Go over your comcast limit twice and you can get banned

Texashiker

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Man goes over his 250 gig limit twice in 6 months, so comcast disconnect his service.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/07/14/comcast.bans.internet.wired/index.html?iref=obinsite

This internet cap stuff is getting worse and worse with every passing month. What is the use in even having high speed internet if you can not use it? Its like having a sport car and the speed limit set to 55 mph.

My ISP has a limit of 10 gigs a month, so I can not even come close to this 250 gigs.
 
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thescreensavers

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^ Comcast might be the only provider in the area

In my area its ATT DSL(SLOW) or Comcast(much faster)
 

Schadenfroh

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Why not just charge them for an extra month if they exceed the cap?

There are other ISP's, aren't there?
Here you have a choice, 3G wireless, AT&T DSL that is as slow as 3G wireless or Comcast.
 

Drako

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I have a hard time feeling sorry for this guy, and I'm not sure why he just didn't upgrade to the unlimited plan before.
 

ch33zw1z

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There are other ISP's, aren't there?

Sure are, literally hundreds. Doesn't mean any of those ISP's operate in his area. Keep in mind the Telco's monopolize the towns they're in. My area is Comcast or dialup. DSL barely reaches my street, connection is intermittent and very slow, and the DSL telco (Verizon) just doesn't give a shit.
 

ElFenix

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i like tmo's method: high speed up to your cap, then you get dropped to a lower speed bin.
 

her209

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I wonder if its against the agreement that Comcast signed with the municipality to ban users for a geographically monopolized service. I would think that agreement is subject to the FOIA....
 

ch33zw1z

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from the article: "It's one of those things I never thought would hit me," Vrignaud said. "They didn't even call. I just got double blinking lights on my modem."

from Comcast's TOS:

What will happen if I exceed 250 GB of data usage in a month?

The vast majority - more than 99% - of our customers will not be impacted by a 250 GB monthly data usage threshold. If you exceed more than 250 GB, you may receive a call from the Customer Security Assurance ("CSA") team to notify you of excessive use. At that time, we will tell you exactly how much data you used. When we call you, we try to help you identify the source of excessive use and ask you to moderate your usage, which the vast majority of our customers do voluntarily. If you exceed 250GB again within six months of the first contact, your service will be subject to termination and you will not be eligible for either residential or commercial internet service for twelve (12) months. We know from experience that most customers curb their usage after our first call. If your account is terminated, after the twelve (12) month period expires, you may resume service by subscribing to a service plan appropriate to your needs.

Our practice for the past several years has been to call only our heaviest data users, and this practice remains the same now that the 250GB data usage threshold is in effect. We may change our practice but will, of course, provide notice to you of any change.



Guess Comcast isn't giving out that courtesy phone call anymore.
 

spacejamz

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That dude is an idiot...plain and simple....he violated the policy and received a warning...the NEXT month, he violated it AGAIN...

"We called and reiterated the policy and told him if he did exceed it again in six months, he would face suspension. That is our policy"
 

ch33zw1z

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That dude is an idiot...plain and simple....he violated the policy and received a warning...the NEXT month, he violated it AGAIN...

"We called and reiterated the policy and told him if he did exceed it again in six months, he would face suspension. That is our policy"

So they're still giving out the phone call? yeesh.
 

spacejamz

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So they're still giving out the phone call? yeesh.

He says they didn't call and Comcast said they called, so I guess take your pick???

either way, he got a warning the month before and then does it again the next month...kinda hard to feel sorry for him, don't you think??
 

ch33zw1z

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He says they didn't call and Comcast said they called, so I guess take your pick???

either way, he got a warning the month before and then does it again the next month...kinda hard to feel sorry for him, don't you think??

No, not at all. I don't just feel sorry for him, I feel sorry for any user that is even aware of this cap. The cap itself is a slap in the face of users who choose to USE their connection. There should not be any caps. that is just my opinion of course.
 

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Probably 90%+ of users going over 250GB/month are downloading illegally so I don't have much sympathy for the guy.
 

her209

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Probably 90%+ of users going over 250GB/month are downloading illegally so I don't have much sympathy for the guy.
I don't think that's as true now that its possible to download high-def porn with a paid subscription.... just saying its possible to legally hit the limit.

:sneaky:
 

EagleKeeper

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Probably 90%+ of users going over 250GB/month are downloading illegally so I don't have much sympathy for the guy.
Well, if that's the case, then I guess future consoles will be using hard media (or we'll be stuck with MP3s and DDL) for quite some time.

The legit users can pay a little more if they desire.

The illegal downloaders are not going to pay; they are already stealing; paying for something goes against their grain.
 

EagleKeeper

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from the article: "It's one of those things I never thought would hit me," Vrignaud said. "They didn't even call. I just got double blinking lights on my modem."

from Comcast's TOS:

What will happen if I exceed 250 GB of data usage in a month?

