Gingrich: 'Weird' for Trump to produce 'Celebrity Apprentice' as president

Phokus

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http://www.politico.com/blogs/donal...wt-gingrich-trump-celebrity-apprentice-232441

Of course, if Obama did this during his presidency, the conservatives would spit so much righteous anger our ear drums would explode.

I guess with this and Trump wanting to be in NYC in the weekends, this is going to be a part time presidency and he expects all of his cabinet members to do all the work while he rubber stamps everything.

Edit: ahahahaha, Kellyanne Conway says Trump will produce in his spare time, are you shitting me?

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/09/politics/conway-defends-trump-apprentice/

What a national disaster.
 

raildogg

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These Presidents have different roles and obviously come from different backgrounds. In the end they will serve to push a certain agenda.

Obama came from a very different background compared to Trump. Obama fit his role well: first black President, diversity pushing, liberal policies, etc. He played his part.

Trump has his own role to play: He has been a mainstream celebrity in front of the America people for decades. The media has been elevating him over the years. His TV shows, his movies, his fortunes and his politics. It's all been pushed forward by the media. He's been elevated to such a celebrity status that it might overcome his Presidential status.

Obama had his critics, to say the least. Trump was among the first ones.

Trump has his critics (over half the country apparently).

Different president. Different situation. Same results?
 

boomerang

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http://www.politico.com/blogs/donal...wt-gingrich-trump-celebrity-apprentice-232441

Of course, if Obama did this during his presidency, the conservatives would spit so much righteous anger our ear drums would explode.

I guess with this and Trump wanting to be in NYC in the weekends, this is going to be a part time presidency and he expects all of his cabinet members to do all the work while he rubber stamps everything.

Edit: ahahahaha, Kellyanne Conway says Trump will produce in his spare time, are you shitting me?

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/09/politics/conway-defends-trump-apprentice/

What a national disaster.
If he picks up golf in a big way would that be OK?
 

fskimospy

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I like how Trump clearly thinks that his ethical problems weren't bad enough and so he had to make a new one.
 

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Of course, if Obama did this during his presidency, the conservatives would spit so much righteous anger our ear drums would explode.
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What a national disaster.
Did you spit any lefteous anger over Obama like you are right now with Trump? No?

Hypocrite as usual you are ;) You're posts are ever-so-decreasing the average I.Q. of the forum.
 

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Different president. Different situation. Same results?

Definitely not the same results. For one, Obama was already an experienced politician (though not extensively so) who actually had an idea as to how politics worked. He's pro-science and prefers to operate based on information rather than gut responses. He doesn't see criticism of his policies or leadership as personal attacks that must be silenced, free speech rights be damned. He intended to do and is doing the job he was elected for, instead of delegating the real work to everyone else.

So I wouldn't call this two sides of the same coin at all. One is a mature adult who did a decent (though certainly imperfect) job of running the country; the other is basically an entitled 12-year-old in a suit. Even if you believe Obama and Trump could achieve similar results, it's hard to see Trump performing nearly as well.
 
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fskimospy

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Did you spit any lefteous anger over Obama like you are right now with Trump? No?

Hypocrite as usual you are ;) You're posts are ever-so-decreasing the average I.Q. of the forum.

Yoda, are you having a stroke? Do you need assistance?
 

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With all the promises he's been making, I'd have thought he'd consider POTUS a full time gig. I know "executive producer" is just code for "I get a big pay check for doing nothing because I'm the big shot", but even if it takes him zero time, it still demeans the office.

"Excuse me for a moment Mr. President, Ms. Prime Minister. I have to work out a problem with Screech's dressing room. Be right back."
 

Zorba

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If he picks up golf in a big way would that be OK?

Obama has played less than one round of golf a week since becoming the president, and I think a lot of those were 9-hole rounds. So like 4 hours a week, is the guy seriously not allowed any time to himself? How many times did Bush ride his bike or clear brush at his ranch?

That is a big difference than producing a TV show. I assume that will require much more than 4 hours a week, and is a huge conflict of interest.
 

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fwiw executive producers usually aren't intimately involved with the projects they work on. Sid Meier is an obvious example; every Civ game says "Sid Meier's Civilization", but he hasn't been significantly involved in the design since the original Civ game. It's more of a legal and royalties thing. What will likely happen is that they send Trump some assembled footage almost ready for showing, he'll watch the episode and offer sage advice, like "That broad has a great rack, show her a bit more", they make the appropriate changes, and voila, a money in his pocket.
 

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That is a big difference than producing a TV show. I assume that will require much more than 4 hours a week, and is a huge conflict of interest.
If he was the showrunner, it definitely would. But as HamburgerBoy pointed out, most EPs aren't actively involved in the projects, or get a title out of respect (like lead actors of a long-running show or former showrunners). I don't think Trump will do more than watch a episode before broadcast and give some opinions, if that.
 

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fwiw executive producers usually aren't intimately involved with the projects they work on. Sid Meier is an obvious example; every Civ game says "Sid Meier's Civilization", but he hasn't been significantly involved in the design since the original Civ game. It's more of a legal and royalties thing. What will likely happen is that they send Trump some assembled footage almost ready for showing, he'll watch the episode and offer sage advice, like "That broad has a great rack, show her a bit more", they make the appropriate changes, and voila, a money in his pocket.

If he was the showrunner, it definitely would. But as HamburgerBoy pointed out, most EPs aren't actively involved in the projects, or get a title out of respect (like lead actors of a long-running show or former showrunners). I don't think Trump will do more than watch a episode before broadcast and give some opinions, if that.


So this story is a big nothing which means we should be looking at whatever it is trump is trying to distract us with.

I'm guessing he doesn't want people looking at his latest cabinet pics, another Goldman Sachs guy. Or maybe the details of the carrier deal are not as good as he portrayed them to be (only 736 jobs and the company will be using its savings to automate it and cut more jobs).

Lets keep our eyes on the ball folks.
 

Zorba

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Lets not forgot republicans went ape about Obama doing between two ferns also. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/11/obama-between-two-ferns_n_4942529.html

fwiw executive producers usually aren't intimately involved with the projects they work on. Sid Meier is an obvious example; every Civ game says "Sid Meier's Civilization", but he hasn't been significantly involved in the design since the original Civ game. It's more of a legal and royalties thing. What will likely happen is that they send Trump some assembled footage almost ready for showing, he'll watch the episode and offer sage advice, like "That broad has a great rack, show her a bit more", they make the appropriate changes, and voila, a money in his pocket.

I guess that is true, but it is still a conflict of interest, especially if he is getting money for it.
 

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fwiw executive producers usually aren't intimately involved with the projects they work on. Sid Meier is an obvious example; every Civ game says "Sid Meier's Civilization", but he hasn't been significantly involved in the design since the original Civ game. It's more of a legal and royalties thing. What will likely happen is that they send Trump some assembled footage almost ready for showing, he'll watch the episode and offer sage advice, like "That broad has a great rack, show her a bit more", they make the appropriate changes, and voila, a money in his pocket.
Agreed, it's almost certain to take less time than Obama's golf, and as far as conflict of interest if he gets paid, I really don't think so. However, it's demeaning to the office. Trump made a big deal of not taking the Presidential salary, which is fine - but then he does this?

I really don't expect much from politicians in general and Trump in particular, but this is below even my expectations for Trump. It's just . . . crass.