GOD DAMN IT! Help me keep my sanity! BSODs!

GimpyFuzznut

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Ok, unfortunately I would just return this freakin' board to the crap hole in Taiwan it came from but 15 day exchange at the local shop is up so for now, at least until exams are out of the way, I'm stuck with this board. If I really can't get it going, I will sell it and get something else.

Anyhow, this is my setup;
E4300
2x1024 DDR-1066 5-5-5-9 Patriot Memory (D9 I believe - yes overkill but I got a deal on it)
Gigabyte DS3 with F9,F10,F11a
Nice cooling in Antec P180 + Scythe Infinity (Temperatures aren't really a problem)
1 SATA HD on Purple Connector in IDE MODE
1 IDE DVD-Burner

Now, let's get to the point. I'm going to put all the overclocking performance issues aside. I have been able to get this board to boot at all types of settings which were seemingly stable. They worked and seemed OK but for whatever setting I used, I would get BSOD. The strange thing is - MemTEST would be stable for several hours without any problems. Orthos would run stable for like 10 hours and then, just browsing in Windows - BAM BSOD.

So I can't find out what is making my system unstable. I bumped everything back down to stock. I have the E4300 at stock. DDR at 200 MHZ! A tiny increase on CPU voltage and 0.5V on the DDR (the memory runs at 2.3). The other voltages are stock. PCIE frequency at 100. So that is everything at normal settings. Temperatures are fine and don't reach more than 55C on these settings. I ran Memtest on these settings all night for approximately 12 hours and didn't get a thing.

So, WHY THE HELL do I get BSODs in Windows? Last night I got a PFN error and today I got 2 IRQL errors. These are generally memory related right? So why is my memory perfectly stable at stock (or even at OCd settings) and I'm getting memory errors? Could this be because of another driver/software issue? Should I try to reformat and install all drivers clean? I tried to go back to F10 bios. I still had a crash after that. Could maybe changing the hard drive to the Intel ports affect anything?

What the hell is going on here? If I can run Memtest fine doesn't that mean the memory should be OK and that's not what's causing problems? But every time something goes wrong its symptomatic of memory problems - programs crashing, strange application errors, BSODs.

What do I do? Change the memory? Change the motherboard? I can't really do either right now because I need my PC up - I can buy a new motherboard and just try to sell this one off. I freakin' hate my DS3 :( ! Check my post history and you'll see 1000000 millions nobody should ever buy Gigacrap.
 

GimpyFuzznut

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Running 2 copies of MemTest for Windows to see if that causes problems.



It didn't come up with anything and I haven't yet crashed today. I have a feeling it will come sooner or later though.
 

Conky

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Try putting your RAM in the other channel slots and seeing how that works. I once worked on an ASUS board that had that issue... one channel seemingly worked but would cause occasional errors, the other channel was perfect... go figure.

If you still have issues I would tend to blame the RAM since, as you indicated, your issues seem to be RAM related. It might not be a motherboard issue. ;)
 

GimpyFuzznut

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Corsair 620. Forgot to mention that.

Ya - I think it could be the RAM acting up. I had OCZ memory in there before which was seemingly working fine - much more stable I think. I think I might switch to another set of RAM - not sure. I'll try swapping channels and see if that helps. So far, I haven't crashed again today and I haven't seen any memory errors yet but I'm sure its going to happen sooner or later. This is definitely a strange one that points to the memory. Despite Memtest boot passing and Memtest in Windows passing, all these problems are RAM related. The different STOP messages are all possibly due to faulty RAM according to MS especially the PFN page file thing.

This happened last night running at stock - I was running SuperPI and it crashed with a memory fault. Then ALL types of background apps and other programs just started dropping like flies with memory errors. I immediately tried to shutdown and then even then, Windows started to act strange and wouldn't let me shutdown. So I hit the restart switch and booted the Memtest CD that was in the drive already. BAM! Errors came up in 3 seconds - literraly hundreds of errors right away. So I shutdown the computer and then it wouldn't restart - it did the stupid DS3 thing of powering on/off on/off on/off continually until it finally booted. I went back in the BIOS and set things exactly how they were when it crashed. Booted up Memtest and it worked fine all night for 12+ hours. So... what the hell? Its the memory?



O and the memory is rated at 2.3V. Would giving it 2.4 potentially make it more stable or is it not safe?