Gingrich Predicts Clinton-Obama Ticket

[ProfJohn]

In my view the VP slot is Obama?s for the taking, assuming he does not win the top spot.
If he comes in second and makes it known that he wants the top spot then there is no way the Democrats can deny him. The black voting block has way to much power over the party for them to risk losing it.

From a political point of view I don?t think Obama is a good choice for the VP spot. He comes from the same home state as Hillary and he very liberal like Hillary. And since the Democrats already get 90% of the black vote him being on the ticket does nothing to help in that regard either.

Richardson makes far more sense from a political point of view. He is Hispanic and from a southwest state, in both ways he helps Hillary pick up votes.
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Democrats will nominate Hillary Rodham Clinton for president in 2008 and Barack Obama will be her running mate, former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich predicts.

The GOP will have three "formidable" choices in Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson, said Gingrich, who is considering whether to get into the race.

Gingrich is ruling out John McCain's chances among the Republican contenders.

The Arizona senator "has taken positions so deeply at odds with his party's base that I don't see how he can get the nomination," Gingrich said Sunday in a broadcast interview.

Gingrich said he had dinner recently with Thompson, the former Tennessee senator and actor who has set up a political committee that allows him to raise money for a presidential bid. An official launch is likely in September, after the Labor Day holiday.

Gingrich said he expects Thompson will enter what is shaping up as a competitive race for the GOP nomination against Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, and Giuliani, a former New York City mayor.

"I think that either Mayor Giuliani or Governor Romney or Senator Thompson would be a very formidable opponent for what I expect will be a Clinton-Obama ticket, and I think that there's a possibility that will work," Gingrich said.

In the fall, Gingrich might decide to jump in, depending on how the Republican candidates are faring against Clinton, the New York senator.

"If there is a vacuum and if there's a real need for somebody to be prepared to debate Senator Clinton, then I would consider running. I think we'll know that in October," Gingrich said.

"But these three are serious people," Gingrich said, referring to Romney, Giuliani and Thompson. "They're working very hard. And if they can fill the vacuum, I don't feel any great need to run."

Gingrich spoke on "Fox News Sunday."

 

[blackangst1]

Clinton/Obama certainly looks like a strong Dem ticket now...lots of time left though. I personlly hope this is the ticket we see.

 

[Stunt]

I agree, Richardson is the best choice for VP.
Edwards didn't help in the south, Illinois is one of the most liberal states and whoever the Democratic nominee is, will need to win swing states not just the same old blue states.

Clinton/Obama would be a horrible ticket and I hope Obama says no if offered. It would tarnish a potential run in the future; he still has a few years left in him.

 

[bamacre]

Another pathetic, choose-the-lesser-of-two-evils election.

 

[techs]

That ticket makes no sense at all. Obama doesn't bring any state that Clinton wouldn't already win. I suspect Clinton will pick a moderate who has strong defense and foreign policy experience and who is popular in one of the battleground states.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Clinton/Obama certainly looks like a strong Dem ticket now...lots of time left though. I personlly hope this is the ticket we see.

Strong in what way?
What does Obama bring to the ticket politically?
What states do they win because of Obama?

Ask those same questions about Richardsons and get back to me.

 

[Moonbeam]

Maybe Obama Clinton.

 

[magomago]

If clinton was on the ticket then I wouldn't vote for obama

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
In my view the VP slot is Obama?s for the taking, assuming he does not win the top spot.
If he comes in second and makes it known that he wants the top spot then there is no way the Democrats can deny him. The black voting block has way to much power over the party for them to risk losing it.

From a political point of view I don?t think Obama is a good choice for the VP spot. He comes from the same home state as Hillary and he very liberal like Hillary. And since the Democrats already get 90% of the black vote him being on the ticket does nothing to help in that regard either.

Richardson makes far more sense from a political point of view. He is Hispanic and from a southwest state, in both ways he helps Hillary pick up votes.
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Democrats will nominate Hillary Rodham Clinton for president in 2008 and Barack Obama will be her running mate, former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich predicts.

The GOP will have three "formidable" choices in Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson, said Gingrich, who is considering whether to get into the race.

Gingrich is ruling out John McCain's chances among the Republican contenders.

The Arizona senator "has taken positions so deeply at odds with his party's base that I don't see how he can get the nomination," Gingrich said Sunday in a broadcast interview.

