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God damn gas stations

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jeez, i just payed 3.07 for gas up here in northern virginia... man... i am going to trade in my car and get a moped and drive that to work!!!
 
Originally posted by: RCN
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Don't blame it on gas stations blame it on a government that is in the pocket of the oil lobby.
The government doesn't set oil prices. The market sets the oil prices.

And give tax subsidies to Oil companies making record profits, you aren't that clueless are you?
No, but apparently you are if you think profits are only made by companies through the sale of gasoline at the pump. And apparently you are even more clueless by not knowing the difference between profit and profit margin (hint: the oil companies profit margin actually went down). And let's not even get started on how clueless you are about not knowing that corporations don't pay taxes, they just pass the cost of taxes on to the consumer.
Proof that margins went down? Margins were up 30% in 2004.
BP Gas station owner in Colorado ?We?re making some of the smallest profit margins we?ve ever made,?

Does everyone here believe him? Raise your hand

I believe him. My partners gas station is at $2.87. He bought the gas yesterday at $2.87. Not much profit there. Then he takes a loss after all the credit card users.
Oh come on. Then all Gas stations in the Country should go out of business.
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Don't blame it on gas stations blame it on a government that is in the pocket of the oil lobby.

The government doesn't set oil prices. The market sets the oil prices.


He's just pissed that the government hasn't become a dictatorship and set oil prices themselves.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: RCN
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Don't blame it on gas stations blame it on a government that is in the pocket of the oil lobby.
The government doesn't set oil prices. The market sets the oil prices.

And give tax subsidies to Oil companies making record profits, you aren't that clueless are you?
No, but apparently you are if you think profits are only made by companies through the sale of gasoline at the pump. And apparently you are even more clueless by not knowing the difference between profit and profit margin (hint: the oil companies profit margin actually went down). And let's not even get started on how clueless you are about not knowing that corporations don't pay taxes, they just pass the cost of taxes on to the consumer.
Proof that margins went down? Margins were up 30% in 2004.
BP Gas station owner in Colorado ?We?re making some of the smallest profit margins we?ve ever made,?

Does everyone here believe him? Raise your hand

I believe him. My partners gas station is at $2.87. He bought the gas yesterday at $2.87. Not much profit there. Then he takes a loss after all the credit card users.
Oh come on. Then all Gas stations in the Country should go out of business.

There was an article in the Houston Chronicle two days ago about a gas station that has stopped selling gas because there is no profit in it right now. I believe another member posted a similar article also a couple days ago.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: RCN
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Don't blame it on gas stations blame it on a government that is in the pocket of the oil lobby.
The government doesn't set oil prices. The market sets the oil prices.

And give tax subsidies to Oil companies making record profits, you aren't that clueless are you?
No, but apparently you are if you think profits are only made by companies through the sale of gasoline at the pump. And apparently you are even more clueless by not knowing the difference between profit and profit margin (hint: the oil companies profit margin actually went down). And let's not even get started on how clueless you are about not knowing that corporations don't pay taxes, they just pass the cost of taxes on to the consumer.
Proof that margins went down? Margins were up 30% in 2004.
BP Gas station owner in Colorado ?We?re making some of the smallest profit margins we?ve ever made,?

Does everyone here believe him? Raise your hand

I believe him. My partners gas station is at $2.87. He bought the gas yesterday at $2.87. Not much profit there. Then he takes a loss after all the credit card users.
Oh come on. Then all Gas stations in the Country should go out of business.

Most don't rely on gas. When is the last time you saw just a gas station?

Most sell gas at cost or just above. Sometimes below cost for competition. When credit cards enter the picture transaction fees and processing percentages eat into what little profit there is.

He makes money selling cigs, beer, sodas and other crap but definately not on gas......

may be different for large chains......
 
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: RCN
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Don't blame it on gas stations blame it on a government that is in the pocket of the oil lobby.
The government doesn't set oil prices. The market sets the oil prices.

