Girl gets kicked out of mall for wearing a dress she got there the day before

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TheVrolok

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As poorly spoken as she is .. for the most part. She's right. "People can walk in a mall and have "I hate God" on 'em and that offends me and other people and no one does anything about it." - Clem. It's true. This is absolutely absurd, that dress isn't even remotely "bad."


Obligatory: Sure, I'd hit it, why not?
 

Turin39789

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Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: seemingly random
She does indeed have a kentucky accent - I used to live there. She may have a lisp and/or she may have a pierced tongue.

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This isn't a lot different from the woman who was harassed by southwest airlines last year. I never did hear if she got any money from anyone.

That's not a normal kentucky accent.
 

preslove

Lifer
Sep 10, 2003
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There is no way in fucking hell that that dress broke any formal clothing policy. If the owners of that business have any sense then they'll fire that idiot of security guard and apologize to and give some kind of gift card to an obviously valuable customer. The girl goes to the mall every day, apparently. Treating a customer like that idiotic in the extreme.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: Injury


Yes, I'm THAT bored.

The show the dress later in the news report and it doesn't look but 5-10 inches from her knees. The problem is that she's holding the dress against herself and not actually wearing it.

That's about par for the course in terms of mall wear.
 

compman25

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On the news last night one of the stations went to the store she got it from and the store claimed it wasn't a dress but was a shirt.
 

stag3

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they need to ban fat chicks who wear spandex to the mall
we need more girls with summer dresses walking around
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: compman25
On the news last night one of the stations went to the store she got it from and the store claimed it wasn't a dress but was a shirt.

whut? The store should be closed down since they don't even know what they sell.
 
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Originally posted by: compman25
On the news last night one of the stations went to the store she got it from and the store claimed it wasn't a dress but was a shirt.

Well it was long enough to be a sundress and looks like one.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: seemingly random
She does indeed have a kentucky accent - I used to live there. She may have a lisp and/or she may have a pierced tongue.

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This isn't a lot different from the woman who was harassed by southwest airlines last year. I never did hear if she got any money from anyone.

i don't think she won anything from the airlines. but her poseing for playboy didnt help i would think
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: compman25
On the news last night one of the stations went to the store she got it from and the store claimed it wasn't a dress but was a shirt.

Well it was long enough to be a sundress and looks like one.

Sarcasm much?
 

middlehead

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Originally posted by: JTsyo
Well since malls are private property they can create the dress code to their discretion.
True, but still terribly terribly stupid.

 

Injury

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: sdifox
Are you saying that dress is not fit to wear in public? Her answer was in response to being ejected from the mall because of the dress. Seems natural to me to say "But I bought this dress here yesterday!"

Again, it's a dress, yes, definitely short. But she is not parading in her undies.

My response to Injury was about his theory on responsibility to the stores but it is one of the stores that sold her the dress. So if his theory is true, this is just hypocrisy.

To say "Is the dress fit to wear in public" is a bad choice of words because "Public" encompasses too many places. Is it fit to wear in a club/bar? Yes. Is it fit to wear to church or an office environment? Nope.

Are you telling me you have never seen anyone wear dress like that in a mall?

No, I didn't say that at all. What I was implying is that just because you can buy the dress in a mall doesn't mean it's appropriate to wear anywhere and everywhere.
 

jonks

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My sympathy for her plight is confounded by her parent's retarded spelling of her name.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: compman25
On the news last night one of the stations went to the store she got it from and the store claimed it wasn't a dress but was a shirt.

Certainly doesn't look like it, but with the crazy fashions these days I guess it wouldn't surprise me. But don't dresses and shirts use different sizing systems? Dresses are 0/2/4/6/8/etc, and shirts are S/M/L/XL/etc. The reporter dropped the ball, he/she should have checked the size and shoved it in the store spokesman's face. :p

Not that it matters.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: sdifox
Are you saying that dress is not fit to wear in public? Her answer was in response to being ejected from the mall because of the dress. Seems natural to me to say "But I bought this dress here yesterday!"