Gingrich said he had dinner recently with Thompson, the former Tennessee senator and actor who has set up a political committee that allows him to raise money for a presidential bid. An official launch is likely in September, after the Labor Day holiday.

Gingrich said he expects Thompson will enter what is shaping up as a competitive race for the GOP nomination against Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, and Giuliani, a former New York City mayor.

"I think that either Mayor Giuliani or Governor Romney or Senator Thompson would be a very formidable opponent for what I expect will be a Clinton-Obama ticket, and I think that there's a possibility that will work," Gingrich said.

In the fall, Gingrich might decide to jump in, depending on how the Republican candidates are faring against Clinton, the New York senator.

"If there is a vacuum and if there's a real need for somebody to be prepared to debate Senator Clinton, then I would consider running. I think we'll know that in October," Gingrich said.

"But these three are serious people," Gingrich said, referring to Romney, Giuliani and Thompson. "They're working very hard. And if they can fill the vacuum, I don't feel any great need to run."

Gingrich spoke on "Fox News Sunday."

Originally posted by: Stunt
I agree, Richardson is the best choice for VP.
Edwards didn't help in the south, Illinois is one of the most liberal states and whoever the Democratic nominee is, will need to win swing states not just the same old blue states.

Clinton/Obama would be a horrible ticket and I hope Obama says no if offered. It would tarnish a potential run in the future; he still has a few years left in him.

Bahahahahaha thank god neither of you have anything to say or do with the Democrat party.

 

[Stunt]

Dave, What do you think the ticket should be and why?

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Stunt
Dave, What do you think the ticket should be and why?

I don?t think the Dave bot is capable of answering a question like that. It would require more thought than ?Republicans bad, Democrats good.?

When is the last time Dave added something meaningful to any thread?

 

[Deudalus]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Stunt
Dave, What do you think the ticket should be and why?

I don?t think the Dave bot is capable of answering a question like that. It would require more thought than ?Republicans bad, Democrats good.?

When is the last time Dave added something meaningful to any thread?

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Stunt
Dave, What do you think the ticket should be and why?

I don?t think the Dave bot is capable of answering a question like that. It would require more thought than ?Republicans bad, Democrats good.?

When is the last time Dave added something meaningful to any thread?

I would turn that question around and ask it of you non-Prof John! The entire newsworthy and non forum trolling value of this thread rests on the fragile premise that anything Newt Gingrich
SAYS HAS ANY PREDICTIVE OR PSYCHIC VALUE. And the premise would not be as dubious if Paris Hilton or non prof John offered up their baseless opinion unbidden on the same subject.

But as a known GOP sympathizers, its would probably behoove non-Prof John to restrict his forum trolling to the GOP side of the divide. And instead you are habitually making snide implications, for suspect motives, and almost always inside the democratic side. Just for fairness, at least endeavor to give equal time to the GOP.

And there is one criteria for those commenting on a thread, and a higher standard for the OP
for starting the discussion. Because then the question is always asked---is this a legitimate question or news? Or is it troll bait posted to provoke an entire platform of bogus reasoning.?

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Stunt
Dave, What do you think the ticket should be and why?

I don?t think the Dave bot is capable of answering a question like that. It would require more thought than ?Republicans bad, Democrats good.?

When is the last time Dave added something meaningful to any thread?

I would turn that question around and ask it of you non-Prof John! The entire newsworthy and non forum trolling value of this thread rests on the fragile premise that anything Newt Gingrich
SAYS HAS ANY PREDICTIVE OR PSYCHIC VALUE. And the premise would not be as dubious if Paris Hilton or non prof John offered up their baseless opinion unbidden on the same subject.

But as a known GOP sympathizers, its would probably behoove non-Prof John to restrict his forum trolling to the GOP side of the divide. And instead you are always making snide implications for suspect motives.

And there is one criteria for those commenting on a thread, and a higher standard for the OP
for starting the discussion. Because then the question is always asked---is this a legitimate question or news. Or is it troll bait posted to provoke bogus a reasoning.

You can hate ProfJohn and still hate Dave... he is a uniter!

 

[Lemon law]

You can hate ProfJohn and still hate Dave... he is a uniter!

You miss the point---who is the OP on the thread? It ain't Dave.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Stunt
Dave, What do you think the ticket should be and why?

