With all of the Courthouses, Post Offices and anything else being forced to remove anything referencing "God" or "In God We Trust" (such as the petition to have it removed from U.S. Currency), The Commandments or anything of that nature I thought it would be good to start an "Official" Post on the subject.
There is a Courthouse not far from my house here that was issued orders to remove a Picture frame type plaque of the 10 Commandments by a deadline of a date last week. I do not know the status of the Plaque today. There has also been talk that they must also stucco over the "In God We Trust" that is in the concrete over the entrance of the Courthouse as well.
Edit: Lawsuits have now been filed by same Group to have Ten Commandments removed from Barrow and now Habersham County Courthouses. If successful at these two they will take Crusade to rest of the Country.
Georgia Counties voting to Display Ten Commandments:
Barrow (Lost Case and ordered to remove Plaque, deciding if will appeal)
Habersham (Lost case and ordered to remove Plaques 11-18-2003, deciding if they will appeal)
Jackson 10-19-2003 (No suit brought yet, displayed as Historical with Magna Carter etc)
Walton 11-6-2003 (No suit brought yet, displayed as Historical with Magna Carter etc)
Franklin (Unknown status)
Cherokee (No suit brought yet, displayed as Historical with Magna Carter etc)
Kenessaw (City) (No suit brought yet, displayed as Historical with Magna Carter etc)
Alabama:
Montgomery (11-2003 Lost case, Monument removed, Judge removed)
Kentucky:
12-19-2003 Kentucky Rules Ten Commandments Illegal
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
No God allowed in the U.S. , only Man:
1-13-2004 Some see fluorescent fish as neon signs of trouble
Fish may be the first genetically altered creatures to reach the marketplace, but others may not be far behind. A New York company is trying to use gene splicing to create a cat that does not inflame allergies.
The cloning expert doing the research, Dr. Jerry Yang of the University of Connecticut, said funding problems have slowed the work but that initial results are promising. He's been able to create embryos that are missing the allergen gene.
He said his project was different from the glowing fish because allergen-free cats can occasionally be found in nature.
"We don't think we're creating anything new," he said. "We're creating existing animals."
An ATer in Off Topic posted this, shame on Kitna, Quarterback of the Bengals for wearing a Cross on his time after a game:
NFL Fines Kitna for wearing Baseball Cap with Cross after Game
After a victory over San Francisco, Kitna showed up at the press conference with a baseball cap marked with a white cross.
Kitna, an avid Bible reader, violated an NFL rule prohibiting the wearing of non-NFL apparel immediately after a game and was fined $5,000.
Taking the high road, Kitna's quote was ridiculously admirable.
"That's what happens when you don't follow the rules," Kitna said. "I won't wear it any more. The Bible says submit to the authorities placed above you. The authorities say that's the rule."
Had Kitna showed up visibly intoxicated, wearing red lipstick, but wearing a Bengals muscle tee, he may have gotten a reprimand from the league at the most.
But don't be promoting Jesus Christ.
Don't be promoting goodwill, peace, discipline, tolerance, love and sacrifice if it's not on an NFL-licensed hat.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apparently there is also a Law of Separation of Church and NFL too.
I put this in the God thread because this shows how it is HISTORY as well as Religion History of the U.S. under attack:
12-26-2003 Educators Debate Efforts to Rename Schools
HAMPTON, Va. - At Jefferson Davis Middle School, a civil war of words is being waged over a petition drive to erase the name of the slave-owning Confederate president from the school.
The naming of schools after Confederate figures is particularly rich with symbolism because of the South's slow move to integrate. Many schools were named after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled segregated schools unconstitutional in 1954 but before the departure of whites left many inner city schools majority black.
"Now whites are complaining that they are changing the name of Stonewall Jackson High School," says Fitzhugh Brundage, a University of North Carolina history professor who is writing a book on "black and white memory from the Civil War."
In the most sweeping change, the Orleans Parish School Board in Louisiana gave new names to schools once named for historical figures who owned slaves. George Washington Elementary School was renamed for Dr. Charles Richard Drew, a black surgeon who organized blood banks during World War II.
