Go Team Obama!!!....Voter fraud?....theres no voter fraud here.

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chess9

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
We complain about Diebold(hey havent heard any complaints about them this cycle, cant imagine why!) but we have no idea who is really voting in our elections do we?
Are you suggesting that the destitute should be disenfranchised?

your not disenfranchised if you lost the right to vote because you are a felon.
So all those people are felons? Doesn't the registration board vett those who are registering before allowing them to vote? If not then the problem is with the registrar of voters not with those volunteers.

I never said that they all were.

But the chances are slim that he is the only one in this group or in the state who is being shuttled to the voting places and taking advantage of the system.


Like it or not this is happening and if "voter fraud" was really something people cared about Republican or Democrat then this should be unacceptable by anyones standards.

I totally agree, this is should be handled at the source...this kind of legislation is beyond ignorant.

There is a reason why we have verification before you are allowed to vote.

I would be calling out the Republicans for the same thing...when a story is published I will be sure to post it here as well.

I really don't give a fuck who wins this election......they are all crooks and robbers.

the integrity of the system is far more important.

Ohio lawmakers who put this in place should all be shot....this is complete bullshit.

Do I blame a broken system? hell yes.

Do I blame the people taking advantage of a broken system...hell yes.

Democrats bitch whine and complain about how many loop holes Palin took advantage of in her tax return and yet taking advantage of a loophole in the voting system is completely acceptable.

Nice double standard you got there.

First of all, you are complaining about this guy voting and you have NO proof he did so illegally. Secondly, this new provision for registration and voting only resulted in about 3,000 people registering and voting in the entire Buckeye State! I'd say the program was a good idea, but it will take a few years for it to get off the ground and be effective.

You are also saying the politicians are all crooks and robbers, but then you expect the system to have integrity? LOL? Why aren't you as laissez-faire about the system as well as the integrity of the politicians? Who has the double standard???

You might give a bit more thought to your posts rather than just drooling all over the keyboard.

I would have done something like this if I had been a right wing nut looking for attention on Anandtech's P and N forum:

"Is it wise to allow people to register and vote the same day? How will background checks be done? Will the integrity of the voting system, such as it is, be affected? Will this allow all those Negro Liberals to vote and turn Ohio BLUE?"

LOL. Objection to this proposal is obvious racism from where I sit, and I see a lot of it in the Republican Party.

-Robert

 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: chess9
Convicted felons should be required to vote. It should be a condition of their parole or probation, IMHO.

A few states have restored voting rights to convicted felons, and that is a salutory trend. Some states let convicted felons vote. Imagine that....

The largest block of people who don't vote are young people-the group with the most to lose if a bum is elected. They are the ones ignoring their franchise and civil rights! If you are concerned about voting, start there.

What's worse than a convicted felon voting? Let's see:

1. Voting for someone who supported the illegal Contra Death Squads?
2. Voting for someone who has climbed into bed with the man who caused the biggest S & L crisis in US History?
3. Voting for someone who would eviscerate health care in the USA?
4. Voting for someone who has so little value for his principles that he's done a 180 on almost all of them just to get elected Prez?
5. Voting for somone whose judgement is so piss poor he selected a running mate who probably couldn't have found Buenos Aires on a map before September 2008.

-Robert

Ummmm....what? I'm sorry, but I didn't realize that we only had 2 options, vote for a Republican or letting convicted felons vote. What an idiotic post. But just for fun, I'll play your game.

What's worse than a convicted felon voting? Let's see:

1. Voting for someone that uses a racist, American hating, hate spewing, radical preacher as his moral compass.
2. Voting for someone that has climbed into bed with Tony Rezko.
3. Voting for someone who would drown us in even more debt with promising world class healthcare to everyone.
4. Voting for someone who has so little value for his principles that he doesn't take a stand on ANYTHING, and votes "present".
5. Voting for someone whose judgment is so piss poor he pals around with a terrorist.

Is that change you can believe in?

