Given Money to AIDS Research? You'd be surprised where its really going.

Texmaster

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AIDS research gets a TON of money every year from private donations, but it also gets our money, the taxpayers money in the US. And that money isn't all going for the research, its going to "how to have sex" programs and "flirting classes" in San Fransisco. Cheak the link for more detailed info, I've tried to clean it up a little. Another outlet for governemental aids money taged for research goes here:

On Feb. 28, 2002, the Stop AIDS Project of San Francisco, which received nearly $700,000 from the CDC in fiscal 2001, will sponsor "GUYWATCH: Blow by Blow." The advertisement for the seminar reads, in part: "What tricks do you want to share to make your man tremble with delight?"

Now I dont care if PRIVATE money is sponsoring this, but public money taged for Aids RESEARCH? Spare me please. The US people don't fund the Love Connection either.

A former bookkeeper at Central Florida AIDS Unified Resources (CENTAUR) was ordered to pay $600,000 in restitution on charges of embezzlement. Investigators say Corey White spent money on tickets to Disney World, hotels, and restaurants and sometimes had monthly credit card bills that were more than her $25,000 a year salary. CENTAUR serves as the area's CARE Act fiscal agent.7

In April 2001, The New York Post revealed New York City was spending nearly $180,000 a week ($9 million a year) on hotel rooms for HIV and AIDS patients. That month, the city had reserved 20 rooms at the Sofitel Hotel in Midtown Manhattan at $329 apiece. The Division of AIDS Services and Income Support (DASIS), which is responsible for the bookings, is legally obligated to place people with HIV and AIDS in hotels the day they apply for emergency housing. Advocates say DASIS must use the expensive hotels because it has ruined its relationship with lower-cost hotels by not paying bills on time. New York City received $52.6 million in HOPWA funding in fiscal 2001.8

Consider the following:

A May 2000 state audit of a Los Angeles AIDS service organization revealed that $21.8 million in federal housing grants for people with AIDS has accumulated since 1993 and still remained unspent. The audit also found $547,000 that had funded employees who provided services that were unrelated to AIDS. Michael Weinstein, president of the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, told the Associated Press, "The program is in shambles."80

According to a HUD audit, Travelers and Immigrants Aid of Chicago misused more than $20,000 in federal funds. The nonprofit, which received a $1.3 million HUD grant, sponsors the NextStep Program and runs the Rafael Center, a transitional center for homeless people with HIV and AIDS. The Center overcharged the federal government $10,920 for part of the salary of the program's executive director. The Center also spent $8,000 to buy meals for people who were not in the program.81

The non-profit Tampa Hillsborough Action Plan (THAP) gives its top executives plenty of perks despite its financial woes. THAP boss Chester M. Luney and THAP Chief Executive Officer Lynn Knox rang up nearly $1,000 in meal charges in a three-week period and were also afforded the use of sport utility vehicles. Mr. Luney received up to $45,000 a year annually for the maintenance of his. THAP's top executives also received four season tickets for Tampa Bay Bucaneers games and two season tickets for both the Tampa Bay Devil Rays and the Tampa Bay Lightning. Meanwhile, THAP owed nearly $25,000 in delinquent payroll taxes.82 THAP receives $450,000 a year from the federal government to provide housing to people with AIDS.83

In 1996, a HOPWA pilot program in Los Angeles came under fire because it had refused to evict AIDS patients from federal housing if they continued to use illicit drugs. Long-standing HUD policies require the expulsion of any public housing resident that continues such a habit.84


This is a clear misuse of funding desperately needed for AIDS research where political interests and plain greedy people are explioting the donations for their own personal use.

The problem is if anyone questions where the money is going or wants to clean up the mess they are a homophobe, bigot, right winged nut etc.

This is a serious problem that demands serious action. Some of these people need to be put in jail.





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<< The problem is if anyone questions where the money is going or wants to clean up the mess they are a homophobe, bigot, right winged nut etc. >>



That's it exactly. These programs are untouchable.

The cagw.org site does an excellent job of pointing out where the government wastes money.
 

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<< On Feb. 28, 2002, the Stop AIDS Project of San Francisco, which received nearly $700,000 from the CDC in fiscal 2001, will sponsor "GUYWATCH: Blow by Blow." The advertisement for the seminar reads, in part: "What tricks do you want to share to make your man tremble with delight?" >>





right i dont support homosexuals learning how to please each other.


*edit replaced a harsh word, seems people took offense although i still think my original word should be there, use your imagination
 

johnjohn320

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<< << On Feb. 28, 2002, the Stop AIDS Project of San Francisco, which received nearly $700,000 from the CDC in fiscal 2001, will sponsor "GUYWATCH: Blow by Blow." The advertisement for the seminar reads, in part: "What tricks do you want to share to make your man tremble with delight?">> >>





<< right i dont support faggots learning how to please each other >>



I agree that this isn't where the $$$ should be going, but

a) Who says it's about gay relationships, and not about women pleasing men?
b) Why is 'lovely human' considered so much more acceptable than 'great person'? They're both prejudice, hateful words, and you are a moron for using either.
 

Extrarius

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If we shot everybody with AIDS in the entire world and then made sure nobody had sex with the dead bodies, we wouldn't have AIDS anymore. I'd much rather do that than have tax money give things to homosexuals that many normal heterosexual dont recieve.
 

charrison

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johnjohn320,

>a) Who says it's about gay relationships, and not about women pleasing men?

It does not matter if this goes for "education" of hetero or homo couples, this should not be a govt program.
If you need help in that area, hire Dr Ruth for yourself.
 