Henry Kidd, former Virginia commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, sees efforts by Harrison and others as a "chipping away, piece by piece, at our history."
---------------------------------------
See it will never end. Athiests are are in control and pushing for the removal of anything hinting of Religion in the U.S.
Larry Darby has filed a Lawsuit starting in Georgia for the removal of all Roadside Cross Memorials. He says the placement of a Religious symbol violates the Separation of Church and State.
12-10-2003Larry Darby President of Athiest Law Center files for removal of all Roadside Cross Memorials
10-18-2003 Ten Commandments ruled Unconstitutional, ordered to be removed immediately
A federal judge ruled Monday that the way Habersham County displays the Ten Commandments in its courthouse and natatorium is unconstitutional. The commandments must be removed immediately, the judge ruled.
In his ruling, Judge William O?Kelley of the United States District Court in Gainesville said the inclusion of the commandments in a display with other historical documents ?failed to include any explanation with the documents as to how they all fit together or why they were being presented as a group. ? A reasonable observer would be quite justified in concluding that (Habersham) was endorsing either religion in general or Judeo-Christian religions in particular.
11-15-2003 Judge still has ample support in Gainesville
The Rev. Jentezen Frank-lin, Free Chapel's senior pastor, said Moore's removal could fuel a "grass roots" reaction.
"People will rise and awaken to the problem," he said. "They'll take a stand, vote and appoint judges who will stand for their beliefs."
11-13-2003 Ten Commandments Judge Fired from Judicial Bench
MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore was removed from office Thursday for refusing to obey a federal court order to move his Ten Commandments monument from the rotunda of the state courthouse.
The state Court of the Judiciary unanimously imposed the harshest penalty possible ... Prosecutors said Moore's defiance, left unchecked, would harm the judicial system.
Speaking immediately after the decision, a defiant Moore told supporters he had only acknowledged God as is done in other official procedures and documents.
"That's all I've done. I've been found guilty," he said.
Presiding Judge William Thompson said the nine-member court had no choice in its decision after Moore willfully and publicly ignored the federal court order. "The chief justice placed himself above the law," Thompson said.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That's where Former Judge Moore erred. He placed the Commandments as a Religious tribute not Historical.
Painful and expensive lesson for him and his supporters.
11-6-2003 Another county plans to display Ten Commandments as Judge Moore visits Barrow for Rally
Suspended Alabama Chief Justice Moore told several hundred people at a rally Thursday in Barrow County that they will lead the fight to keep the Ten Commandments in government buildings.
He said -- quote -- "This issue will resonate from state to state beginning here. There will be such a loud noise of discontent that no court will be able to refuse it."
11-4-2003 Kennesaw Georgia passes Resolution supporting "God"
The north Cobb County city that has long been a battleground in the culture wars fired another shot Monday after the council unanimously approved a resolution to "urge all American citizens to proclaim to every level of government . . . its responsibility to publicly recognize God as the foundation of our national heritage
10-28-2003 All Tennessee Counties display Ten Commandments along side other Historical Documents such as Magn a Carter, Mayflower pact etc.
10-21-2003 Judge will sit on a decision for a couple of weeks to let people simmer down.
10-20-2003 Ten Commandments put to the test - Judge to rule on Habersham County display in a few weeks
The fate of a Ten Commandments display in Habersham County will be in limbo for a few more weeks. It will be at least that long until U.S. District Court Judge William O'Kelley rules on whether or not the plaque must come down from the Habersham courthouse and indoor swimming pool.
Expert witnesses from both sides disagreed as to whether or not the commandments are a historical or religious document.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
10-19-2003 I don't have a link but a Gainesville Georgia Judge is set to make a decision on whther the Ten Commandments stay or must be removed from the County Courthouses here in Georgia tomorrow Oct 20, 2003.
10-14-2003 Supreme Court to Decide Pledge Case
The case sets up an emotional showdown over God in the public schools and in public life.