And give tax subsidies to Oil companies making record profits, you aren't that clueless are you?
No, but apparently you are if you think profits are only made by companies through the sale of gasoline at the pump. And apparently you are even more clueless by not knowing the difference between profit and profit margin (hint: the oil companies profit margin actually went down). And let's not even get started on how clueless you are about not knowing that corporations don't pay taxes, they just pass the cost of taxes on to the consumer.
Proof that margins went down? Margins were up 30% in 2004.
BP Gas station owner in Colorado ?We?re making some of the smallest profit margins we?ve ever made,?

Does everyone here believe him? Raise your hand

I believe him. My partners gas station is at $2.87. He bought the gas yesterday at $2.87. Not much profit there. Then he takes a loss after all the credit card users.
Oh come on. Then all Gas stations in the Country should go out of business.
There was an article in the Houston Chronicle two days ago about a gas station that has stopped selling gas because there is no profit in it right now.
Good, all stations should stop selling gas immediately.
 
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Regs
Why can't we all agree to switch to ethanol?

Cause then we'd just end up with a major corn shortage.

Corn ethanol is pointless because it takes something like .75 gal of fossil fuel energy to make 1 gal of ethanol. We'd need crazy amounts of hydro or nuclear energy to support corn ethanol. IMHO the corn ethanol ads all over TV now are just the corn farmers shitting themselves over the recent reports on how efficient switchgrass ethanol is.
Agreed The only ones who are going to make money on corn based ethanol are Cragill and Archer Daniel Midland. They hold the Genetic Patents on the corn that will be used to make that stuff. The reason BRAZIL made the ethanol switch work is because they used their sugar cane, unmodified and MUCH easier to grow and harvest. Which they do with ethanol powered farm machinery.
They integrated it vertically, throughout the entire production chain.

 
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Don't blame it on gas stations blame it on a government that is in the pocket of the oil lobby.

Don't blame it on anyone.

If you think the prices are too high, then simply stop buying.
 
Originally posted by: RCN
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: RCN
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Don't blame it on gas stations blame it on a government that is in the pocket of the oil lobby.
The government doesn't set oil prices. The market sets the oil prices.

And give tax subsidies to Oil companies making record profits, you aren't that clueless are you?
No, but apparently you are if you think profits are only made by companies through the sale of gasoline at the pump. And apparently you are even more clueless by not knowing the difference between profit and profit margin (hint: the oil companies profit margin actually went down). And let's not even get started on how clueless you are about not knowing that corporations don't pay taxes, they just pass the cost of taxes on to the consumer.
Proof that margins went down? Margins were up 30% in 2004.
BP Gas station owner in Colorado ?We?re making some of the smallest profit margins we?ve ever made,?

Does everyone here believe him? Raise your hand

I believe him. My partners gas station is at $2.87. He bought the gas yesterday at $2.87. Not much profit there. Then he takes a loss after all the credit card users.
Oh come on. Then all Gas stations in the Country should go out of business.

Most don't rely on gas. When is the last time you saw just a gas station?

Most sell gas at cost or just above. Sometimes below cost for competition. When credit cards enter the picture transaction fees and processing percentages eat into what little profit there is.

He makes money selling cigs, beer, sodas and other crap but definately not on gas......

may be different for large chains......

That is true but not for all gas stations.

Local/Private gas stations (stations that are not name brand) are in trouble these days (infact, they have been for the past 3-4 months). This is b/c the Big gas companies have raised prices of gas. Most of the private gas stations are only making few pennies and many others are even selling at cost.

What the Big companies are doing is that they give cash back incentive to their own branded gas stations. This has eventually put the private gas stations in a tight situation (if they increase the gas price, ppl wont purchase from them and on the other hand, they are hardly making any $$).

I cannot disclose the exact profit margins that the gas stations are making on gas (b/c I would be breaking the non-disclosure agreements).

The gas station industry has changed in the last year. In either case, it is the oil companies that are making the most profits.
 
1st car and i never realize why people where angry about gas prices. I got about 3ish gallons for $8.00 and now my tank is near empty. My bank card is acting up which carries my last bit of gas money.. so i think ill stay in tomarrow from class.

car is a v8 mustang, but it takes reg. gas. ;]
 
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