Give me a good reason to buy an Athlon instead of an Intel

[vagnermarks]

AMD is getting a great part of the market, of course. But Intel is one of the most important company around the world and has more than 70% of the market. Your products have unquestionable value, aren´t they ? Well, it doesn´t mean that AMD is not one of the most success company. AMD´s created solutions that are better than Intel and we can see it nowadays. So, why I should buy an Athlon instead of an Intel PC?

If you are going to visit all forums around the world you can see that your users are talking always about Athlon; at least the majority of them.

Why this is happening? May I think that Intel is for business solution and Athlon is just for final user? Or it is because we can find a good cost and benefit for Athlons?

Give me a good reason to have an Athlon in my home !
What your experience could tell me ?


Thanks

 

[SLCentral]

That was one hard ass thing to read.

Athlon > Intel because for most things, AMD kills Intel performance wise, and their price point is good as well.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: vagnermarks
AMD is getting a great part of the market, of course. But Intel is one of the most important company around the world and has more than 70% of the market. Your products have unquestionable value, aren´t they ? Well, it doesn´t mean that AMD is not one of the most success company. AMD´s created solutions that are better than Intel and we can see it nowadays. So, why I should buy an Athlon instead of an Intel PC?

If you are going to visit all forums around the world you can see that your users are talking always about Athlon; at least the majority of them.

Why this is happening? May I think that Intel is for business solution and Athlon is just for final user? Or it is because we can find a good cost and benefit for Athlons?

Give me a good reason to have an Athlon in my home !
What your experience could tell me ?


Thanks

You answered your own question.

[*]Cooler
[*]Quieter
[*]Faster

May I think that Intel is for business solution and Athlon is just for final user?

You can, but you probably wouldn't be entirely correct. Companies are adopting Opterons.

Link

Although the discussion above applies to desktop motherboard shipments, AMD also appears to be doing quite well in the server market. We spoke to one server motherboard manufacturer whose current shipments are 90% AMD platforms and only 10% Intel platforms. We were absolutely shocked by these statistics, but it seems that most of the Intel server motherboards are being shipped by Supermicro with manufacturers like iWill and Tyan focusing much more on AMD.

 

[shoRunner]

well i depends on what your using it for....so what will you be using it for?

 

[Lonyo]

Why you should buy AMD:
Single core/CPU
Overall cost of the platform for a single core single CPU system is cheaper. (DDR2 price premium puts the cost of an Intel system slightly higher than an AMD system, but only slightly).
An AMD system will generally outperform a similarly priced Intel system.
The fastest AMD system is generally quite a lot faster than the fastest Intel system.
AMD processors run cooler and consume less power than equivelant Intel processors.

Dual core/single CPU
AMD dual core CPU's are faster than Intel ones generally.
AMD dual core CPU's tend to run cooler and produce less heat than Intels.
But they are more expensive than Intel dual core systems, in the main. (Except the 4800+/Pentium D 840EE which are equal in price)
Many users already have socket 939 motherboards, which means they can use their existing setup and just upgrade the processor to a dual core one.

Multiple CPU's (and cores)
Well, not really appropriate for general use.
Both Intel and AMD have good offerings.
AMD and Intel are both fairly decent in terms of performance (Intel wins some, AMD others IIRC).
AMD wins again on heat/power, but Intel are releasing Blade servers with Dothan processors IIRC.

That's about all I can think of for now.

 

[UsandThem]

I don't think this question has ever been asked before.....................oh wait, yes it has.

 

[dguy6789]

AMD makes faster and less expensive processors than Intel. There is no other reason than that.

The ONLY reason ANYONE(that knows what they are doing) would buy an Intel based processor nowadays is if they are planning on using a program that happens to perform better on an Intel solution.

AMD processors do more for less. Why pay more money for something that does less? It doesn't get anymore simple than that.

The thread should be: Give me a good reason to buy an Intel instead of AMD.

 

[keeleysam]

AMD > Intel

 

[sandorski]

Going Intel just because of Marketshare is kinda wonky thinking. If AMD was about to go under, then there might be a reason not to go AMD, but they are not in that position.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Click the CPU tab at the top of this page. Read The Friendly Articles.

 

[UsandThem]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Click the CPU tab at the top of this page. Read The Friendly Articles.

:thumbsup::beer:

 

[sumuk]

Here is one article which compares AMD & Intel.

http://www.cheapest-computer-hardware-software.com/AMD-Athlon-64-FX.html

Regards

 

[Duvie]

I think the obvious answer is, if the herdware forums full of technohiles that make it their business to know the figures well beyond what the avergae consumer will are pro-AMD, then the answer is the better cpu is the AMD....at the moment...

INtel has enough idiots, morons, uneducted, sodomites (I mean DELLites) to buy cpus...buy the way the celeron is like the number 1 selling desktop cpu if that doesn't tell you how smart ppl are or how much emphasis they put into pricing.....