10-4-2003 Bo Turner says U.S. Government a Theocracy
What is not a myth is that the political party the lady represents cannot even run the state's affairs. Imagine what would happen if these people were in charge of telling everyone when, where and how to worship.
Obviously, the dear lady fails to understand the horror of living in a theocracy. Perhaps she would prefer a government like Iran's, or England's when the King of England was the head of both the church and the state. History reveals this situation led to thousands fleeing England to find the hope of religious liberty in the New World.
10-3-2003 Ten Commandments trial starts Oct. 20 in Gainesville Georgia
A trial scheduled to begin Oct. 20 before a federal judge in Gainesville could decide the future for Ten Commandments displays in government buildings.
A jury will not be involved in deciding the case.
"I'm an American," said 69-year-old Charles (Bo) Turner, pastor of Tallulah Falls Baptist Church close to the Habersham-Rabun county line. "When I raised my right hand at age 19 in the Army, I swore on that day to defend and protect the (United States) Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic." "It undermines the Constitution and what this country stands for to have any religion promoted above any other," Turner said Thursday.
He and other opponents of the display have argued that its use in public buildings endorses Christianity and Judaism over other religions.
Along with legal support from the American Civil Liberties Union, Turner and others filed suit in March 2002 asking a federal court to order removal of the commandments from the Habersham County Courthouse.
"This is important," said Nancy Schaeffer of the Habersham community of Turnerville and a leader of Family Concerns, which has organized a support rally at noon Thursday near the county courthouse in Clarkesville.
"This is a watershed issue that could change our nation. When you look at murders, crimes and violence in our country, this is not the time to remove the commandments."
Turner disagrees. "The separation of church and state is not in the constitution, but it's very much part of the thinking of our founding fathers, especially Thomas Jefferson. Anytime church and state are one, someone will get persecuted."
Schaeffer said there is no law against hanging the commandments in a public building and the issue is not a Constitution argument for a federal judge to decide.
"No where is there any mention of separation of church and state," she said. "It's just a myth."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I live about 15 minutes from the Courthouse in downtown Gainesville, I don't know if the hearing will be open to the public. If it is I will try and attend.
9-27-2003 KKK, church join in protest
A rally headed by a south Georgia Ku Klux Klan member and featuring the congregation of a predominantly African-American Atlanta church drew some 250 people to Barrow County's courthouse Friday in support of a controversial Ten Commandments display in the downtown Winder building.
9-26-2003 Today, History will show such diverse groups coming together in the early stages of this War.
Later today the KKK will be protesting the removal of the Ten Commandments plaque on the steps of the Barrow County Courthouse along side 100 Leaders from local area predominantly Black Churches.
9-18-2003
Charles "Bo" Turner, Gregg Holder and ACLU Crusade to remove God from all Govt Buildings
Trial begins in Gainesville, Georgia in October to remove Ten Commandments from Habersham Courthouse 11 miles north of Gainesville. Trial date not set yet for Barrow County Courthouse 11 miles south of Gainesville. Same group filed Lawsuit Monday to have Ten Commandments removed from that Courthouse.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
9-18-2003
I don't have a link to a story yet but the local News has been reporting today that as they put it, "Two unlikely allies have come together to fight the crusade against the Ten Commandments".
The KKK and Black Churches have banded together in Protesting of the Group that has been filing these Lawsuits and working together in supporting local leaders in their battle against these individuals.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
9-15-2003 Latest chain E-mail going around on the "In God We Trust Issue:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: FW: WRITE IT ON THE BACK OF YOUR ENVELOPES
WRITE IT ON THE BACK OF YOUR ENVELOPES
You may have heard in the news that a couple of Post Offices in Texas have been forced to take down small posters that say "IN GOD WE TRUST."
The law, they say, is being violated. It is something silly about electioneering posters (is God running for office)?
Anyway, I heard proposed on a radio station show, that we all write "IN GOD WE 'TRUST" on the back of all our mail. After all, that is our national motto, and it's on all the money we use to buy those stamps. I think it is a wonderful idea.
We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed.