Again, it's a dress, yes, definitely short. But she is not parading in her undies.

My response to Injury was about his theory on responsibility to the stores but it is one of the stores that sold her the dress. So if his theory is true, this is just hypocrisy.

To say "Is the dress fit to wear in public" is a bad choice of words because "Public" encompasses too many places. Is it fit to wear in a club/bar? Yes. Is it fit to wear to church or an office environment? Nope.

Are you telling me you have never seen anyone wear dress like that in a mall?

No, I didn't say that at all. What I was implying is that just because you can buy the dress in a mall doesn't mean it's appropriate to wear anywhere and everywhere.

But it's a dress, not g-strings or undies or anything like that. It's a short dress... I find the low cut jeans + g-string combo more annoying.
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Unless my eyes failed me, that dress is not much higher then her knees. I would put money on there being at least one fattie there in a miniskirt (13 inch or shorter) and tube top that day....


Yes, I'm THAT bored.

The show the dress later in the news report and it doesn't look but 5-10 inches from her knees. The problem is that she's holding the dress against herself and not actually wearing it.

My big problem with the news report is that if they didn't at least feel in a similar manner, they would have asked her to put on the dress and turn around for the camera. But the truth is that it probably was too short and they make "Sally the Average Viewer" out to be the bad guy instead of "The Big Bad Mall".

One thing you have to understand about the news is that with most human interest reports like that they always try to make a hero and a villain out of the story. It makes for better ratings. By making the mall out to be some sort of villain here, they managed to make a story good enough that it's on its second page on ATOT.

As Jules said, this shouldn't have even been a story.

No question this shouldn't have been a story. Since it was though I will debate it with ya.

I don't think it's "Big Bad Mall", and in fact I think it's "Big Bad Women Whose Husbands Can't Stand Them" that is the issue. The mall was completely within its right to ask her to leave because it is private property. I agree that I can't wear everything I buy in a mall/store TO said mall/store. When it's a dress though I don't see the issue.

Lets turn this around. Does this mean when I go to the mall when I see fat ugly girls in skirts with their guts hanging out, if I have enough people go and complain about it they get kicked out as well? You want to kick her out for her dress, thats fine. Now let's apply it equally and kick all the fat gross chicks out (and dudes for that matter), because I don't want to get grossed out looking at them.

As for the pic you got, the dress is shorter then I had thought. I still would bet there was at least one other girl in a miniskirt shorter then that there that day. Put on your dress code "skirts may not be more then x inches above the knees" then if it's a problem. The issue still lies with the women who are insecure about their husbands looking at a hot chick, not the hot chick.

I agree completely.

In regards the "Big Bad Mall" comment... I don't feel that way personally, but the news bias is an attempt to make people feel that way.

I'm split on whether it's an issue of it being women that are insecure with themselves and conservative views. Probably a combo of both. As I said in a previous post if the mall has a target audience of middle-aged women then it makes sense that they would try and cater to them.

The girl didn't help her case in that interview when she started saying something along the lines of "I'm 20 years old I wanna show off my body and I should be able to do what I want yadda yadda yadda"
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: sdifox
Are you saying that dress is not fit to wear in public? Her answer was in response to being ejected from the mall because of the dress. Seems natural to me to say "But I bought this dress here yesterday!"

Again, it's a dress, yes, definitely short. But she is not parading in her undies.

My response to Injury was about his theory on responsibility to the stores but it is one of the stores that sold her the dress. So if his theory is true, this is just hypocrisy.

To say "Is the dress fit to wear in public" is a bad choice of words because "Public" encompasses too many places. Is it fit to wear in a club/bar? Yes. Is it fit to wear to church or an office environment? Nope.

Are you telling me you have never seen anyone wear dress like that in a mall?

