Go ahead, give the government all your money

[Lucky]

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What a masterpiece.


Thursday, May 29, 2003
By Neil Cavuto


So I'm at this big shindig with largely liberal venture capitalists -- (yes, there are a few. Quite a few, actually) -- who decide to gang up on me on my support of President Bush's tax cut.





"A blatant sop to the rich," one said.

"Our children will suffer," another railed.

When it was my turn to speak, I said simply, "You guys look like you're doing okay. If you don't want the tax cut, don't take the tax cut."

My point was and is this:

If you don't want that tax cut coming your way, send it back.

You don't want the extra bump in your paycheck, send it back.

You don't want more money to do more buying, or more investing, or more saving, send it back.

You think the government's a better place for our money, send back your money.

You think other families' money is better spent on your projects, send back your money for those projects.

You think the government has all the answers, give the government all your dough.

It's too late for you to lecture other people what they should do with "their" money. Practice what you preach and return "your" money.

Quite a few of you are very well off and say you don't need it. Prove it, then... and send it -- all of it -- back.

As for the rest of us who think we know more what to do with our money than you want to re-engineer with our money, may I suggest this:

Instead of spewing a speech, write a check:

I'll even give you the address:

Internal Revenue Service,
1111 Constitution Ave., NW
Washington, D.C. 20224.

You think those guys have all the answers? Give 'em all your money.

Pay up, and then for God's sake -- shut up.

Watch Neil Cavuto's Common Sense weekdays at 4 p.m. ET on Your World with Cavuto.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Very nice!

CkG

 

[Vic]

I love it. But then it defies the purpose of raising taxes, which is to raise other peoples' taxes without raising your own, something the Left has gotten so effective at doing these past years. Oh wait... that was the point wasn't it?

 

[burnedout]

Yep, good read.

Here is another address for those who do not want their tax cuts:

Please follow these important steps to make a contribution to reduce the debt.
Make check payable to the "Bureau of the Public Debt"
In the memo section of the check, make sure you write "Gift to reduce the Debt Held by the Public "
Mail check to -
ATTN DEPT G
BUREAU OF THE PUBLIC DEBT
P O BOX 2188
PARKERSBURG, WV 26106-2188

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: burnedout
Yep, good read.

Here is another address for those who do not want their tax cuts:

Please follow these important steps to make a contribution to reduce the debt.
Make check payable to the "Bureau of the Public Debt"
In the memo section of the check, make sure you write "Gift to reduce the Debt Held by the Public "
Mail check to -
ATTN DEPT G
BUREAU OF THE PUBLIC DEBT
P O BOX 2188
PARKERSBURG, WV 26106-2188

Actually they shouldn't send it there, and they shouldn't send it back to the IRS with "stipulations as to what to spend it on" If they did either - they would be saying they know better than the gov't as to the spending of their money.

IMO- they should either just send it back marked "spend as you wish, oh great savior of mankind"

CkG

 

[Nitemare]

good1

 

[Piano Man]

average.

 

[43st]

Half of that's a great idea.

But... rather than sending your money back to buy more smart bombs and toilet seats for the gutless peckers in Washington you can donate the money to a liberal cause. Here's a link for the liberal minded people around here itching to spend their tax cut on a worthy cause.

It certainly beats standing in BestBuy with your thumb up your ass looking at a new TV (made in China) because "I deserve it". If anything you deserve a solid kick in the nads.

 

[Vic]

Thera, that's a great idea. Voluntarily donating money to private charitable causes! And here I thought the government was the only way that people in need could get help. Amazing!

edit: Oops, those aren't charitable causes, they're pushy for-profit political causes. Hardly "worthy" places to give your tax break that you felt should have gone to help the poor. Better to give your money to the bum on the street.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: Thera
Half of that's a great idea.

But... rather than sending your money back to buy more smart bombs and toilet seats for the gutless peckers in Washington you can donate the money to a liberal cause. Here's a link for the liberal minded people around here itching to spend their tax cut on a worthy cause.

It certainly beats standing in BestBuy with your thumb up your ass looking at a new TV (made in China) because "I deserve it". If anything you deserve a solid kick in the nads.

Liberal minded is a nice way of saying "fscking stupid".

 

[Nitemare]

I'm thinking about buying a bunch of ribs from Chi Chi's then start throwing them in dumpsters watching all the freegans fight over nice juicy cow meat...

Will probably sell tickets to recoup the price of the ribs...

 

[sMiLeYz]

Once again! The flying monkey conservatives have missed the point, but this almost always come to be expected now.

Not so much as the government giving a big tax break, but the tax break mostly benefits people that dont need it... not the average hardworking american.

To better illustrate my point, I will draw on the flash cartoon that makes all that thinking a little easier to digest...

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/taxcut.html

 

[LeadMagnet]

Here is another address for those who do not want their tax cuts:

Please follow these important steps to make a contribution to reduce the debt.
Make check payable to the "Bureau of the Public Debt"
In the memo section of the check, make sure you write "Gift to reduce the Debt Held by the Public "
Mail check to -
ATTN DEPT G
BUREAU OF THE PUBLIC DEBT
P O BOX 2188
PARKERSBURG, WV 26106-2188

Or you can just PayPal the money to me at valeadmagnet@yahoo.com and I promise it will go to a good cause.

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: Vic
Thera, that's a great idea. Voluntarily donating money to private charitable causes! And here I thought the government was the only way that people in need could get help. Amazing!

edit: Oops, those aren't charitable causes, they're pushy for-profit political causes. Hardly "worthy" places to give your tax break that you felt should have gone to help the poor. Better to give your money to the bum on the street.

