Glow in the dark pigs.

techs

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/12/fluorescent_pig/
Taiwanese boffins have successfully bred three fluorescent pigs who, they claim, far outshine previous efforts at producing glow-in-the-dark porkers, which resulted in a disappointing partial fluorescence.

We kid you not. The BBC is reporting that National Taiwan University's Department of Animal Science and Technology has pulled off a fluorescent pig coup in breeding the green-to-the-core "transgenic" pigs using jellyfish DNA. The DNA was injected into about 260 embryos which were then implanted into eight sows. Four became pregnant, leading to the birth of three male piglets three months ago.

Why did they do this?

There is, mercifully, some method to the madness. The boffins reckon the pigs' genetic material can be used to study human disease because it's "easy to spot". For example, if some of the pigs' stem cells are "injected into another animal, scientists can track how the stem cells develop without the need for a biopsy or invasive test".

Check out the pigs here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4605202.stm

It seems to me you should have a pretty good reason before you start tampering with dna on this level. One slip and who knows what type of new disease could be created.
I think this is maybe more dangerous to the future of the human race than terrorism.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: techs
It seems to me you should have a pretty good reason before you start tampering with dna on this level. One slip and who knows what type of new disease could be created.
It's a fairly small manipulation. Please don't start the uber-emotional "save us from scientists" talk, while having no knowledge of what was actually done.
Originally posted by: techs
I think this is maybe more dangerous to the future of the human race than terrorism.
And your last sentence earns you the title of offensive insanity, in addition to a bachelors in ignorance. Congratulations.

Of course, you're partially right. I mean curing diseases will yield longer lifespans and additional population... which may lead to hunger and war... so yes, medicine is more dangerous than terorrism.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: rickn
why waste resources on glow in the dark? I want to see them fly
Exactly, I've heard we are in for some real revolutions when that happens. :D
 

tweakmm

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I was watching the Daily Show yesterday and they were talking about how you could read about it in the New England Journal of Evil
That show is so hillarious.

But seriously, genetic manipulation is the natural progression of science and only the future will tell if it will be our undoing.
If it is, it doesn't really matter as we're doomed pretty much however we proceed. The more I see the more obvious it is that it is human nautre to destroy itself.
 

Zebo

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Woods + Montana + 360 acres is your only hope luddite. Take Dave with you and cancel your intraweb too.

 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Woods + Montana + 360 acres is your only hope luddite. Take Dave with you and cancel your intraweb too.

Montana will be a barren desert. Move to Alaska, Yukon/NWT/Nunavut, or Siberia where the New Tropics will be located. ;)
 

mect

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: techs
It seems to me you should have a pretty good reason before you start tampering with dna on this level. One slip and who knows what type of new disease could be created.
It's a fairly small manipulation. Please don't start the uber-emotional "save us from scientists" talk, while having no knowledge of what was actually done.
Originally posted by: techs
I think this is maybe more dangerous to the future of the human race than terrorism.
And your last sentence earns you the title of offensive insanity, in addition to a bachelors in ignorance. Congratulations.

Of course, you're partially right. I mean curing diseases will yield longer lifespans and additional population... which may lead to hunger and war... so yes, medicine is more dangerous than terorrism.

There is a deeply rooted fear of science in much of society due to atomic weapons development and testing, ddt, and such. If you ask a normal person what a chemical is, they will respond that it is something that causes harm or similar. If you say chemical compound, it automatically has the ring of something dangerous. Many chemical companies and organizations took the word chemical out of a lot of their publicity for awhile for that reason.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: mect
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: techs
It seems to me you should have a pretty good reason before you start tampering with dna on this level. One slip and who knows what type of new disease could be created.
It's a fairly small manipulation. Please don't start the uber-emotional "save us from scientists" talk, while having no knowledge of what was actually done.
Originally posted by: techs
I think this is maybe more dangerous to the future of the human race than terrorism.
And your last sentence earns you the title of offensive insanity, in addition to a bachelors in ignorance. Congratulations.

Of course, you're partially right. I mean curing diseases will yield longer lifespans and additional population... which may lead to hunger and war... so yes, medicine is more dangerous than terorrism.

There is a deeply rooted fear of science in much of society due to atomic weapons development and testing, ddt, and such. If you ask a normal person what a chemical is, they will respond that it is something that causes harm or similar. If you say chemical compound, it automatically has the ring of something dangerous. Many chemical companies and organizations took the word chemical out of a lot of their publicity for awhile for that reason.

A certain amount of concern is not a bad thing. Though in this case I don't see much possible daanger and certainly many are illogically fearful/distrustful, but blind acceptance of everything has had some dire consequences as well. The General Public and Science are still trying to figure out the Balance that's best for everyone involved.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: mect
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: techs
It seems to me you should have a pretty good reason before you start tampering with dna on this level. One slip and who knows what type of new disease could be created.
It's a fairly small manipulation. Please don't start the uber-emotional "save us from scientists" talk, while having no knowledge of what was actually done.
Originally posted by: techs
I think this is maybe more dangerous to the future of the human race than terrorism.
And your last sentence earns you the title of offensive insanity, in addition to a bachelors in ignorance. Congratulations.

Of course, you're partially right. I mean curing diseases will yield longer lifespans and additional population... which may lead to hunger and war... so yes, medicine is more dangerous than terorrism.

There is a deeply rooted fear of science in much of society due to atomic weapons development and testing, ddt, and such. If you ask a normal person what a chemical is, they will respond that it is something that causes harm or similar. If you say chemical compound, it automatically has the ring of something dangerous. Many chemical companies and organizations took the word chemical out of a lot of their publicity for awhile for that reason.
Dupont went from "Better living thru Chemistry" to "Better things for living"
 

trenchfoot

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there's ample reason for being skeptical and/or fearful of the way some scientists disregard ethics and morals to acquire useful data.
for example, US citizens of hawaii-island of o'ahu were subjected to diseases by the american military without them being aware they were all guinea pigs in an experiment utilizing airborne aerosols with viruses embedded in them. the military wanted to see how the dispersal of these diseases from aircraft affected and spread among the general population. they not only did it once, they did it at least three times. i believe it was during the 1940's-60's.

not to mention all those other research projects the nazi's and japanese military aided by their scientists conducted on pow's and civilians during ww2.

add to that the secretive nature that is imbued into many commercial products under the guise of "proprietary rights" where the general public is not made aware of the potential harm product ingredients can cause, with disclosure and accountability coming only after many suffer crippling effects or die.

whether you call it ignorance, arrogance, greed or vanity, when it comes to having scientists/technicians messing with mother nature, the urge to err on the side of safety is always proportional to how much money or fame and glory is involved.

that being said, i also do appreciate and marvel at the many benefits and advancements that science has given to the world.

 

TheSlamma

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I wonder if they could do this with cows and sheep.

Then they could be hurded at night... they could be called Tracer Calf's or something....



<---- runs to patent office.
 

TheSlamma

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Originally posted by: techs
It seems to me you should have a pretty good reason before you start tampering with dna on this level. One slip and who knows what type of new disease could be created.
I think this is maybe more dangerous to the future of the human race than terrorism.

I'm not afraid of either. Get some balls.