GM, U.S. Army introduce first fuel cell-powered military vehicle

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HONEOYE FALLS, N.Y. -- The U.S. Army began its march into the hydrogen economy Friday with the introduction of the military's first ever fuel cell-powered vehicle, developed in partnership with General Motors Corp.

The truck, a modified Chevrolet Silverado Crew Cab pickup, was rolled out at GM's fuel cell research center in upstate New York. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY), the driving force behind the GM-Army partnership, was present along with U.S. Army Brigadier General Roger A. Nadeau.

Elizabeth Lowery, GM Vice President of Environment and Energy, stated that the military's first fuel cell vehicle would be used for non-tactical applications at Fort Belvoir, Va, for a 16-month evaluation period. "We are tremendously excited about this new commercial truck for military purposes," Lowery said, adding, "It's an important advance incorporating advanced fuel cell technology and introducing the military to the flexibility and security of fuel cell power."

The all-wheel drive vehicle is equipped with two 200-cell stacks delivering a maximum of 188kW to independent front and rear drive systems that give the 7,603-pound pickup a top speed of 93 mph. With a maximum torque rating of 317 lb. ft., the vehicle exhibits acceleration similar to a conventional V8-powered model.

Initially the vehicle will use three 350-bar (5000psi) hydrogen storage tanks, chosen to match the hydrogen fueling equipment at Fort Belvoir. These tanks will be upgraded to 700-bar (10,000psi) units during the evaluation period, which will give the vehicle a maximum range of 125 miles. GM says that the vehicle has not been specifically optimized for driving range.

U.S. Army General Nadeau described this latest partnership between the military and the private sector as a "win-win" scenario.

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0504/02/autos-137015.htm
 
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I hope it doesn't turn out to be another pork-project that gets pushed through before it is fully ready, like the Stryker. :-/

EDIT: Ah, non-tactical. Well, as long as it doesn't cost so much to produce, maintain, and deploy them that they turn into another military money pit.
 

Kelemvor

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Wish there were more details on the vehicle itself with schematics and such. I'm very intersted in the whole Fuel Cell thing but it's hard to get real information since it's mostly still in the design phase...
 

cavemanmoron

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Originally posted by: yellowfiero
HONEOYE FALLS, N.Y. -- The U.S. Army began its march into the hydrogen economy Friday with the introduction of the military's first ever fuel cell-powered vehicle, developed in partnership with General Motors Corp.

The truck, a modified Chevrolet Silverado Crew Cab pickup, was rolled out at GM's fuel cell research center in upstate New York. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY), the driving force behind the GM-Army partnership, was present along with U.S. Army Brigadier General Roger A. Nadeau.

Elizabeth Lowery, GM Vice President of Environment and Energy, stated that the military's first fuel cell vehicle would be used for non-tactical applications at Fort Belvoir, Va, for a 16-month evaluation period. "We are tremendously excited about this new commercial truck for military purposes," Lowery said, adding, "It's an important advance incorporating advanced fuel cell technology and introducing the military to the flexibility and security of fuel cell power."

The all-wheel drive vehicle is equipped with two 200-cell stacks delivering a maximum of 188kW to independent front and rear drive systems that give the 7,603-pound pickup a top speed of 93 mph. With a maximum torque rating of 317 lb. ft., the vehicle exhibits acceleration similar to a conventional V8-powered model.

Initially the vehicle will use three 350-bar (5000psi) hydrogen storage tanks, chosen to match the hydrogen fueling equipment at Fort Belvoir. These tanks will be upgraded to 700-bar (10,000psi) units during the evaluation period, which will give the vehicle a maximum range of 125 miles. GM says that the vehicle has not been specifically optimized for driving range.
U.S. Army General Nadeau described this latest partnership between the military and the private sector as a "win-win" scenario.

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0504/02/autos-137015.htm


125 mile driving range is just plain sad.
Sad :(

new technology sux,it should be 400 mile driving range in 60 gallons of fuel,or further.

10 mpg minimum.
 

theNEOone

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a selection from a WSJ article:

The modified Chevrolet Silverado crew-cab truck is powered by two hydrogen fuel cell stacks and has a driving range of 125 miles. It can carry up to 1,600 pounds, accelerate from zero to 60 mph in 19 seconds and has a top speed of 93 mph.

125 mile driving is pretty sad, but what about 0-60 mph in 19 seconds....HAHAHAHAHAHA.


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Chadder007

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A Hydrogen powered military vehicle thats going to be shot at.....won't that be more explosive if hit than the diesel ones would now? :confused:
 

MedicBob

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
A Hydrogen powered military vehicle thats going to be shot at.....won't that be more explosive if hit than the diesel ones would now? :confused:

Non-tactical IE not on battlefield.

 

Kenazo

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Gas and diesel are still cheap enough to make projects like this make very little economic sense, but I suppose it's good to look to the future.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: MedicBob
Originally posted by: Chadder007
A Hydrogen powered military vehicle thats going to be shot at.....won't that be more explosive if hit than the diesel ones would now? :confused:

Non-tactical IE not on battlefield.

In the military, the is no such thing as non-tactical.
 

Fenixgoon

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gas >> hydrogen still... research is great, but it still takes 100000000000000 gallons of compressed hydrogen to equal 1 gallon of gas
 

Mark R

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Because the military are the only people who can afford to replace the $1,000,000 fuel cells when they wear out after 10,000 miles. :)
 

MedicBob

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: MedicBob
Originally posted by: Chadder007
A Hydrogen powered military vehicle thats going to be shot at.....won't that be more explosive if hit than the diesel ones would now? :confused:

Non-tactical IE not on battlefield.

In the military, the is no such thing as non-tactical.

So USAF flight line vans are tactical vehicles?

There is a whole commercial vehicle fleet that outnumbers tactical vehicles that will never see significant offroad use and never see a combat zone. Hence why they are called commercial vs tactical.

After 17 years I know a bit about how the military orgainizes its fleets.

 

iwantanewcomputer

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good to see hillary taking credit for this... fuel cells will have to come a long way before they make economic sense, but if oil hits $100 a barrel it will make more sense. i have studied fuel cells and have some profs that do research on them. within the next 5 years fuel cells will be sold for cell phones/laptop batteries and other little devices. they won't be practical for cars because of the huge power involved for decades. right now it makes more sense to plug a huge Li-ion battery into a car
 

theNEOone

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Originally posted by: MedicBob
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: MedicBob
Originally posted by: Chadder007
A Hydrogen powered military vehicle thats going to be shot at.....won't that be more explosive if hit than the diesel ones would now? :confused:

Non-tactical IE not on battlefield.

In the military, the is no such thing as non-tactical.

So USAF flight line vans are tactical vehicles?

There is a whole commercial vehicle fleet that outnumbers tactical vehicles that will never see significant offroad use and never see a combat zone. Hence why they are called commercial vs tactical.

After 17 years I know a bit about how the military orgainizes its fleets.
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