Girl I worked with mugged last night from NOLA refugees

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Stumps
what I don't get is when 9/11 happened the Response was awesome, even though many of the brave firey's perished in the collaspe they were still there helping as it happened, everybody who could help was there.
I watched the rescue effort on TV all the way across the pacific, I have a massive respect for those in NYC.
Now I turn on TV and all I see is the Violence and carnage of what is happening in NO, what the hell happened in those 4 years to go from such heroics to not much better than watching animals fighting over scraps of meat?

It is hardly comparable though.

See with 9/11, it was a direct attack on our country. It was a attack against our national pride, a test against our patriotism. We had firefighters and policemen risking their lives to rescue victims of an assault. There was no warning. It wasn't natural.

But with New Orleans, this disaster happened because of stupidity. The hurricane was just a nuisance. The real problem happened be 1. people refused to evacuate and 2. the governor and mayor did not update the dikes even when they knew they were due to fail. Then the whole communication gap between mayor -> governor -> president. Mayor was asking for help, and the governor didn't want federal assistance. Then while water was rising you got people looting which is not how you get sympathy from the rest of the nation. And then prisoners are let go, which is sure way to make the whole situation much more dangerous to the rescue operations.

There is nothing heroic in the NOLA rescue because situation was completely self-inflicted.

couldnt agree more

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: deathkoba

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Stumps
what I don't get is when 9/11 happened the Response was awesome, even though many of the brave firey's perished in the collaspe they were still there helping as it happened, everybody who could help was there.
I watched the rescue effort on TV all the way across the pacific, I have a massive respect for those in NYC.
Now I turn on TV and all I see is the Violence and carnage of what is happening in NO, what the hell happened in those 4 years to go from such heroics to not much better than watching animals fighting over scraps of meat?

It is hardly comparable though.

See with 9/11, it was a direct attack on our country. It was a attack against our national pride, a test against our patriotism. We had firefighters and policemen risking their lives to rescue victims of an assault. There was no warning. It wasn't natural.

But with New Orleans, this disaster happened because of stupidity. The hurricane was just a nuisance. The real problem happened be 1. people refused to evacuate and 2. the governor and mayor did not update the dikes even when they knew they were due to fail. Then the whole communication gap between mayor -> governor -> president. Mayor was asking for help, and the governor didn't want federal assistance. Then while water was rising you got people looting which is not how you get sympathy from the rest of the nation. And then prisoners are let go, which is sure way to make the whole situation much more dangerous to the rescue operations.

There is nothing heroic in the NOLA rescue because situation was completely self-inflicted.

Sorry man but that is a load of crap. You only think that because you were outside of the whole situation watching the news who constantly chanted that it was a direct attack on the US from terrorists. If you were in the situation at hand, you would think absolutely nothing other than survival of yourself and loved ones instead of being some patriotic hero. I don't buy that bullsh*t not one bit.

just because you are selfish doesnt mean others are so. I had friends living in NYC when the planes hit. first thing they did was to rush to the scene to help out in any way possible

 

[ColdFusion718]

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: dug777
filthy fvckin assholes...i really hate people sometimes

i hope they die of cancer...of the ass :|

LOL

what I don't get is when 9/11 happened the Response was awesome, even though many of the brave firey's perished in the collaspe they were still there helping as it happened, everybody who could help was there.
I watched the rescue effort on TV all the way across the pacific, I have a massive respect for those in NYC.
Now I turn on TV and all I see is the Violence and carnage of what is happening in NO, what the hell happened in those 4 years to go from such heroics to not much better than watching animals fighting over scraps of meat?

 

[Compton]

I used to live in Baton Rouge and I'm damned glad I don't anymore. There have been crimes due to the refugee thugs that have moved into my part of the state. The local officials are all spinning it saying there has been "no dramatic increase in crime". Yeah, whatever.

 

[ZOOYUKA]

Originally posted by: Compton
I used to live in Baton Rouge and I'm damned glad I don't anymore. There have been crimes due to the refugee thugs that have moved into my part of the state. The local officials are all spinning it saying there has been "no dramatic increase in crime". Yeah, whatever.

