Gingrich PAC uses class warfare to attack Romney

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woolfe9999

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No it couldn't have. Dems never but anything together this tough or clever. The DNC should watch this an take notes.

I'm sure Gingrich would gladly take a job as an "advisor and historian" to show them how its done. The man does have skillz.

Maybe true. The bit about KB Toys that shows the kid watching TV while it's reporting that the toy stores will close is pure gold. It's as if Romney's literally ripping the toys out of Tiny Tim's little hands!
 

woolfe9999

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Republicans dismiss it as "class warfare" at their peril. This is going to resonate, not because Romney made himself rich, but because he destroyed the livelihoods of thousands of people to get there. This plays to the fundamental anxiety that the middle class, what's still left of it, has, and that is that someone like Romney will come in and destroy their way of life to make a quick buck. Gingrich may be a scumbag, but he's giving Republicans a very clear preview of what's coming this fall if Romney is the nominee.

This will play much better in the general than it does in the primary, I suspect.
 

theeedude

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It's a nice wedge between the Chamber of Commerce Republicans and the Joe plumber types they need to get elected. If Democrats can split that coalition, they'll be in excellent shape. The fact that it's none other than Newt Gingrich doing the dirty work for them is icing on the cake.
I think it will play in the primary, but it may not be decisive. Only viable general election alternative is Huntsman, and he's going nowhere. So as flawed of a candidate as Romney is, he'll probably be the nominee.
 

sportage

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Gingrich is trying something pretty different in politics. Well… different for a grown up adult. Newt realized he could never win on his own merits, so Newt is trying to create his own little "club" to gain attention. Remember when us guys (and some girls) were kids, and the un-popular neighborhood kid would start their own club? Usually started not to include someone, but to exclude someone. Exclude those neighborhood kid(s) that were never going to be on your side. That kid created their little own club to try and get most other kids to join. Force a division within the neighborhood click. Get those kids to forget about any difference they have with you. Get those kids to fall in line with that unpopular neighborhood kid. Make the issue it is better to be a club member, than a club outcast. A pretty good stunt for the kid loser, to gain attention. A simple childish trick to win the battle of neighborhood popularity. That old neighborhood battle of popularity.

Well Newt has created his own little "stop Mitt" club. But actually, Newt only hopes to draw attention to his own cause, to be president. Newt will never be president, or gain the positive attention he so desires by playing the game of debate and qualification. So Newt, in another typical childish move, has decided to create his very own “club of Newt”. Hoping his foes will overlook all Newt ‘s short comings, and join the club of Newt disguised as the club against Mitt. Because everyone knows, especially Newt Gingrich, that it is more desirable to be a club member, than a club outcast. His little trick. Just another well-known Newt Gingrich temper tantrum, and so very typical of Newt. Poor little Newt. The kid that was usually excluded from the neighborhood club.
Join my club. I'm so lonely...
 
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hal2kilo

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It's a nice wedge between the Chamber of Commerce Republicans and the Joe plumber types they need to get elected. If Democrats can split that coalition, they'll be in excellent shape. The fact that it's none other than Newt Gingrich doing the dirty work for them is icing on the cake.
I think it will play in the primary, but it may not be decisive. Only viable general election alternative is Huntsman, and he's going nowhere. So as flawed of a candidate as Romney is, he'll probably be the nominee.

This is pure gold for the Obama campaign. If Romney makes it to the nomination, he will be so tainted (ironically by his own fellow party members) that he can not win.
 

Bitek

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Maybe true. The bit about KB Toys that shows the kid watching TV while it's reporting that the toy stores will close is pure gold. It's as if Romney's literally ripping the toys out of Tiny Tim's little hands!

Yeah man, the whole thing was a nuclear warhead.

May not play now, but man, the general is going to be rough.
 

Thump553

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I finally got to see the entire film. It is effective and clear, laying out it's case by facts (not the BS opinions that were the swiftboat attack film).

I urge wolfe and the other apologists for Romney's (and the GOP Establishment's) defense of so-called free capitalism to actually view the film. It is a damning and effective portrayal of class warfare as exercised upon the US middle class.

Where are the GOP populists? I thought that's what the Tea Party was supposed to be-standing up to Wall Street tactics. Of all the national politicians only Sarah Palin has given even a half hearted criticism of Romney's looter tactics, the rest have given an absolutely uncritical and unrestricted endorsement of this sort of Wall Street tactic.
 

woolfe9999

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I finally got to see the entire film. It is effective and clear, laying out it's case by facts (not the BS opinions that were the swiftboat attack film).

I urge wolfe and the other apologists for Romney's (and the GOP Establishment's) defense of so-called free capitalism to actually view the film. It is a damning and effective portrayal of class warfare as exercised upon the US middle class.

Where are the GOP populists? I thought that's what the Tea Party was supposed to be-standing up to Wall Street tactics. Of all the national politicians only Sarah Palin has given even a half hearted criticism of Romney's looter tactics, the rest have given an absolutely uncritical and unrestricted endorsement of this sort of Wall Street tactic.

I'm afraid you've misread me in this thread. Not an apologist for Romney. I'm just taking note of the irony of a republican using arguments usually associated with the left to attack a fellow republican in the primary.

As for the content of the ad, I doubt there's much flat out factual inaccuracy to it. It IS, however, done as a propaganda piece. For example, you can't fail to notice things like the child apparently watching a TV report about how all the toy stores are closing. It's a straight appeal to emotion. And why exactly are we repeatedly shown the same shot of Romney getting his shoes shined?

Whether one thinks it was wrong of Bain and Romney to buy companies and lay people off for profit is very much a question of values. My point is that no one with "conservative values" should have the least problem with anything presented in that piece. If you want to say I'm an apologist for Romney here, you'll have to discern where I have said I embrace conservative values in this area. Hint: I did not.

- wolf
 
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blankslate

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You don't say....
 

soundforbjt

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What's funny is this was brought up by Willard's endorser, McCain in the 08 primary, but without OWS being around then it didn't stick. So OWS has done some good after all...just not for the right.