Girl With 22 Piercings Cries Discrimination

[nehalem256]

Calling this girl a "loser" because she has piercings is pretty lame guys. That doesn't mean I would hire hire for just any job.

How dare we criticize people for making stupid choices!!!

 

[cubby1223]

The reality is, if she sticks to who she is, she will eventually find her place in the world and have a better career than most conservatives.

In the end it will come down to work skills and ethic. If you have it, you will succeed. If not, then it will be a struggle.

 

[MrPickins]

The tag made me lol. :thumbsup:

As for the article, the girl made a choice to look like a "freak", she should have no expectations that potential employers would treat her as anything else.

The reality is, if she sticks to who she is, she will eventually find her place in the world and have a better career than most conservatives.

In the end it will come down to work skills and ethic. If you have it, you will succeed. If not, then it will be a struggle.

Based on my experience, she'll end up working at a sandwich or coffee shop.

 

[werepossum]

Paraphrase - "A reasonable man conforms himself to the world's expectations, an unreasonable man conforms the world to his expectations. All progress therefore, depends upon the unreasonable man"

Edited - quotation

That's a good point, but this young lady isn't interested in progress. She is interested in being a non-conformist whilst retaining the benefits of conformism.

"You see, Kendra, we look for employees who send the message that we are capable, intelligent, responsible people suitable for mutually beneficial business ventures. You would send the message that we drink heavily and carelessly handle nail guns."

EDIT: Also reminds me of the old joke about the business man staring at the rainbow-dyed, multiply-pierced non-conformist who, when accused of being an old fogey, replies "Hey, I've done my share of crazy stuff. In fact, twenty years ago I was really drunk and on a $20 bet I climbed the fence into the zoo and fucked a peacock. Now I'm wondering if you're my kid."

 

[Texashiker]

That's a good point, but this young lady isn't interested in progress. She is interested in being a non-conformist whilst retaining the benefits of conformism.

She is interested in furthering the rights of the entitlement generation.

They are entitled to a job, regardless of how they dress.

They are entitled to a good paying job, regardless if they have a useless degree.

They are entitled to everything society has to offer, regardless of how little they contribute.

 

[IGemini]

100% relevant, even 15 years later:

When did shrapnel become a fashion accessory?

 

[nehalem256]

That's a good point, but this young lady isn't interested in progress. She is interested in being a non-conformist whilst retaining the benefits of conformism.

Which isn't surprising given that she is being "non-conformist" in exactly the same way as 1000s of other people.

So, she doesn't even bring the advantages of a real con-conformist that might actually bring new original ideas to an organization.

 

[Orignal Earl]

People like you helped create this generation, so deal with it.

Almost as bad as that Buddy Holly, what with his long hair and singing black folk music

 

[nehalem256]

Almost as bad as that Buddy Holly, what with his long hair and singing black folk music

Long hair?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Long hair?

You don't see how radically long he kept it on top?
You whippersnappers these days...

 

[shortylickens]

 

[Oldgamer]

Jeesh why all the hate toward this girl in this thread, wow..

 

[trenchfoot]

She's standing her ground on a bed of quicksand. She's young and have lots of time to learn the hard way that nobody's going to toss her a rope if she insists that throwing a flailing stomping hissy fit over her right to have a hissy fit in that bed of quicksand is constitutionally protected.

Well, somebody might toss her a rope....but then she'd probably tie her end of it around her neck and yell "OK! Jerk me out'a here!"

 

[alzan]

That's a good point, but this young lady isn't interested in progress. She is interested in being a non-conformist whilst retaining the benefits of conformism.

"You see, Kendra, we look for employees who send the message that we are capable, intelligent, responsible people suitable for mutually beneficial business ventures. You would send the message that we drink heavily and carelessly handle nail guns."

EDIT: Also reminds me of the old joke about the business man staring at the rainbow-dyed, multiply-pierced non-conformist who, when accused of being an old fogey, replies "Hey, I've done my share of crazy stuff. In fact, twenty years ago I was really drunk and on a $20 bet I climbed the fence into the zoo and fucked a peacock. Now I'm wondering if you're my kid."

I was speaking of progress more in the terms of not judging a book by it's cover; assessing and valuing a person based on their character and not on their looks. Whether this young woman has such lofty minded goals or whether she has an "have her cake and eat it too" mentality can only be discerned by talking with her.

Like I said in my original post, I mostly agree with a given companies stance on dress codes and employee conduct when they are in public facing positions; a significant portion of a companies personnel do their work behind the scenes.

 

[DrPizza]

I occasionally discuss this with high school students. Go ahead, express your individuality by dying your hair purple or smurf colored. You can always dye it back. In the real world, there's a thing called "first impressions." People are judged on first impressions. Is it fair? No, snowflake, it isn't fair. But, that's the way it is. Not recognizing how the real world operates, and covering your face with hardware is indicative of poor decision making skills. If you think, "I'm going to dye my hair purple, and put a big 1" hole in each of my ears, and put chains from my ear lobes to my pierced septum, and if a company doesn't want to fire someone who looks like that, then fuck them, I wouldn't want to work for them" is good decision making, well then, you're in for a steep learning curve when you enter the real world. Tattoos on your neck and face?? Don't be an idiot. They're fairly permanent, and you're permanently ensuring that at least 2 generations of adults are going to have a negative first impression of you. First impressions are hard to overcome.

