILGATING ..........................and that makes it your fault!

me getting owned?....I don't know about that

looks like a bunch of " I clean off my car all the time" because in this thread it sounds like the right thing to do (hypocrites)

I inclined to side with the Donkey. Every time something comes up on here, everyone turns in the perfect person and always "does the right thing" Based on observation from driving in these conditions, more people than not don't clean their cars off of snow and ice, but apparently 99% of ATOT does which screams that some ATOTers are lying because they want to have good internet cred. It's just like no one on ATOT has ever or will ever drive drunk.

No, it's just that those of us who aren't that ****** stupid choose to speak up when we're being pigeonholed as such.

- M4H
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: VirginiaDonkey
If you are following close enough to get hit by a sheet of ice coming off a car then you are................................TAILGATING ..........................and that makes it your fault!

me getting owned?....I don't know about that

looks like a bunch of " I clean off my car all the time" because in this thread it sounds like the right thing to do (hypocrites)

1) SHE WAS IN A DIFFERENT LANE, SO TAILGATING IS NOT EVEN A FACTOR
2) It is the law to clean off your vehicle of snow in a number of states.

You have no leg to stand on in this discussion.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: VirginiaDonkey
If you are following close enough to get hit by a sheet of ice coming off a car then you are................................TAILGATING ..........................and that makes it your fault!

me getting owned?....I don't know about that

looks like a bunch of " I clean off my car all the time" because in this thread it sounds like the right thing to do (hypocrites)

1) SHE WAS IN A DIFFERENT LANE, SO TAILGATING IS NOT EVEN A FACTOR
2) It is the law to clean off your vehicle of snow in a number of states.

You have no leg to stand on in this discussion.

Apparently the OP is lying according to Lebowski:
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: BigJ

Ah-hem.

Apparently she was driving to school this morning to substitute, driving in the left lane with a semi-truck in the right lane a little bit ahead of her. A huge piece of ice flew off the roof of the truck and went right through her windshield.

Ah-hem there's more than one side of every story, and the one side you here never contains all the facts, especially when the person reporting it is not the person that was there.