If you like this idea, please pass it on and DO IT. The idea of writing or stamping "IN GOD WE TRUST" on our envelopes sounds good to me. I'M HAVING MY STAMP MADE TODAY!
It has been reported that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a mess about having "In God We Trust"on our money and having God in the pledge of Allegiance.
Could it be that we just need to take action and tell the 14% to sit down and shut up?
If you agree, pass this on, if not delete.
God called us to be witnesses, not lawyers or judges
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edit: 11-29-2003 New York and California may exempt branches of the Catholic Church from state laws requiring contraceptives in employee prescription drug plans
Under church doctrine, contraception is a sin. "The Catholic Church explicitly teaches that artificial contraception is morally unacceptable and, if knowingly and freely engaged in, sinful," Catholic Charities of Sacramento attorney James Sweeney said.
Versions of the law have been adopted in 20 states after lawmakers concluded private employee prescription plans without contraceptive benefits discriminated against women.
At issue is a collision of the right of a religion to practice what it preaches and the newly acquired rights of thousands of women employed by church-affiliated groups to be insured for contraceptives.
The two states note that churches are exempt from having to provide contraception coverage for employees who work inside parishes and houses of worship. That is known as the "religious employer exemption" because the parishes generally serve worshippers and employ those with similar religious views.
Several states have no such exemptions for religious entities. Other versions exempt church groups and "qualified church-controlled organizations."
The organization, however, says it is carrying out the work of Jesus, and by the law's definition, "Mother Teresa would be forced to offer contraceptives," said Carol Hogan, a spokeswoman for the California Catholic Conference.
Sweeney added that the law is "un-American and disturbing" because of its "disrespect of religious, moral views."
An attorney for the ACLU argued that siding with the Catholics would, in essence, impose the church's doctrine on thousands of non-Catholic women who work at the church's hospitals or social-service agencies.
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists views the dispute as a health issue. Contraception gives women a chance to plan for a pregnancy, which the groups say makes for healthier mothers and babies.
"To ignore the health benefits of contraception is to say that the alternative of 12 to 15 pregnancies during a woman's lifetime is medically acceptable," said Catherine Hanson, the groups' attorney.
There is a Courthouse not far from my house here that was issued orders to remove a Picture frame type plaque of the 10 Commandments by a deadline of a date last week. I do not know the status of the Plaque today. There has also been talk that they must also stucco over the "In God We Trust" that is in the concrete over the entrance of the Courthouse as well.
Edit: Lawsuits have now been filed by same Group to have Ten Commandments removed from Barrow and now Habersham County Courthouses. If successful at these two they will take Crusade to rest of the Country.
Georgia Counties voting to Display Ten Commandments:
Barrow (Lost Case and ordered to remove Plaque, deciding if will appeal)
Habersham (Lost case and ordered to remove Plaques 11-18-2003, deciding if they will appeal)
Jackson 10-19-2003 (No suit brought yet, displayed as Historical with Magna Carter etc)
Walton 11-6-2003 (No suit brought yet, displayed as Historical with Magna Carter etc)
Franklin (Unknown status)
Cherokee (No suit brought yet, displayed as Historical with Magna Carter etc)
Kenessaw (City) (No suit brought yet, displayed as Historical with Magna Carter etc)
Alabama:
Montgomery (11-2003 Lost case, Monument removed, Judge removed)
Kentucky:
12-19-2003 Kentucky Rules Ten Commandments Illegal
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
No God allowed in the U.S. , only Man:
1-13-2004 Some see fluorescent fish as neon signs of trouble
Fish may be the first genetically altered creatures to reach the marketplace, but others may not be far behind. A New York company is trying to use gene splicing to create a cat that does not inflame allergies.
The cloning expert doing the research, Dr. Jerry Yang of the University of Connecticut, said funding problems have slowed the work but that initial results are promising. He's been able to create embryos that are missing the allergen gene.
He said his project was different from the glowing fish because allergen-free cats can occasionally be found in nature.
"We don't think we're creating anything new," he said. "We're creating existing animals."