The vast majority - more than 99% - of our customers will not be impacted by a 250 GB monthly data usage threshold. If you exceed more than 250 GB, you may receive a call from the Customer Security Assurance ("CSA") team to notify you of excessive use. At that time, we will tell you exactly how much data you used. When we call you, we try to help you identify the source of excessive use and ask you to moderate your usage, which the vast majority of our customers do voluntarily. If you exceed 250GB again within six months of the first contact, your service will be subject to termination and you will not be eligible for either residential or commercial internet service for twelve (12) months. We know from experience that most customers curb their usage after our first call. If your account is terminated, after the twelve (12) month period expires, you may resume service by subscribing to a service plan appropriate to your needs.

Our practice for the past several years has been to call only our heaviest data users, and this practice remains the same now that the 250GB data usage threshold is in effect. We may change our practice but will, of course, provide notice to you of any change.



Guess Comcast isn't giving out that courtesy phone call anymore.

Or he ignored it and then is complaining.
 

spacejamz

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this thread title needs to be changed to "Ignoring Comcast download cap after receiving a warning and you can get banned"
 

Throckmorton

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What happened to this guy was within their terms, so I don't see anything wrong. I do see something wrong with bandwidth caps in the first place. They're inhibiting the growth of the internet.
 

1prophet

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Probably 90%+ of users going over 250GB/month are downloading illegally so I don't have much sympathy for the guy.



Sorry but that old line "he must be doing something illegal" is getting old, what excuse will they have when the legal activities start eclipsing the assumed illegal.



ISPs misreport Netflix data usage as an excuse for home internet restrictions

http://www.macgasm.net/2011/05/23/i...data-usage-excuse-home-internet-restrictions/

This week, information was made public revealing that ISPs are actually misrepresenting the amount of bandwidth consumed by video streaming services like Netflix. In recent years, ISPs have been reporting Netflix’s use of bandwidth as being substantially higher than it actually has been, accusing the online video company of consuming a whopping 30% of all internet traffic.

Telecoms have been steadily losing cable and satellite TV subscribers to Netflix and other internet video sites. The companies make a very large profit margin when their customers purchase TV packages, forcing them into agreements involving far more channels and shows than they’ll ever want, let alone watch.
The data claiming that Netflix consumes as much as a third of the internet’s total traffic during peak hours was shown to be so flawed that Fortune magazine ran a story with the sole purpose of debunking the claim.
As they say, you can make numbers say anything, and it appears the ISPs have done just that. In reality, Netflix’ traffic only consumes the stated 30% of total internet traffic in the last mile or so before it reaches the user’s home. This is the last stretch of network between the last routing station and the neighborhood that the user lives in. So, the vast majority of the telecommunications networks’ pipelines are not being consumed by Netflix traffic at all.
However, it is in the best interest of the networks (as opposed to you, the users) to portray Netflix traffic as being as high as possible. This is because they would like to turn home internet service into a metered, monitored, and controlled network, in much the same way that they have done with mobile data. Just like you may be limited to 2GB or 5GB of data on your smartphone per month (and get charged overage fees if you exceed the allotted amount), the telecoms want to see you live in a world where you are only granted as much data as they grant you each month. They want to set this limit as low as 150GB per month.
This is an obvious problem because many Netflix users use more than 40GB each month on streaming video alone. If you download games, software updates, or iTunes or Amazon rentals, you are consuming several more gigabytes each month on top of that. It’s easy to see how you could use much more data than they want to give you in the space of a month. The telecoms want to be able to charge you as much as they want for that data, and thereby penalize you for using the internet access you already paid for.
What is the end game, you ask? That is a good question. The bottom line is, the telecoms you buy your internet service from want you to be so limited with what you do online that you are forced to purchase a separate or bundled TV package with your internet. This would push their profit margins upwards, and keep you, their customer, locked into an outmoded, draconian business model from yesteryear — indefinitely.
 

ElFenix

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Probably 90%+ of users going over 250GB/month are downloading illegally so I don't have much sympathy for the guy.

legit streaming services are apparently the largest portion of internet traffic now. so i dunno.
 

Zargon

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Probably 90%+ of users going over 250GB/month are downloading illegally so I don't have much sympathy for the guy.

what a crock of shit. with all the streaming services and digital game services, its not that hard.

you want illegal traffic? back in my younger stupider days I pulled 300 gigs in a weekend running an FTP site.

there are so many ways to ligitimately pass that much data, innocent until proven guilty?


I dont see how this is news though, this has been well known for years I thought that comcast will destroy you if you violate twice in 6 months.

back in the day they would send letters warning you if you got close, and tell you that you used too much bandwidth while still being under the cap :rolleyes:
 

SKORPI0

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Got that call last year for going over 250GB (actually 550GB) , switched to Comcast Business Class HSI. :thumbsup: