GM yeah we made shity cars..but to bad for you!

[1prophet]

Corporations act like people. Some are honest and will honor their work or product, some always look for a way out. You attribute your distrust of corporations to the fact that they are corporations, when really you just dislike the way some people act.

Corporations are as good or bad as the people running them, hold the people in the corporations accountable who make the key decisions and watch how fast these corporations change their tune.

 

[LTC8K6]

It's going to look bad. They went out of their way, including the Obama admin, to reassure about warranties.

 

[1prophet]

Go back up and read the article. New GM assumed liability for all express warranties of old GM as part of its Chapter 11 plan. The lawsuit the article is about is a class action about alleged defects which the class action plaintiffs claim should be covered by some unwritten warranty of Old GM, and said unwritten warranties somehow also become liabilities of New GM.

The issue is not the quality of GM cars or even of the bankruptcy per se, but the vast extent to which sloppy readers here so readily assume the plaintiffs claims have any legal merit whatsoever.

The unwritten warranty is called Goodwill at the discretion of the service manager if his technicians meet the minimum training requirements, if not he has to route the claim through the area service manager who will usually deny it.

As for the actual problem

http://www.phila.gov/fleet/Warranty Recalls/08032A bulletin.pdf

 

[Estrella]

So, let me get this right. Cut a person in many different pieces. Put the person back together. Poof! A completely different person is put together?

 

[HeXen]

They should have just let GM and Chrysler die.

 

[Greenman]

So it was only the Unions fault for their original demise and not piss poor management?

The unions were every bit as guilty as management. It was never one or the other. Often, when dealing with Union demands and the threat of a strike, management had to choose, go broke now, or go broke later. Both sides were guilty of short sightedness and greed, so the US taxpayer had to pay for it.

It's a rotten deal either way. Either a bunch of people get canned, or taxpayers have to support a failed business. In the end, I think bailing out the car makers was the right thing to do. Bailing out AIG and Goldman Sachs was a crime against the American people. Made even worse by them giving us the finger after they got their check.

 

[evident]

They should have just let GM and Chrysler die.

as much as i hate these POS companies, i don't think this would have been a good idea, mainly due to screwing over their suppliers too.

 

[Thump553]

The unwritten warranty is called Goodwill at the discretion of the service manager if his technicians meet the minimum training requirements, if not he has to route the claim through the area service manager who will usually deny it.

As for the actual problem

http://www.phila.gov/fleet/Warranty Recalls/08032A bulletin.pdf

Goodwill is a courtesy and not a legally binding obligation.

 

[pcgeek11]

YOUR NEW GM VEHICLE WARRANTY IS MEANINGLESS

United States District Court Judge Charlene Edwards Honeywell, at Fort Myers Florida, issued an ORDER in Kidwell v. G. Richard Wagoner, et al., Case 2:09-CV-108-FtM-36-DNF overturning the GM Bankruptcy Court ORDER that made the new General Motors Company, LLC liable for new Vehicle Warranties.

Judge Honeywell stated that pursuant to the General Motors Bankruptcy GM Consumers were barred from enforcing their new GM Vehicle Warranties, and could not prosecute State Lemon Law Actions, Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act Claims, or any other kind of new Vehicle Warranty Claim against the new General Motors, LLC.

What this means is that if you have a GM Vehicle that was under warranty at the time of the Bankruptcy, or you have purchased a new GM Vehicle RECENTLY since the Bankruptcy, your GM New Vehicle Warranty isn't worth squat! You've been ripped off!

My original post needs some foot notes due to me researching a little more and reading the copy of the actual documents. I would have tossed the case out myself. Sorry about the original post.

Link: http://bankrupt.com/misc/GM_DCOrderandJudgment.pdf

The guy sueing GM is a dipshit. He is sueing for Billions of dollars, that is not a misprint Billions with a B. This is on a truck purchased in 2003. Why wasn't this an issue before 2010? He wants 50 dollars a day in damages, his costs for pursuing this and personal injuries. He is also sueing for $2,100,000,000 in punitive damages. That is right Two Billion One Hundred Million Dollars.

The sale order through bankruptcy only requires the new GM to provide warranty repair services for the Old GM which they say they will and are doing. Any implied warranty of servicability etc and liability did not transfer over to the new GM.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...-repairs-on-400k-cars-20110819,0,870265.story


General Motors Co. is seeking to dismiss a lawsuit over a suspension problem on more than 400,000 Chevrolet Impalas from the 2007 and 2008 model years, saying it should not be responsible for repairs because the flaw predated its bankruptcy.

The lawsuit, filed on June 29 by Donna Trusky of Blakely, Penn.,coniouslytended that her Impala suffered from faulty rear spindle rods, causing her rear tires to wear out after just 6,000 miles.

Obviously, GM's management has learned nothing from the past couple decades of Japanese dominance. They should just recall all of those vehicles, fix the problem, and think of it as an investment in building up a reputation for build quality and reliability. I still don't trust any of the American car makers and will continue to prefer foreign brands if I can afford them.