I don?t think the Dave bot is capable of answering a question like that. It would require more thought than ?Republicans bad, Democrats good.?

When is the last time Dave added something meaningful to any thread?

I would turn that question around and ask it of you non-Prof John! The entire newsworthy and non forum trolling value of this thread rests on the fragile premise that anything Newt Gingrich
SAYS HAS ANY PREDICTIVE OR PSYCHIC VALUE. And the premise would not be as dubious if Paris Hilton or non prof John offered up their baseless opinion unbidden on the same subject.

But as a known GOP sympathizers, its would probably behoove non-Prof John to restrict his forum trolling to the GOP side of the divide. And instead you are always making snide implications for suspect motives.

And there is one criteria for those commenting on a thread, and a higher standard for the OP
for starting the discussion. Because then the question is always asked---is this a legitimate question or news. Or is it troll bait posted to provoke bogus a reasoning.

umm what is it about this thread that is troll worthy?

Maybe you should learn the definition of a troll.
"a troll is someone who intentionally posts messages about sensitive topics constructed to cause controversy in an online community such as an online discussion forum or USENET groups in order to bait users into responding"

I don't see anything in the OP that reaches or even comes close to that level.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Stunt
Dave, What do you think the ticket should be and why?

That's easy.

Should be me and another non-career, non bought by Corporations candidate.

The fact that the Presidency is purchased by the Corporations WILL be the end of this country.

 

[blackllotus]

Sorry to be a party pooper but isn't Clinton-Obama the "obvious" prediction for the democratic ticket? What makes Gingrich's prediction so special?

 

[Lemon law]

The other question become in terms of forum trolling. Is this a offense defense interactive question or a gentleman's game like chess, or golf, or pocket billards.

But non-Prof John is asserting the right to influence or quesstion the other camp's choices. When its well known that he will never vote for or endorse the democratic candidates nor will he vote in the democratic primaries to honestly contribute to having a stronger democratic slate.

And in a game of golf or chess, the various torrnament contenders cannot control how well their competitors preforms and can only compete on how well they play the game. And hence they can only hope that when the score keeping is done, that their own performance turns out to be better than what the other side(s) can muster. And if their opponents are not strong, they don't have to do as well to win. But I see what non-Prof John is doing as the generic equivalent of shining a pinkie ring in the opponents eyes while shooting or breaking the concentration of a golfer when they are trying to make a difficult shot. It just is not legal in a gentleman's game.

And this is why I am saying that non-Prof John should troll under his own bridge---because he will not be having any inputs in who the democrats choose. And if he wants to contribute in Anand tech with the candidate selection process, he needs to improve who the GOP chooses in 08. And thats where he should restrict himself as an OP.

After all---Non Prof John----are you registered to vote as a Republican, a Democrat, or as an independent?

 

[nageov3t]

look at the polls... for the most part, the "black vote" (insofar as there even is one) is splitting pretty heavily towards Clinton.

 

[ProfJohn]

So Lemon... in your view the only people who can talk about the Democrats are fellow Democrats?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
So Lemon... in your view the only people who can talk about the Democrats are fellow Democrats?

That was not the question one would ask who absorbed the meaning and intent of his post.

 

[Wreckem]

Gingrich and everyone in this thread is wrong. Bill Richardson will be the next Vice President.

Richardson's more moderate stances will help Clinton or Obama more than the other would as their VPs.

A Clinton/Richardson or Obama/Richardson ticket will pull in more moderate/independent voters.

I honestly feel the only way Clinton or Obama could lose is if they choose the other one as VP.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Gingrich and everyone in this thread is wrong. Bill Richardson will be the next Vice President.

Richardson's more moderate stances will help Clinton or Obama more than the other would as their VPs.

A Clinton/Richardson or Obama/Richardson ticket will pull in more moderate/independent voters.

I honestly feel the only way Clinton or Obama could lose is if they choose the other one as VP.

Actually ProfJohn, myself and others said this above.

 

[Socio]

I don't think Obama would run on ticket as VP with Clinton because if they win he would have to endure at least four years of "driving miss daisy" jokes.

Also you better hope to hell Bill Richardson is not on any ticket as you will never ever see any kind of effective Border Security or illegal immigration enforcement with him in power. His allegiance is with the Hispanics, be it citizen, legal or illegal and will put what is best for them above what is best for the nation.