You're right... It's a wonderful idea. How much did you donate last 5 years? Just scan the receipts and marker out the personal info.

Any of you morally and socially bereft (compassionate) Conservatives can play along to if you want.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Once again! The flying monkey conservatives have missed the point, but this almost always come to be expected now.

Not so much as the government giving a big tax break, but the tax break mostly benefits people that dont need it... not the average hardworking american.

To better illustrate my point, I will draw on the flash cartoon that makes all that thinking a little easier to digest...

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/taxcut.html

Pull the wool from your eyes, pal. The governments, both state and federal, are literally swimming in money. Oregon, for example, screams about revenue shortfall as it passes its biggest budget ever. But most of it goes to fat and garbage, where the special interests that line the political pockets (both Pub and Dem) rule. So they can't cut THAT money, so where do they cut it? You got it... schools, police, prisons, social programs... anyway they can to convince the voting public that they need more money and taxes. It's an age-old political ploy and you fall for it.
Of course, your attitude tells me that you probably don't even pay taxes. How do I know? Because you said that the "average hardworking american" won't benefit from this tax cut. But who gets the biggest percentage decrease? Those who make $40k/yr. and have 2 kids. And what does the "average hardworking american" look like? He makes $40k/yr. and has 2 kids.
Wake up. See through the lies. You're just another willing pawn in our government's two-pronged quest to take over everything.
I'm no Bush fan, but I see this tax cut as a good thing. Our economy needs people out there spending money, and this will provide the "average hardworking american" with more money to spend and/or to invest, either way will create new jobs.

edit: minor misspelling

 

[308nato]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Once again! The flying monkey conservatives have missed the point, but this almost always come to be expected now.

Not so much as the government giving a big tax break, but the tax break mostly benefits people that dont need it... not the average hardworking american.

To better illustrate my point, I will draw on the flash cartoon that makes all that thinking a little easier to digest...

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/taxcut.html

Yeah. Its a goddamned shame the tax cut is going to citizens that actually like pay taxes and stuuf.
:|

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Thera
You're right... It's a wonderful idea. How much did you donate last 5 years? Just scan the receipts and marker out the personal info.

Any of you morally and socially bereft (compassionate) Conservatives can play along to if you want.

Only if I get to compare my receipts against yours, including our respective tax burdens.

 

[LeadMagnet]

Give the tax cuts to the $60,000 to $120,000 per year people so they can spend it on things - that get the <$60,000 people to work - That spend it on things that make the >$120,001 wealthy.

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Thera
You're right... It's a wonderful idea. How much did you donate last 5 years? Just scan the receipts and marker out the personal info.

Any of you morally and socially bereft (compassionate) Conservatives can play along to if you want.

Only if I get to compare my receipts against yours, including our respective tax burdens.

It's actually not part of my political platform, but it is a part of yours.

I'll hold my word on giving all the tax cut money to charity, I assume you'll do the same because you're a Republican. If you want to place a bet then name your terms. At the very least we'll both need to provide the dollar amount, the charity, and a receipt. We'll probably need some third party moderators also. Wouldn't want a conservative to be caught doing fuzzy math or trying to cheat would we?

Or you can back out. I understand that financial pressures can make it rough to make those new car payments.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Thera
You're right... It's a wonderful idea. How much did you donate last 5 years? Just scan the receipts and marker out the personal info.

Any of you morally and socially bereft (compassionate) Conservatives can play along to if you want.

Only if I get to compare my receipts against yours, including our respective tax burdens.

It's actually not part of my political platform, but it is a part of yours.

I'll hold my word on giving all the tax cut money to charity, I assume you'll do the same because you're a Republican. If you want to place a bet then name your terms. At the very least we'll both need to provide the dollar amount, the charity, and a receipt. We'll probably need some third party moderators also. Wouldn't want a conservative to be caught doing fuzzy math or trying to cheat would we?

Or you can back out. I understand that financial pressures can make it rough to make those new car payments.

Bad assumption. I'm not a Republican, I'm a registered Libertarian who only votes outside the party lines when I want to vote against a particular candidate (which I actually did in 2000 when I voted against Bush, but that was actually a vote against Ashcroft).
Also, as I'm not married (live in sin ) and don't have any children, I'm not sure just how much this tax cut will positively affect me. But as I firmly believe that taxes are too high, that our government is too wasteful, and that if a poor kid like myself can make it into the middle class ranks without any form of government assistance, then everyone should be able to do it, so I think the tax is a good thing even if it doesn't end up helping me. Why? Because I think that it will help working families, not welfare families.
As for your wager, that's your idea, not mine. I have nothing to back out of. And because a huge chunk of the taxes I pay go to the social services that you love, were I to accept your offer, I would insist on including them in the totals.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Once again! The flying monkey conservatives have missed the point, but this almost always come to be expected now.

Not so much as the government giving a big tax break, but the tax break mostly benefits people that dont need it... not the average hardworking american.

To better illustrate my point, I will draw on the flash cartoon that makes all that thinking a little easier to digest...

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/taxcut.html

Typical class warfare as outlined on page 2 in "How to become a Democrat in 2 pages" (page one has 2 words - "Blame Bush")

CkG

 

[gordy]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Once again! The flying monkey conservatives have missed the point, but this almost always come to be expected now.

Not so much as the government giving a big tax break, but the tax break mostly benefits people that dont need it... not the average hardworking american.

To better illustrate my point, I will draw on the flash cartoon that makes all that thinking a little easier to digest...

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/taxcut.html

ummm... hel-the-fvck-lo... the people not getting a taxcut don't pay income tax, they aren't gettin one because they don't pay in..

Christ, when will people learn...