Lonyo....

4400+ lays a smack down on the 840XE as well as the 840 non XE...It is equal in price to the non XE amnd 1/2 as expesive as the XE...the 4200+ still beats both cpus in majority...
Intel looks cheaper cause they know they got killed in performance and our selling a weaker cpu (in some areas 30-60% weaker for the 820) at a price to move...AMD's lowest X2 beats INtel,s best cpu...AMDs lowest cpu beats INtels worst cpu by huge margins....

 

[MobiusPizza]

Originally posted by: vagnermarks
Give me good reasons to buy an Athlon instead of an Intel

fixed
Not just one reason

Disclaimer:
No fanboism induced

Reasons in summary:

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• ?AMD Better price/performance ratio (including cost of motherboard + memory [DDR is still cheaper than DDR2])

• ?AMD CPU has much better performance on SIMILARILY priced CPUs of Intel (in games, scientific applications, WinRAR, CG editing) except in the encoding department

• ?Athlon64 have much less heat than Pentium 4 Prescotts, hence quieter and potentially more stable

• ?Athlon CPUs on average overclocks better

• ?Athlon64's 64bit implementation is more elegant than Intel's (performance wise)
  (If you want link I can provide you)

No we don't want another flame war
If you have read enough benchmarks you should have the answer
All benchmarks in recent years I've seen are recommending Athlon processors. They of course have a reason.

 

[fatty4ksu]

The pentium d 820 is a FANTASTIC buy for 25o dollars

 

[Zepper]

You almost always get more bang for your buck with AMD. But there are situations where Intel might be called for even if it costs more. It has been difficult to find true ECC memory support on the AMD side (except on multiprocessor mobos). So if you have a mission-critical financial, scientific or server application, you may want to go Intel, etc.

.bh.

 

[dbk]

performance/price ratio

 

[Sforsyth]

Because if you don't everyone here is going to make fun of you

 

[bob4432]

not this thread again, hey noob vagnermarks, use the search function and read and make your own decisions. a very basic summary - if you encode video then intel, if you game then amd, if you like to save money and get a good bang for the buck amd.

and i am not a amd fanboy(look at current rig in sig), as you will see most others here on the board are a "best bang for the buck" fanboy

 

[Cheesetogo]

I think part of the question was also "Why does intel own 70% of the market if amd is better?"

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
I think part of the question was also "Why does intel own 70% of the market if amd is better?"

because of the marketing that intel does and has ,most of the oems in their hand

 

[UsandThem]

Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
I think part of the question was also "Why does intel own 70% of the market if amd is better?"

Is the same way why Sears controls the largest percentage of appliance market. Good advertising and repeat customers. People think Kenmore products are superior to other brands.

When in fact, they are rebadged Whirlpool and Frigidaire products (with a few others littered around).

AMD = Intel. No more, no less. It is not like the old days (K-6) when Intel spanked AMD. Ever since the K7 and AMD's 761 chipset which was stable as hell, it has been very equal ground.

They both have strengths and weaknesses. They are both stable, fast, and both are very good.

If you want a poor performing CPU today, just go get a VIA CPU (Cyrix).

 

[biostud]

those who buy chips and build computers in huge amount, are very conservative. It would be very expensive to change their whole production line and switching from one chip maker to another.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Lonyo....

4400+ lays a smack down on the 840XE as well as the 840 non XE...It is equal in price to the non XE amnd 1/2 as expesive as the XE...the 4200+ still beats both cpus in majority...
Intel looks cheaper cause they know they got killed in performance and our selling a weaker cpu (in some areas 30-60% weaker for the 820) at a price to move...AMD's lowest X2 beats INtel,s best cpu...AMDs lowest cpu beats INtels worst cpu by huge margins....

I said generally because it's not better in every case. For some users, the things the 840 is good for are more important than the things the 4200+ is good for see here.
All depends on what you want to do, which is why you can never conclusively say AMD Athlon 64's or X2's are better than P4's or PD's, because there's always the odd chance a user may need the CPU to do the one or two things Intel are still (just) better at



Intel always used to be top dog, and that's all everyone sees now, the name, which is why Intel is still a lot more popular than AMD in the miainstream markets

 

[piroroadkill]

First off, it'd be "Give me a good reason to buy an Athlon instead of a Pentium" or better.. "Give me a good reason to buy an AMD instead of an Intel".

Second, it almost depends on what you use the computer for, but in almost every case, AMD wins. Also, Athlon 64's run a lot cooler than Prescotts, which is a major point of consideration.

I couldn't recommend a Pentium 4 to anyone in almost all circumstances.

All the machines I currently run have Intel processors, but that's not to say they are the best choice anymore; far from it.