An ATer in Off Topic posted this, shame on Kitna, Quarterback of the Bengals for wearing a Cross on his time after a game:
NFL Fines Kitna for wearing Baseball Cap with Cross after Game
After a victory over San Francisco, Kitna showed up at the press conference with a baseball cap marked with a white cross.
Kitna, an avid Bible reader, violated an NFL rule prohibiting the wearing of non-NFL apparel immediately after a game and was fined $5,000.
Taking the high road, Kitna's quote was ridiculously admirable.
"That's what happens when you don't follow the rules," Kitna said. "I won't wear it any more. The Bible says submit to the authorities placed above you. The authorities say that's the rule."
Had Kitna showed up visibly intoxicated, wearing red lipstick, but wearing a Bengals muscle tee, he may have gotten a reprimand from the league at the most.
But don't be promoting Jesus Christ.
Don't be promoting goodwill, peace, discipline, tolerance, love and sacrifice if it's not on an NFL-licensed hat.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apparently there is also a Law of Separation of Church and NFL too.
I put this in the God thread because this shows how it is HISTORY as well as Religion History of the U.S. under attack:
12-26-2003 Educators Debate Efforts to Rename Schools
HAMPTON, Va. - At Jefferson Davis Middle School, a civil war of words is being waged over a petition drive to erase the name of the slave-owning Confederate president from the school.
The naming of schools after Confederate figures is particularly rich with symbolism because of the South's slow move to integrate. Many schools were named after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled segregated schools unconstitutional in 1954 but before the departure of whites left many inner city schools majority black.
"Now whites are complaining that they are changing the name of Stonewall Jackson High School," says Fitzhugh Brundage, a University of North Carolina history professor who is writing a book on "black and white memory from the Civil War."
In the most sweeping change, the Orleans Parish School Board in Louisiana gave new names to schools once named for historical figures who owned slaves. George Washington Elementary School was renamed for Dr. Charles Richard Drew, a black surgeon who organized blood banks during World War II.
Henry Kidd, former Virginia commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, sees efforts by Harrison and others as a "chipping away, piece by piece, at our history."
---------------------------------------
See it will never end. Athiests are are in control and pushing for the removal of anything hinting of Religion in the U.S.
Larry Darby has filed a Lawsuit starting in Georgia for the removal of all Roadside Cross Memorials. He says the placement of a Religious symbol violates the Separation of Church and State.
12-10-2003Larry Darby President of Athiest Law Center files for removal of all Roadside Cross Memorials
10-18-2003 Ten Commandments ruled Unconstitutional, ordered to be removed immediately
A federal judge ruled Monday that the way Habersham County displays the Ten Commandments in its courthouse and natatorium is unconstitutional. The commandments must be removed immediately, the judge ruled.
In his ruling, Judge William O?Kelley of the United States District Court in Gainesville said the inclusion of the commandments in a display with other historical documents ?failed to include any explanation with the documents as to how they all fit together or why they were being presented as a group. ? A reasonable observer would be quite justified in concluding that (Habersham) was endorsing either religion in general or Judeo-Christian religions in particular.
11-15-2003 Judge still has ample support in Gainesville
The Rev. Jentezen Frank-lin, Free Chapel's senior pastor, said Moore's removal could fuel a "grass roots" reaction.
"People will rise and awaken to the problem," he said. "They'll take a stand, vote and appoint judges who will stand for their beliefs."
11-13-2003 Ten Commandments Judge Fired from Judicial Bench
MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore was removed from office Thursday for refusing to obey a federal court order to move his Ten Commandments monument from the rotunda of the state courthouse.
The state Court of the Judiciary unanimously imposed the harshest penalty possible ... Prosecutors said Moore's defiance, left unchecked, would harm the judicial system.
Speaking immediately after the decision, a defiant Moore told supporters he had only acknowledged God as is done in other official procedures and documents.
"That's all I've done. I've been found guilty," he said.
Presiding Judge William Thompson said the nine-member court had no choice in its decision after Moore willfully and publicly ignored the federal court order. "The chief justice placed himself above the law," Thompson said.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That's where Former Judge Moore erred. He placed the Commandments as a Religious tribute not Historical.