I live there and there is no apparent problem with thugs. The biggest problem as I have stated before is that city very crowded.

 

[jpeyton]

I know I keep my rent money with me when I go out at 3AM for groceries.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I know I keep my rent money with me when I go out at 3AM for groceries.

Typical liberal response....blame the victim. I guess you think the behavior of the thugs was acceptable considering the circmumstances, huh?

 

[Mo0o]

human trash

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: Compton
I used to live in Baton Rouge and I'm damned glad I don't anymore. There have been crimes due to the refugee thugs that have moved into my part of the state. The local officials are all spinning it saying there has been "no dramatic increase in crime". Yeah, whatever.

I live there and there is no apparent problem with thugs. The biggest problem as I have stated before is that city very crowded.

But it's so much more fun to spread rumor and totally ignore the people who have personal experience with the situation! :roll:
The idiots on this forum see and hear what they want to, regardless of facts.

 

[AkumaX]

sh!t.. that sucks.. i bet some people are going to exercise their 2nd amendment rights...

 

[yourdeardaniel]

this is the reason why people should be allow you to carry guns for protection
shoot those mofo's

 

[MX2]

Originally posted by: dug777
filthy fvckin assholes...i really hate people sometimes

i hope they die of cancer...of the ass :|

I could not have said it better :thumbsup:

 

[conjur]

$20 they weren't evacuees but, rather, pretending to be to lower her guard.


Sucks that it happenend.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I know I keep my rent money with me when I go out at 3AM for groceries.

Typical liberal response....blame the victim. I guess you think the behavior of the thugs was acceptable considering the circmumstances, huh?

Did I blame the victim? She was going to get mugged either way, if she had the money or not. I'm just saying it was kind of silly for her to carry around her rent money in cash in the middle of the night, that's all.

Bank and credit cards are covered against fraud. Cash isn't.

 

[Rebasxer]

I doubt they were local muggers, if they were, they would have mugged her straight up, not asked if she could give them some money. The muggers saw that she wasn't gonna give them anything and took the money probably out of a combination of cruelty, stupidity and desperation. There needs to be a shot on the spot law for any NOLA refugee caught breaking a major law.

As for 9/11, there is some comparison there. After 9/11, people who had lost immediatly wanted to help those that they could, and everyone else in America wanted to help them. With Katrina, Americans still want to help the victims, while those that have lost want to sit around and bitch at the government.

 

[mrchan]

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
okay if she files a police report, atleast in teh state of CA she wouldtn have to pay for ER bills if she was mugged or or something..

Really? Do you have a link to more info?

 

[randalee]

Originally posted by: Stumps
what I don't get is when 9/11 happened the Response was awesome, even though many of the brave firey's perished in the collaspe they were still there helping as it happened, everybody who could help was there.
I watched the rescue effort on TV all the way across the pacific, I have a massive respect for those in NYC.
Now I turn on TV and all I see is the Violence and carnage of what is happening in NO, what the hell happened in those 4 years to go from such heroics to not much better than watching animals fighting over scraps of meat?

The difference is that these people we're seeing on TV are people who are "VICTIMS". "I'm a victim!" "These people are dying and it's all YOUR FAULT!" "Who's going to pay my bills!?"

Most self-respecting people are picking themselves up by the bootstraps and pulling themselves out of the disaster. They are the survivors. Many that we see are VICTIMS -- EXPECTING a free handout and someone to take care of them.

 

[ironcrotch]

Originally posted by: randalee

Originally posted by: Stumps
what I don't get is when 9/11 happened the Response was awesome, even though many of the brave firey's perished in the collaspe they were still there helping as it happened, everybody who could help was there.
I watched the rescue effort on TV all the way across the pacific, I have a massive respect for those in NYC.
Now I turn on TV and all I see is the Violence and carnage of what is happening in NO, what the hell happened in those 4 years to go from such heroics to not much better than watching animals fighting over scraps of meat?