Issues please... both of you get over teh petty crap and get to specific issues.
 

chess9

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And another thing. You don't make an argument for why felons should not be voting. Some states allow it, some do not. Why don't you tell us why it's bad for a felon to vote, but you don't say squat about all the young people who ignore the political process?

You are complaining about a few thousand people in the State of Ohio who MIGHT vote and ignoring about 2 million kids who won't come near a voting booth. Why should we take your point of view seriously when it is so narrowly racist?

-Robert
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: chess9
Convicted felons should be required to vote. It should be a condition of their parole or probation, IMHO.

A few states have restored voting rights to convicted felons, and that is a salutory trend. Some states let convicted felons vote. Imagine that....

The largest block of people who don't vote are young people-the group with the most to lose if a bum is elected. They are the ones ignoring their franchise and civil rights! If you are concerned about voting, start there.

What's worse than a convicted felon voting? Let's see:

1. Voting for someone who supported the illegal Contra Death Squads?
2. Voting for someone who has climbed into bed with the man who caused the biggest S & L crisis in US History?
3. Voting for someone who would eviscerate health care in the USA?
4. Voting for someone who has so little value for his principles that he's done a 180 on almost all of them just to get elected Prez?
5. Voting for somone whose judgement is so piss poor he selected a running mate who probably couldn't have found Buenos Aires on a map before September 2008.

-Robert

Ummmm....what? I'm sorry, but I didn't realize that we only had 2 options, vote for a Republican or letting convicted felons vote. What an idiotic post. But just for fun, I'll play your game.

What's worse than a convicted felon voting? Let's see:

1. Voting for someone that uses a racist, American hating, hate spewing, radical preacher as his moral compass.
2. Voting for someone that has climbed into bed with Tony Rezko.
3. Voting for someone who would drown us in even more debt with promising world class healthcare to everyone.
4. Voting for someone who has so little value for his principles that he doesn't take a stand on ANYTHING, and votes "present".
5. Voting for someone whose judgment is so piss poor he pals around with a terrorist.

Is that change you can believe in?

Issues please... both of you get over teh petty crap and get to specific issues.

None of that stuff really makes a difference to me, I was just responding to the partisan troll in kind. Take a look at his last two posts calling everyone racists.
 
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Only 14 states bar convicted felons who have served the balance of their sentences from voting. Ohio allows even felons on probation or parole to vote. Several states (including, curiously, Utah) actually allow convicted felons to vote from prison.
 

yowolabi

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Weird, the title says something about voter fraud, but the OP's article shows no evidence of fraud.

Was the title meant to be literal and not sarcastic?
 

yllus

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The entire idea that felons should lost voting privileges is idiotic. Have you served your time or not? If so, it's time to get on with your life - fully.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
We complain about Diebold(hey havent heard any complaints about them this cycle, cant imagine why!) but we have no idea who is really voting in our elections do we?
Are you suggesting that the destitute should be disenfranchised?

I am suggesting if we dont know who is voting to begin with the system has issues.

The system is rife with opportunity for voter fraud. While nothing is perfect, one of the best ways to defeat voter fraud is through the requirement of a valid, state issued license of some type. Could be drivers license, military ID card, but that will go a long way towards eliminating fraud in our voting system.

How many of those homeless people who have a right to vote have an ID do you think? After all you need an address to have it mailed to in a lot of states. (and you certainly need a real address on it for it to be valid) Do you think it's greater than the number who were ineligible to vote? I bet you it's FAR greater.

In addition it is not the job of the Obama campaign to research the background of everyone it helps register to vote. That is the job of the registration officials. People who are felons are frequently purged from the registration rolls and their votes discounted. Of course this fact doesn't jibe too well with the Republican myth of large scale at the polls voter fraud (which has been repeatedly shown not to exist).

You're losing because your candidate sucks, not because a homeless guy is voting.
 

bl4ckfl4g

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I never understood barring felons from voting. If they can't vote, they shouldn't have to pay taxes.