Painful and expensive lesson for him and his supporters.
11-6-2003 Another county plans to display Ten Commandments as Judge Moore visits Barrow for Rally
Suspended Alabama Chief Justice Moore told several hundred people at a rally Thursday in Barrow County that they will lead the fight to keep the Ten Commandments in government buildings.
He said -- quote -- "This issue will resonate from state to state beginning here. There will be such a loud noise of discontent that no court will be able to refuse it."
11-4-2003 Kennesaw Georgia passes Resolution supporting "God"
The north Cobb County city that has long been a battleground in the culture wars fired another shot Monday after the council unanimously approved a resolution to "urge all American citizens to proclaim to every level of government . . . its responsibility to publicly recognize God as the foundation of our national heritage
10-28-2003 All Tennessee Counties display Ten Commandments along side other Historical Documents such as Magn a Carter, Mayflower pact etc.
10-21-2003 Judge will sit on a decision for a couple of weeks to let people simmer down.
10-20-2003 Ten Commandments put to the test - Judge to rule on Habersham County display in a few weeks
The fate of a Ten Commandments display in Habersham County will be in limbo for a few more weeks. It will be at least that long until U.S. District Court Judge William O'Kelley rules on whether or not the plaque must come down from the Habersham courthouse and indoor swimming pool.
Expert witnesses from both sides disagreed as to whether or not the commandments are a historical or religious document.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
10-19-2003 I don't have a link but a Gainesville Georgia Judge is set to make a decision on whther the Ten Commandments stay or must be removed from the County Courthouses here in Georgia tomorrow Oct 20, 2003.
10-14-2003 Supreme Court to Decide Pledge Case
The case sets up an emotional showdown over God in the public schools and in public life.
10-4-2003 Bo Turner says U.S. Government a Theocracy
What is not a myth is that the political party the lady represents cannot even run the state's affairs. Imagine what would happen if these people were in charge of telling everyone when, where and how to worship.
Obviously, the dear lady fails to understand the horror of living in a theocracy. Perhaps she would prefer a government like Iran's, or England's when the King of England was the head of both the church and the state. History reveals this situation led to thousands fleeing England to find the hope of religious liberty in the New World.
10-3-2003 Ten Commandments trial starts Oct. 20 in Gainesville Georgia
A trial scheduled to begin Oct. 20 before a federal judge in Gainesville could decide the future for Ten Commandments displays in government buildings.
A jury will not be involved in deciding the case.
"I'm an American," said 69-year-old Charles (Bo) Turner, pastor of Tallulah Falls Baptist Church close to the Habersham-Rabun county line. "When I raised my right hand at age 19 in the Army, I swore on that day to defend and protect the (United States) Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic." "It undermines the Constitution and what this country stands for to have any religion promoted above any other," Turner said Thursday.
He and other opponents of the display have argued that its use in public buildings endorses Christianity and Judaism over other religions.
Along with legal support from the American Civil Liberties Union, Turner and others filed suit in March 2002 asking a federal court to order removal of the commandments from the Habersham County Courthouse.
"This is important," said Nancy Schaeffer of the Habersham community of Turnerville and a leader of Family Concerns, which has organized a support rally at noon Thursday near the county courthouse in Clarkesville.
"This is a watershed issue that could change our nation. When you look at murders, crimes and violence in our country, this is not the time to remove the commandments."
Turner disagrees. "The separation of church and state is not in the constitution, but it's very much part of the thinking of our founding fathers, especially Thomas Jefferson. Anytime church and state are one, someone will get persecuted."
Schaeffer said there is no law against hanging the commandments in a public building and the issue is not a Constitution argument for a federal judge to decide.
"No where is there any mention of separation of church and state," she said. "It's just a myth."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I live about 15 minutes from the Courthouse in downtown Gainesville, I don't know if the hearing will be open to the public. If it is I will try and attend.
