I do over 1000 miles a week, every week.
450 is nothing.
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God damn car dealerships...
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450 is nothing.
Black88GTA
Diamond Member
Cat Converter for 96 Taurus = $127 and change 😀
A clogged cat can significantly decrease your fuel mileage and performance, plus it's generally an easy job to do. With all the driving you do, it might not be a bad idea to replace it - especially since it'll probably pay for itself in gas savings if you keep that car much longer.
Tec699, the problems with your "old" car seem to be due more to neglect and lack of maintenance than the car itself. If a car (any car) isn't maintained, it will fall apart. Back banged up = your fault. Check engine light = there for a reason. Something is triggering it. You can probably take it to an auto parts store (advance, Autozone, etc) and they'll scan it for free, and tell you what's setting it off.
Also, why would you want to go upside down on a new car, when you can't afford payments on the one you have? Has Ameridebt taught you nothing? 😉
Hell, the newest car I've ever owned is a '92 Mustang, and that car runs great. My 88 Trans Am also runs perfectly. 97 is NOT old. Best of all, both of them are paid off. Having no car payment is nice.
"Cat Converter for 96 Taurus = $127 and change
A clogged cat can significantly decrease your fuel mileage and performance, plus it's generally an easy job to do. With all the driving you do, it might not be a bad idea to replace it - especially since it'll probably pay for itself in gas savings if you keep that car much longer."
Yeah, I know. But I'm still averaging over 25 mpg, so I'm not worried. I was told the cat on that car is actually part of an assembly that includes two cat. converters. My cousin, an experienced mechanic, told me that his garage always installed OEM cats because they had so many problems with aftermarket cats. Hence the greater cost. Plus I replaced one of the cats about a year ago with an aftermarket part and it's already starting to go bad 🙁 .
A clogged cat can significantly decrease your fuel mileage and performance, plus it's generally an easy job to do. With all the driving you do, it might not be a bad idea to replace it - especially since it'll probably pay for itself in gas savings if you keep that car much longer."
Yeah, I know. But I'm still averaging over 25 mpg, so I'm not worried. I was told the cat on that car is actually part of an assembly that includes two cat. converters. My cousin, an experienced mechanic, told me that his garage always installed OEM cats because they had so many problems with aftermarket cats. Hence the greater cost. Plus I replaced one of the cats about a year ago with an aftermarket part and it's already starting to go bad 🙁 .
Ketteringo
Banned
I have to agree, sorry. You obviously have financial problems, and dont know how to take care of a car. You should not even be looking at a brand new $20,000 car. IMHO you were incredibly lucky to get your car back at all, you signed the papers and gave them a down payment without reading through everything.
Next time you go car shopping (hopefully for a nice used Honda that's $5-8k) take your dad or someone who knows about cars, so you dont get screwed by your own ignorance.
Deeko
Lifer
When I bought my car 2 weeks ago, it was a used car, but from a new car dealership. The car was at a great price($7000 - edmunds rates it at $8600). My saleswoman was trying to nail me with the loan...she pulled the whole "go back to talk to the manager" bit, she gave me an estimated payment without even running credit...kept saying things like "great news!" after she came back from talking...she seemed very disheartened when i told her I was getting a loan through my credit union. In the end, her payment was almost twice as high as I ended up getting from the CU, and she was assuming a $1700 deposit! Sorry, not scamming my ass any time soon.
RossMAN
Grand Nagus
We never went through when I bought our 2002 Honda Accord SE as a loss leader.
1) It was a loss leader, they only have a certain number of pre-configured cars at a below invoice price. They had 7 total, we were #6 to check out the Accord SE's. The VIN # matched with the ad so we were in luck. Paying $17,244 for a brand new car which invoices for $19,500 made my day.
2) Financing was approved (albeit at a high 8.50% rate but what the hey). One year of on time payments, re-financed with a local credit union for 4.75%.
3) Car dealers always screw you on the trade in. We sold our 94 Toyota Corolla through the newspaper classifieds, we got a lot more than a dealership would have offered.
Our next car will probably be purchased through our credit union's auto buying service or CostCo auto sales.
1) It was a loss leader, they only have a certain number of pre-configured cars at a below invoice price. They had 7 total, we were #6 to check out the Accord SE's. The VIN # matched with the ad so we were in luck. Paying $17,244 for a brand new car which invoices for $19,500 made my day.
2) Financing was approved (albeit at a high 8.50% rate but what the hey). One year of on time payments, re-financed with a local credit union for 4.75%.
3) Car dealers always screw you on the trade in. We sold our 94 Toyota Corolla through the newspaper classifieds, we got a lot more than a dealership would have offered.
Our next car will probably be purchased through our credit union's auto buying service or CostCo auto sales.
ThisIsMatt
Banned
Yeah, I'm a fat slob, but my car is pristine! 😉 Actually I'm in pretty good shape and my car is old, but I'm not kicking it to the curb. I drive 250+ miles every week, plus whatever I drive on the weekends. A winter ago I drove my car 1500 miles, only stopping for food and gas, then drove the 1500 miles back home. So what's your point? 😉 Maybe you should have your check engine light issue figured out, and fix your door. The door can't be that hard, and if you think 120k miles is the lifetime of a decent car, then yes, you're prime bait for any dealership's bullsh!t sales department.
Yeah, but if you remember one rule remember that one... watch how much the price drops when you go to walk out the door.
I got $5000 knocked off the sticker price of the car I just bought just by turning and starting to leave (3 times!)... it was only a $20k car to begin with, so thats a big chunk of change.
Remember... all the dealership bulsh!t papers and whatnot really don't mean crap, they get you to sign all these papers that mean nothing, its a ploy to make you feel committed to buy. They need your business more than you need them (you can always take your business elsewhere).
prvteye2003
Diamond Member
They make money from the finance people when they can get them customers. The best way to buy is to have a pre-approved check and haggle from there. They hate it when you get financing elsewhere because they lose money.😉
Next time you feel like you're getting ripped off, or you weren't treated nicely at the dealership, which is the norm, ask for the names of every one involved. If they ask why, just politely tell them that you are going to write a complaint letter and will send it straight to corporate, see how the attitudes change.
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
Sucker...
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