 

[waggy]

shrug. if she walked into my business with 22 piercing i would put her application into the garbage.

 

[smackababy]

Technically, it is discrimination. However, being "alternative" isn't a protected class, so no employer isn't going to discriminate.

I agree that the type of employee you are isn't determined by the what you you look like, but businesses are free to choose who represents their company and it's best interest. If it was a customer service position, I'd be perfectly fine with them not hiring her. I don't want to look at her ugly (and pierced) face while I eat. In fact, all ugly people should be forced into positions that don't interact with customers. Ugly and only possess the skills to wait tables? Too bad. Shouldn't have gotten that art degree.

 

[Strk]

Am I missing something or does it never mention her qualifications, jobs she applied to or even how she presents herself? I know some people can't get past the latter, but I don't feel it is that important.

 

[mikeymikec]

Seriously though, she is just another in a long list of social outcasts demanding that everyone pay attention to them.

Yeah, nothing says "attention seeker" like wanting a job.

Unless someone can show me research showing conclusively that people with "too many piercings" cause workplace problems such as falling down flights of stairs because the shiny shiny piercings were simply too distracting, I say bullshit.

Employers should employ dress codes appropriate to the circumstances, not according to their personal tastes.

Even in a customer facing role, only a complete idiot is going to think "OMG! This person has too many piercings, I'm in fear of my ...." or whatever.

The topic of stupid dress codes reminds me of my first almost-serious job, database development (almost serious because I was still at college at the time). The employer insisted that everyone wear a shirt and tie to do this job, and a customer might visit the office maybe three times a year. I was once asked to take off my roll-neck jumper on a freezing cold January so that I could be seen to be following the dress code.

shrug. if she walked into my business with 22 piercing i would put her application into the garbage.

Is your business routinely testing extremely powerful electromagnets?

 

[boomerang]

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/holey-moley-german-man-takes-body-art-level-article-1.1796231

 

[nehalem256]

Technically, it is discrimination. However, being "alternative" isn't a protected class, so no employer isn't going to discriminate.

I agree that the type of employee you are isn't determined by the what you you look like, but businesses are free to choose who represents their company and it's best interest. If it was a customer service position, I'd be perfectly fine with them not hiring her. I don't want to look at her ugly (and pierced) face while I eat. In fact, all ugly people should be forced into positions that don't interact with customers. Ugly and only possess the skills to wait tables? Too bad. Shouldn't have gotten that art degree.

And unlike garden variety ugly people she doesn't deserve pity. She went to great effort to make herself look as ugly as possible.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I occasionally discuss this with high school students. Go ahead, express your individuality by dying your hair purple or smurf colored. You can always dye it back. In the real world, there's a thing called "first impressions." People are judged on first impressions. Is it fair? No, snowflake, it isn't fair. But, that's the way it is. Not recognizing how the real world operates, and covering your face with hardware is indicative of poor decision making skills. If you think, "I'm going to dye my hair purple, and put a big 1" hole in each of my ears, and put chains from my ear lobes to my pierced septum, and if a company doesn't want to fire someone who looks like that, then fuck them, I wouldn't want to work for them" is good decision making, well then, you're in for a steep learning curve when you enter the real world. Tattoos on your neck and face?? Don't be an idiot. They're fairly permanent, and you're permanently ensuring that at least 2 generations of adults are going to have a negative first impression of you. First impressions are hard to overcome.

:thumbsup: This is one of the reasons why I have no piercings or tattoos. I think they're ridiculous anyway.

 

[iGas]

si fueris Rōmae, Rōmānō vīvitō mōre; si fueris alibī, vīvitō sicut ibi (“if you should be in Rome, live in the Roman manner; if you should be elsewhere, live as they do there&#8221

 

[iGas]

I occasionally discuss this with high school students. Go ahead, express your individuality by dying your hair purple or smurf colored. You can always dye it back. In the real world, there's a thing called "first impressions." People are judged on first impressions. Is it fair? No, snowflake, it isn't fair. But, that's the way it is. Not recognizing how the real world operates, and covering your face with hardware is indicative of poor decision making skills. If you think, "I'm going to dye my hair purple, and put a big 1" hole in each of my ears, and put chains from my ear lobes to my pierced septum, and if a company doesn't want to fire someone who looks like that, then fuck them, I wouldn't want to work for them" is good decision making, well then, you're in for a steep learning curve when you enter the real world. Tattoos on your neck and face?? Don't be an idiot. They're fairly permanent, and you're permanently ensuring that at least 2 generations of adults are going to have a negative first impression of you. First impressions are hard to overcome.

I agree and often say the same thing to my nieces and nephews since they were little.

I often ask them, how many professionals and TV personals that they see have tattoos or piercing to ones that don't. Hence, if they want to have a good first impression, respect, and job then they must do as the Romans do.

That said. The same mentality should also apply to how we treat other cultures when we visit their countries. Perhaps they would welcome us if we do as they do when we visit their countries, instead of bringing death and violent, because we want to change their way of life to conform to the West.

 

[Zaap]

She is a loser for expecting her self expression to be accepted into a business - and then crying discrimination because it isn't.

Her face piercings aren't anything like religious attire or practices that are recognized, so, she can go fuck herself.

Wait....are you actually making sense????

Or is it just that common sense, reason and logic are so completely alien to you that those things are *always* sarcasm to you?

I seriously can't tell.