Glen Beck: "Obama is a racist"

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Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: jbourne77
I wouldn't expect you to. One of us avoids broad, baseless generalizations, the other basques in them. I'm usually just happy knowing where we all stand; I'm not here to cure cancer ;) .
Interesting seeing that your attitude seems carcinogenic

Certainly a trait that is wholly my domain, eh ;)

It permeates from AM talk Shows and Cable News Shows. You just ratchet it up a notch with your fascination of group masturbation.

I haven't used my sock yet... want it?
 

cubeless

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: Athena
Originally posted by: Modelworks
It becomes bias when you do things related to that awareness that you would not have done otherwise. Like the recent comment about the police acting 'stupidly'.
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here. What is the "otherwise" in this case? There seem to be a fair number of law enforcement types who think Crowley should have left Gates stewing on his porch so how is the President's statement a indication of bias.

The thing that really gets me about this whole affair is that Obama did not voluntarily speak up/out about the incident. He was asked a question at a briefing and he said that he felt it was stupid for a policeman, having already determined that the person in question had a legal right to be there, should then arrest him for mouthing off. You may disagree with that but the fact that the President felt that way is not evidence of "bias" just because the person in question was black.

He didn't have all the facts , yet made a judgment based on his personal bias, that is where opinions come from, it is psych 101. He even admitted that himself. What he knew was that Gates was black and based on his experience blacks are mistreated, so he assumed something based on that belief. A belief influenced by his race. Nobody should fault him for that as nobody treats everyone equally.

I don't know all the facts.


I should say at the outset that Skip Gates is a friend, so I may be a little biased here

I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there is a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcing disproportionately. That's just a fact. . . .

and wtf does that quote have to do with the situation? the cops didn't pull him over for a busted taillamp. that is a pure bullshit diversion to pass the blame from him, the president of the united states, who has a little more responsibility not to 'act stupidly' than even a cop does, for a statement that shows that he thinks that it is just business as usual for cops to harass any but whites...
 

BMW540I6speed

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Gates is NOT a racist, period!...

Yeah, he acted like an asshole. He could have handled things differently. The cops were doing their job, but took it alittle to far arresting him. They did right hanging around to get a read on him and to make sure he WAS the primary and legal resident. The fact that there are inconsistencies between the police report speaks volumes. In the final analysis if Gates hadn't behaved like a belligerent asshole virtually from the moment he opened his door, this whole brouhaha would never have occurred.

But, Colin Powell said it best: "Once they felt they had to bring Dr. Gates out of the house and to handcuff him, I would've thought at that point, some adult supervision would have stepped in and said 'OK look, it is his house. Let's not take this any further, take the handcuffs off, good night Dr. Gates.' "

It ridiculous to see that racial bias is still so pernicious that the credibility of a world-famous Harvard personage whose acumen, professionalism, and personal character have been found to be in good standing, who is both well-regarded in his community and a respected scholar, is somehow trumped by that of a cop who no one knows anything about except for maybe a few, grasping details that only have been released as a defense tactic. And to see that Gates is still being hotly derided and belittled and villified, even when evidence comes out that the cop might be a little loose with facts...well, yeah, I'm going choose Racial Bias for $2000, Alex. That's the most parsimonious explanation.

Ive been to Harvard many times to visit a freind who studied law there. Harvard's Du Bois Center is not a "radical" assortment of crackpot sixties holdovers. It is a respected center for research on the African diaspora, and a racist nutjob couldn't run it.

People have vilified Gates, completely ignoring a career in the public eye, if the guy was a crackpot that screamed "RACISM!" every time something didn't go well, he wouldn't be as well-regarded as he is. He's not Ward Churchill. Gates publicly spoke well of Larry Summers, at a time where Summers had a very public spat with Cornel West, probably the most prominent Black scholar there next to Gates - and a friend of Gates' as well, and Summers had invoked the ire of virtually every community of color as well as women. Gates is not seen as a guy who'll get out front of an issue and rally the students; that's more how Allen Counter and Cornel West (when he was there) roll. That's not a dis, but just how he is. Shit, it would have to be at Harvard, right, where everyone eats caviar, spits at common folk, and has handservants at their beck and call

Forget about the stupidity associated with investigating a man for breaking into his own home and then arresting him for expressing displeasure and even (*gasp*) demanding to have the cop's name and badge number in a testy manner. if a white Harvard professor of Gate's celebrity had been arrested for essentially being a crotchedy old man, absent would be the pages upon pages of strenuous defenses on behalf of some beat cop. Of all things, that's what sticks out to me the most in Gates-gate. But since this thread is about the President, we?re now watching the ?beer summit? in an attempt to smooth over a political gaff.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
Gates is NOT a racist, period!...

Yeah, he acted like an asshole. He could have handled things differently. The cops were doing their job, but took it alittle to far arresting him. They did right hanging around to get a read on him and to make sure he WAS the primary and legal resident.

I think they should have cuffed him and placed him in the car until he calmed down and they could sort it out then they should have released him. I don't think arresting him and taking him to jail was necessary. It is fairly common to see cops cuff someone then place them in the car until things can be sorted out.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: cyclohexane
Originally posted by: spidey07
I've been saying this long before the Rev Wright thing blew up in his face. Look at his past, read his books and you will see he harbors very deep seated racists views.

Such as?

Don't talk out of your ass unless you can back it up.

Such as a hatred of white middle class America. Siding with a black activist over a police officer without all the facts (that should be enough right there). His wife's "For once I'm proud to be in America". and on and on. ACORN thugs, etc.

You're really a brainwashed idiot sometimes, yaknow that? WTF.