No, I didn't say that at all. What I was implying is that just because you can buy the dress in a mall doesn't mean it's appropriate to wear anywhere and everywhere.

There was nothing inappropriate about that dress.
 

Injury

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Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Injury
No, I didn't say that at all. What I was implying is that just because you can buy the dress in a mall doesn't mean it's appropriate to wear anywhere and everywhere.

But it's a dress, not g-strings or undies or anything like that. It's a short dress... I find the low cut jeans + g-string combo more annoying.

It doesn't matter what you find more annoying... AFAIK you are neither the mall's target audience nor the property owner.

It doesn't matter that it's a dress... a dress can be anywhere from right at the hips all the way down to the ankles. I don't see what difference it makes what word you give to the article of clothing. What you call it has no bearing on its level of appropriateness -- If it goes too high up then that's all there is to it.

 
Dec 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Unless my eyes failed me, that dress is not much higher then her knees. I would put money on there being at least one fattie there in a miniskirt (13 inch or shorter) and tube top that day....


Yes, I'm THAT bored.

The show the dress later in the news report and it doesn't look but 5-10 inches from her knees. The problem is that she's holding the dress against herself and not actually wearing it.

My big problem with the news report is that if they didn't at least feel in a similar manner, they would have asked her to put on the dress and turn around for the camera. But the truth is that it probably was too short and they make "Sally the Average Viewer" out to be the bad guy instead of "The Big Bad Mall".

One thing you have to understand about the news is that with most human interest reports like that they always try to make a hero and a villain out of the story. It makes for better ratings. By making the mall out to be some sort of villain here, they managed to make a story good enough that it's on its second page on ATOT.

As Jules said, this shouldn't have even been a story.

No question this shouldn't have been a story. Since it was though I will debate it with ya.

I don't think it's "Big Bad Mall", and in fact I think it's "Big Bad Women Whose Husbands Can't Stand Them" that is the issue. The mall was completely within its right to ask her to leave because it is private property. I agree that I can't wear everything I buy in a mall/store TO said mall/store. When it's a dress though I don't see the issue.

Lets turn this around. Does this mean when I go to the mall when I see fat ugly girls in skirts with their guts hanging out, if I have enough people go and complain about it they get kicked out as well? You want to kick her out for her dress, thats fine. Now let's apply it equally and kick all the fat gross chicks out (and dudes for that matter), because I don't want to get grossed out looking at them.

As for the pic you got, the dress is shorter then I had thought. I still would bet there was at least one other girl in a miniskirt shorter then that there that day. Put on your dress code "skirts may not be more then x inches above the knees" then if it's a problem. The issue still lies with the women who are insecure about their husbands looking at a hot chick, not the hot chick.

I agree completely.

In regards the "Big Bad Mall" comment... I don't feel that way personally, but the news bias is an attempt to make people feel that way.

I'm split on whether it's an issue of it being women that are insecure with themselves and conservative views. Probably a combo of both. As I said in a previous post if the mall has a target audience of middle-aged women then it makes sense that they would try and cater to them.

The girl didn't help her case in that interview when she started saying something along the lines of "I'm 20 years old I wanna show off my body and I should be able to do what I want yadda yadda yadda"

Yes the news loves to create "good guys and bad guys", and create a "right and wrong" side to stories. Rarely is it ever that simple.

I think it is an issue of both insecurities and conservative views. The flip side of that is, how come the mall didn't go around the whole mall and kick out everybody wearing similar attire? If they want to kick her out based on her dress, fine but apply it equally. I would put money on at least 10 other girls in that mall wearing clothes just as "revealing" if not more so. A lot of this does depend on the mall, because a higher "upscale" mall would definitely be different then a "teen" mall in what is "appropriate"

Do you think if this girl was fat it would be a national news story? I do. Her statement of being 20 and wanting to show it off is fine, but I also don't want fatties doing it. If it's fair for one it's fair for the other. She is being stupid about it no doubt, and could have been much more intelligent about how she went about all of it.