9-27-2003 KKK, church join in protest
A rally headed by a south Georgia Ku Klux Klan member and featuring the congregation of a predominantly African-American Atlanta church drew some 250 people to Barrow County's courthouse Friday in support of a controversial Ten Commandments display in the downtown Winder building.
9-26-2003 Today, History will show such diverse groups coming together in the early stages of this War.
Later today the KKK will be protesting the removal of the Ten Commandments plaque on the steps of the Barrow County Courthouse along side 100 Leaders from local area predominantly Black Churches.
9-18-2003
Charles "Bo" Turner, Gregg Holder and ACLU Crusade to remove God from all Govt Buildings
Trial begins in Gainesville, Georgia in October to remove Ten Commandments from Habersham Courthouse 11 miles north of Gainesville. Trial date not set yet for Barrow County Courthouse 11 miles south of Gainesville. Same group filed Lawsuit Monday to have Ten Commandments removed from that Courthouse.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
9-18-2003
I don't have a link to a story yet but the local News has been reporting today that as they put it, "Two unlikely allies have come together to fight the crusade against the Ten Commandments".
The KKK and Black Churches have banded together in Protesting of the Group that has been filing these Lawsuits and working together in supporting local leaders in their battle against these individuals.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
9-15-2003 Latest chain E-mail going around on the "In God We Trust Issue:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: FW: WRITE IT ON THE BACK OF YOUR ENVELOPES
WRITE IT ON THE BACK OF YOUR ENVELOPES
You may have heard in the news that a couple of Post Offices in Texas have been forced to take down small posters that say "IN GOD WE TRUST."
The law, they say, is being violated. It is something silly about electioneering posters (is God running for office)?
Anyway, I heard proposed on a radio station show, that we all write "IN GOD WE 'TRUST" on the back of all our mail. After all, that is our national motto, and it's on all the money we use to buy those stamps. I think it is a wonderful idea.
We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed.
If you like this idea, please pass it on and DO IT. The idea of writing or stamping "IN GOD WE TRUST" on our envelopes sounds good to me. I'M HAVING MY STAMP MADE TODAY!
It has been reported that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a mess about having "In God We Trust"on our money and having God in the pledge of Allegiance.
Could it be that we just need to take action and tell the 14% to sit down and shut up?
If you agree, pass this on, if not delete.
God called us to be witnesses, not lawyers or judges
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edit: 11-29-2003 New York and California may exempt branches of the Catholic Church from state laws requiring contraceptives in employee prescription drug plans
Under church doctrine, contraception is a sin. "The Catholic Church explicitly teaches that artificial contraception is morally unacceptable and, if knowingly and freely engaged in, sinful," Catholic Charities of Sacramento attorney James Sweeney said.
Versions of the law have been adopted in 20 states after lawmakers concluded private employee prescription plans without contraceptive benefits discriminated against women.
At issue is a collision of the right of a religion to practice what it preaches and the newly acquired rights of thousands of women employed by church-affiliated groups to be insured for contraceptives.
The two states note that churches are exempt from having to provide contraception coverage for employees who work inside parishes and houses of worship. That is known as the "religious employer exemption" because the parishes generally serve worshippers and employ those with similar religious views.
Several states have no such exemptions for religious entities. Other versions exempt church groups and "qualified church-controlled organizations."
The organization, however, says it is carrying out the work of Jesus, and by the law's definition, "Mother Teresa would be forced to offer contraceptives," said Carol Hogan, a spokeswoman for the California Catholic Conference.
Sweeney added that the law is "un-American and disturbing" because of its "disrespect of religious, moral views."
An attorney for the ACLU argued that siding with the Catholics would, in essence, impose the church's doctrine on thousands of non-Catholic women who work at the church's hospitals or social-service agencies.
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists views the dispute as a health issue. Contraception gives women a chance to plan for a pregnancy, which the groups say makes for healthier mothers and babies.
"To ignore the health benefits of contraception is to say that the alternative of 12 to 15 pregnancies during a woman's lifetime is medically acceptable," said Catherine Hanson, the groups' attorney.
Facebook
Twitter