The difference is that these people we're seeing on TV are people who are "VICTIMS". "I'm a victim!" "These people are dying and it's all YOUR FAULT!" "Who's going to pay my bills!?"

Most self-respecting people are picking themselves up by the bootstraps and pulling themselves out of the disaster. They are the survivors. Many that we see are VICTIMS -- EXPECTING a free handout and someone to take care of them.

QFT^eleventybagillion

 

[Compton]

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: Compton
I used to live in Baton Rouge and I'm damned glad I don't anymore. There have been crimes due to the refugee thugs that have moved into my part of the state. The local officials are all spinning it saying there has been "no dramatic increase in crime". Yeah, whatever.

I live there and there is no apparent problem with thugs. The biggest problem as I have stated before is that city very crowded.

But it's so much more fun to spread rumor and totally ignore the people who have personal experience with the situation! :roll:
The idiots on this forum see and hear what they want to, regardless of facts.

I didn't say there was a thug situation in BR. I said I'm glad I don't live there anymore. But where I'm at now, there have been several incidents. And believe it or not, it is possible that I have witnessed some of these incidents myself.

But like you said, the idiots on this forum see and hear what they want to. Whatever.

 

[arcenite]

That kind of sh!t really pisses me off. Goddamn people have no respect for one another especially during a motherf!cking time like this. I hope those motherf!ckers get hit by a bus. At two separate times.

 

[CocoGdog]

Hand gun and rifle sales were up 1000% at shops in LA because of hurricane "refugees." People are buying guns in droves to protect themselves from this kind of activity. Shops that sold 10 guns a week, now sell 500 p/w and can't keep up with the demand from local residents. --also $300 at 3am in the morning shopping?? thats like wearing a mini-skirt and walking through Central Park after dark...

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: dug777
filthy fvckin assholes...i really hate people sometimes

i hope they die of cancer...of the ass :|

LOL

what I don't get is when 9/11 happened the Response was awesome, even though many of the brave firey's perished in the collaspe they were still there helping as it happened, everybody who could help was there.
I watched the rescue effort on TV all the way across the pacific, I have a massive respect for those in NYC.
Now I turn on TV and all I see is the Violence and carnage of what is happening in NO, what the hell happened in those 4 years to go from such heroics to not much better than watching animals fighting over scraps of meat?

One word: fear

Everyone has lived in fear since that time. None of the victims are willing to act civil.

 

[SludgeFactory]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
It is hardly comparable though.

See with 9/11, it was a direct attack on our country. It was a attack against our national pride, a test against our patriotism. We had firefighters and policemen risking their lives to rescue victims of an assault. There was no warning. It wasn't natural.

But with New Orleans, this disaster happened because of stupidity. The hurricane was just a nuisance. The real problem happened be 1. people refused to evacuate and 2. the governor and mayor did not update the dikes even when they knew they were due to fail. Then the whole communication gap between mayor -> governor -> president. Mayor was asking for help, and the governor didn't want federal assistance. Then while water was rising you got people looting which is not how you get sympathy from the rest of the nation. And then prisoners are let go, which is sure way to make the whole situation much more dangerous to the rescue operations.

There is nothing heroic in the NOLA rescue because situation was completely self-inflicted.

These constant comparisons to 9/11 are a joke. If a million people in Brooklyn or the Bronx had been forced out of their homes that day, you would have seen some crazy sh!t there too. Let alone the entire metro area have to be evacuated and absorbed into the surrounding communities and states, which is essentially what happened to the NOLA metro area. The dregs of society are present in every major city in this country, when the apocalypse comes to your town they'll be ready to party.

And it's also pathetic that this whole thing has become labeled in the public's mind as only involving extremely poor & elderly people, welfare queens, and scum human predators. A lot of people from all different walks of life lost their homes and most of their worldly possessions, and most of them are middle class.

The truth is, the overwhelming majority of southeast Louisiana residents left town ahead of time, never made the news, don't loot, and aren't in shelters, nor are they among the certain percentage of shelter-dwellers who are currently wearing out their welcome in said shelters.