Giving Freebsd a try, using it as a dual boot. Anything i should know before hand?

[Nothinman]

I guess it isn't. It's probably one of those historical things that's been continued. I do like it though.

But I don't get what's to like, all it means for me is that now I have to run 'ifconfig -a' once to see what cards are in the box before I can f' with the settings. On Linux I always know that my first ethernet card is eth0. And because our firewalls are some bastardized version of BSDi it's a PITA to have to run 'ifconfig -a | less' to see what's there because some are exp# and some are em#.

I don't think I've gotten the attach code button in _this_ forum. I've seen it in software and forum issues, but not OS.

But in the same thread, not this one obviously though, I can click on reply and quote buttons and sometimes it'll come up and sometimes it won't. It's quite annoying.

Nothinman and I can shake our bitch'n'moan, or give each other crap and still agree we're better off than the Microsoft users.

It's a little like the enemy of my enemy is my friend, I may think Theo's an asshole but I'd rather deal with him than MS any day =)

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

I guess it isn't. It's probably one of those historical things that's been continued. I do like it though.

But I don't get what's to like, all it means for me is that now I have to run 'ifconfig -a' once to see what cards are in the box before I can f' with the settings. On Linux I always know that my first ethernet card is eth0. And because our firewalls are some bastardized version of BSDi it's a PITA to have to run 'ifconfig -a | less' to see what's there because some are exp# and some are em#.

Better planning can go a long way. I try and get the same chipsets. 3 of my systems would use fxp if OpenBSD was installed on them. The other uses the onboard, so I know that is vr0.

I guess if I added a gigabit card to one of them I'd have to deal with an odd designation, but I don't see that happening. 😉

I don't think I've gotten the attach code button in _this_ forum. I've seen it in software and forum issues, but not OS.

But in the same thread, not this one obviously though, I can click on reply and quote buttons and sometimes it'll come up and sometimes it won't. It's quite annoying.

Wierd. I don't pay much attention to it. It's usually useless. 😛

Nothinman and I can shake our bitch'n'moan, or give each other crap and still agree we're better off than the Microsoft users.

It's a little like the enemy of my enemy is my friend, I may think Theo's an asshole but I'd rather deal with him than MS any day =)

I was thinking more along the lines of: We respect each other's opinions, even if they differ from our own. But your explanation is fine too. 😛

Plus, atleast one of the goals of OpenBSD is similar in concept to Debian's: Free software. Only the definitions are different. 😉

 

[Nothinman]

Better planning can go a long way

Well this is like 5 different firewalls bought across like a 6 year time span, and recently they started only supporting their own hardware (i.e. sh!tty relabled Dells) so the only planning we can realy do is software-wise.

Wierd. I don't pay much attention to it. It's usually useless.

Yes, but it preserves formatting which was like 80% of my point about the dmesg snippets I posted.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Better planning can go a long way

Well this is like 5 different firewalls bought across like a 6 year time span, and recently they started only supporting their own hardware (i.e. sh!tty relabled Dells) so the only planning we can realy do is software-wise.

ew. Drop'em. Get some Nokia boxes running a bastardized FreeBSD. 😛

Wierd. I don't pay much attention to it. It's usually useless.

Yes, but it preserves formatting which was like 80% of my point about the dmesg snippets I posted.

Like I said, _usually_ useless. 😉

 

[Nothinman]

ew. Drop'em. Get some Nokia boxes running a bastardized FreeBSD.

Not gonna happen, it's not my decision and even if it was everyone already knows how to use them so switching would be a PITA. They're not really bad boxes, they've just got a lot of little annoyances =)

 

[djdrastic]

Errr Back on track

* The Firewalls in use on *BSD tend to be ipf/ ipfw
* F.BSD doesn't by default install bash , bash can be installed from pkg-src , ports or using sysinstall for those linux converts
* To update the locate.updatedb database you must specify the absolute path
/usr/libexec/locate.updatedb
*fbsd or bsd's in general use the wheel group grant grant general admin access to boxen
*FBSD's bootloader although much easier to live with than lilo / grub is a little dumb [:evil: Runs away from n0cmonkey]
*FBSD's terminal conf file it it /etc/ttys
*use the pkg_* tools , they will change your life when you start installing stuff
*rc.conf [and rc.local to a letter extent] is used to enable bootup programs / services
*disk names as you've seen from n0c's posts are much different than those in linux

 

[Nothinman]

*use the pkg_* tools , they will change your life when you start installing stuff

In a bad way, it's way too easy to end up with multiple versions of the same libraries and sh!t installed.

 

[drag]

Really. Linux rocks.

However the only thing better then Linux that I've actually used (including OS X) is FreeBSD's DOCUMENTATION. That stuff is great.

Just read it. It'll tell you everything that you need to know....

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: drag
Really. Linux rocks.

However the only thing better then Linux that I've actually used (including OS X) is FreeBSD's DOCUMENTATION. That stuff is great.

Just read it. It'll tell you everything that you need to know....

I swear there must be someone in a mental institution somewhere that _likes_ documentation and writes as much as he can for each BSD. 😕

(mental institution because it's wierd for someone to like doing documentation)

 

[uOpt]

I do multi-booting between Linu and FreeBSD with grub, loading FreeBSD through the chainloader.

It is simpler to use the plain FreeBSD bootsector selector, but it is not simpler to use the multi-stage FreeBSD mechanism. Although grub is sightly braindead in other things.

Here is my FreeBSD entry for grub:

title FreeBSD-current (of course no patches!)
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
chainloader +1

 

[Tbirdkid]

finally gave up on it. i couldnt get it to work right. so i went back to something i know a bit about and thats mandrake 10. im just messin around with it and everything works out of the box. great stuff. plus it also loads 3d drivers for my video card automatically. so its great now. linux is growing, and it will be awesome soon. therefore, i will dump ms for good and totally go away from using them forever.