GlobalWin CAK38 Review ... You'll be surprised !!!

NucleusWDS

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I checked a review on the GlobalWin CAK38 copper cooler ... you'll be surprised with the results

Check it outHERE
 

John

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How about a review of the Taisol CGK760092 w/ a Sunon high output 60mm or a YS Tech 60mm? :)
 

McCarthy

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Hasn't it been demonstrated enough times by now that aluminum is the better material for the bulk of the heatsink? Yes, copper transfers heat faster, nice choice for the base where it's in contact with the CPU. But aluminum disappates heat better, weighs less, costs less...so remind me, what's the upside of these heavy, underperforming pure copper sinks?

Personally I'm hoping this little fad will die fast and companies will come out with some more clever designs.

--Mc
 

mackstann

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McCarthy, go check out the Millenium Glaciator. It's all copper and kicks the Swiftech 462's ass even. There's a review at overclockers.com:D
 

mikef208

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While I am not dissputing that the Glaciator maybe the best heatsink in the world. I don't think we can say that it is, just because overclockers hideout said it was. One review is not enough to consider it that great.
 

Kill_Phil

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i think that even tho the copper heatsinks are not as good at convection as aluminum fins, they seem to make up for it with the high conducive qualities. logically they souldent be as good as something aluminum with a copper inlay, and ive been skeptical about the all copper heatsinks (as ive been skeptical with this orb craze). but ive heard lots of good regarding the copper heatsinks.. i guess we should wait for some more reviews to pop up, but like ive said.. ive heard good, so maby the tradeoff between good conduction\not as good convection isint as bad as you\I think.

=)

(hope i got the conduction and convection terms right, heh)

[edit] after reading that review, that thing sounds real crappy, guess what ive heard dosent mean jack =P[/edit]
 

McCarthy

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The Millenium Glaciator is one of the clever designs I alluded to :)

As I remember, there were plans to do an aluminum version of that sink...would love to see how it compares so we can see how much is it's copper construction and how much is it's design. Based on the design, I'd guess copper would win out handily in this case - for the upper horizontal fins around the fan to work most efficiently I mean. But we'd have to see.

Both need more reviews, but it seems the MG is a nice arrival on the scene.

--Mc
 

Pabster

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Ok, the Glaciator doesn't kick the MC462-A *at all*. We've seen a grand total of one review, from a site which quite obviously is connected to the developer and architect of the product. Any obvious bias there? I don't agree with the way they tested nor their results. The MC462-A has been shown to be king, across all platforms, with all different CPUs, in any given fashion of testing.

Why do these all copper hs/f suck? Simple. Copper *does* transfer heat better and faster than Aluminum; The caveat: Aluminium *dissipates* that heat *faster* than copper; That's why the MC462-A is so killer. The copper base provides fast heat transfer, and the aluminum dissipates it quickly. It's a perfect combination.

Now, if someone out there (without providing another reference to a certain site) can PROVE the &quot;Glaciator&quot; to outperform the MC462-A...

I didn't think so.
 

$pade

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&quot;The MC462-A has been shown to be king, across all platforms, with all different CPUs, in any given fashion of testing.&quot;

I totally agree with you. Problem is things can change with the arrival of new products.

And if you are looking for proof I have found one review that shows the mg beating the 462 yet zero showing the 462 beating the mg.
 

Dulanic

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Sorry if I dont put much faith in your results, after all you have a chrome orb beating a super orb.... they both suck but there is no way in hell the chrome orb would win. And I just dont think the CAK38 would lose, especially by that much. There are plenty of other reviews that say thats its better.
 

ToBeMe

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To Many variables......I can tell you one thing I know for a fact, I replaced my PEP66 with a CAK38 and my temps. dropped 4C overall! :) I also had several FOP's and the CAK38's blew them away!;) But, I reiterate, there are so many variables with this, if I pulled them today I may get completely different results!
 

mikef208

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Well until we get more reviews, then we will not know which one is king. But it Switech cooler has had many reviews and is a proven winner in the market, where as the glaciator has had one reviewed by a company with a bias, so i don't think that qualifies it to be king. Also I just reread the overlockers.com review, can someone show me exactly where it says that it beats the switech, or are you just assuming it does cause he has lower temps for the Glaciator then what other sites do for the Switech.
 

Mikewarrior2

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Until people actually use a more accurate way of testing, then most of the reviews on the web are highly dubious in value. Just look at hardocp's last two major heatsink roundups... Even the ranking of heatsinks changed between teh two tests....

As far as the glaciator. Pabster, you were the one claiming that heatsink-thermocouple 'was the most accurate way to measure temps' a few weeks ago... What, you don't agree with temp measurement that way anymore? I know I personally don't, but you seemed so convinced it was &quot;THE&quot; way to measure temps...


Mike
 

$pade

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mikef208
read overclockers.com review of the 462 as well and then compare it with the glaciator review. note the iwill kk266 1.33 ghz tbird at 1.85 volt platform wich one of the common platform in both review, so u can directly compare those results. glaciator got .13 and 462 with 68cfm delta got .18. So u can see that the glaciator beats the swiftech according overclockers.com results.