Amused

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Tex, I see no problem with this at all. (besides the fact that I don't believe it should be publically funded, but that's another arguement.) The basis for these seminars is to promote safe(er) sex. You aren't going to get a good turn out by simply calling it a safe sex class. So they spice it up a bit. If I were to hold safe sex seminars, and wanted a good turn out and lots of attention, I'd do this as well.

As for housing, I agree. We shouldn't be providing housing for anyone... unless it's a private charity doing so.

As for expenses of fund executives, so what? The Red Cross's top exec gets somewhere around $300,000. You have to pay that much, or you'll lose good managment to the for-profit sector.
 

GTaudiophile

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<< that's why I dont donate a cent to aids research. >>



So. Looks like your hard-earned money is going to pay for this crap via tax payments.
 

FreshPrince

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I agree, that's not right...also, there will never be a cure for AIDS....treatment maybe. Cure? I don't think so.

 

Amused

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<< I agree, that's not right...also, there will never be a cure for AIDS....treatment maybe. Cure? I don't think so. >>



Why? In 20 years of AIDS reasearch, they've made amazing breakthroughs in viral therapy, including our first treatment for the flu... and there is much more to come.

Never say never.
 

SuperTool

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Seeing how Reagan blew it on AIDS, I don't think rightwingers should be consulted on AIDS research.
 

Mookow

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<< Seeing how Reagan blew it on AIDS, I don't think rightwingers should be consulted on AIDS research. >>



That has to be one of the dumbest statements I've ever seen on ATOT... and thats saying a lot.
 

SuperTool

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<< Seeing how Reagan blew it on AIDS, I don't think rightwingers should be consulted on AIDS research. >>



That has to be one of the dumbest statements I've ever seen on ATOT... and thats saying a lot.
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You are the dumbest person on ATOT, and that's saying alot.
Do you have a point to make?
 

Nocturnal

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lol blow by blow, i guess they're trying to feed ppl more aids. i guess they're trying to kill off the population by having ppl get more aids and have no cure... ever.

its a sad world we live in people. but here we go again, NAGT! (not another gay thread)

Peace!

What's your boggle?
 

Nocturnal

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i also started a thread about where the money was going to not too long ago. also why they havent found any break through research yet. oh well, thats life. i mean rich will just keep getting richer, and the poor will just keep getting poorer (metaphorically) hence my name.
 

Mookow

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<<

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<< Seeing how Reagan blew it on AIDS, I don't think rightwingers should be consulted on AIDS research. >>



That has to be one of the dumbest statements I've ever seen on ATOT... and thats saying a lot.
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You are the dumbest person on ATOT, and that's saying alot.
Do you have a point to make?
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Yes, I do. You took one person, Reagan, who is no longer in a position of power, and said because of what he did, a whole group of people should no longer be involved in a certain activity. Hmmm... if I made that type of generalization, and based it off another form of beliefs, like religion, that would make me a bigot. But you base it off political beliefs, and so you are "enlightened". Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
 

Nocturnal

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i think this is a excellent topic to talk over with my pol sci teacher on tuesday. ill bring it up in class.
 

SuperTool

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<< Yes, I do. You took one person, Reagan, who is no longer in a position of power, and said because of what he did, a whole group of people should no longer be involved in a certain activity. >>


So you admit Reagan blew it on AIDS? Because if you approve Reagan's failed AIDS policy, I don't think your opinion on the matter is worth much.
 

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This is why I cringe anytime I hear a politician like Ted Kennedy or Tom Daschle saying that they won't to revoke a tax cut or raise taxes or that THEY need more money for new government programs.

Well, if there wasn't so much waste involved in government programs, maybe you wouldn't need to jack my taxes up. Tax revenues are at an all time high for the government and they whine about how they don't have enough money for this program or that. Breaks my heart...wait, no...actually, its breaking my wallet.
 

Triumph

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<< I agree, that's not right...also, there will never be a cure for AIDS....treatment maybe. Cure? I don't think so. >>


There is a cure: Just don't contract it. If you do contract it (at least in this country) it's nobody's fault but your own.
 

Mookow

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<< Yes, I do. You took one person, Reagan, who is no longer in a position of power, and said because of what he did, a whole group of people should no longer be involved in a certain activity. >>


So you admit Reagan blew it on AIDS? Because if you approve Reagan's failed AIDS policy, I don't think your opinion on the matter is worth much.
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I actually dont know Reagan's AIDS policy since I was under 8 for the entirety of his Presidency. However, I can guess that it was either: a)stop having sex, stop being gay, and AIDS will go away, or b) AIDS? what AIDS? I would disagree with either of those policies. That said, I see you chose to ignore the rest of my post.

BTW, my roommate laughed at your name. He told me to pass that along.
 

johnjohn320

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<< johnjohn320,

>a) Who says it's about gay relationships, and not about women pleasing men?

It does not matter if this goes for "education" of hetero or homo couples, this should not be a govt program.
If you need help in that area, hire Dr Ruth for yourself.
>>



No duh, that's what I said.



<< I agree that this isn't where the $$$ should be going, but

a) Who says it's about gay relationships, and not about women pleasing men?
b) Why is 'lovely human' considered so much more acceptable than 'great person'? They're both prejudice, hateful words, and you are a moron for using either
>>

Remember?



<< If we shot everybody with AIDS in the entire world and then made sure nobody had sex with the dead bodies, we wouldn't have AIDS anymore. I'd much rather do that than have tax money give things to homosexuals that many normal heterosexual dont recieve. >>



I hope something runs over you.