Gilbert Arenas offers to buy Bonds' 756 from Ecko

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http://www.nba.com/blog/gilbert_arenas.html

Marc Ecko, I Have an Offer for You
I normally don?t get into conversations like this, but this kind of hit a nerve in my body as an athlete. This whole Marc Ecko buying the Barry Bonds ball to put an asterisk over it:

I just think it?s the stupidest thing I?ve ever heard of.

Who are you as a person to take away somebody?s legacy because you don?t like him as a person? Forget that he is Barry Bonds and forget his records. He was ?alleged? of doing steroids. This is America, just because you?re ?alleged? of doing something doesn?t mean he actually did it and until he is proven guilty, you shouldn?t have the right to be the judge and jury.

Just because you have the money don?t go buying up people?s history to destroy it. If you?re going to get Barry Bonds? ball, why don?t you go get Mark McGwire?s homerun balls that got put into the Hall of Fame and Sammy Sosa?s corked bat too?

He was ?alleged? of doing steroids. I don?t think as a fan of sports that you have the right to taint this man?s legacy.

This man has a kid. When his kid grows up he?s going to hate you as a person because you decided to be this sup, superhero to go put an asterisk sign over his dad?s legacy.

I just felt appalled by it because, what if somebody decides to ban the hyperbaric chambers tomorrow? Everybody knows that I used the hyperbaric tent last year and I scored 60 points against the Lakers during the season I was using the tent. Now, the Hall of Fame has my shoes from that game. What if somebody decides to take my shoes and put an asterisk sign on them now?

I think it?s just drawing graffiti on somebody else?s legacy. Before you go and destroy another man?s career, I?d rather buy the ball back from you and give it to somebody who really, truly wants the ball for what it is.

So, Marc Ecko, I want the ball to give it to a real fan. As a human, you should be ashamed of yourself for outbidding somebody just to do wrong to somebody?s property.

If people don?t understand what I?m talking about, this is the easiest way I can explain it. Anybody out there that has ever taken Creatine, that?s a popular substance, if they all of the sudden consider Creatine to be a steroid that means all you guys that took it are dirty so if you ever do anything in life, you?re tainted. Anything you do in life you?re going to have somebody like Marc Ecko wanting to buy whatever you do in life to put an asterisk sign by it. So if you get a promotion and he decides he wants this guy fired because he did Creatine back in 2001, that?s how you should feel.

Just because he is one of the most hated guys in the world because of ?allegedly? doing steroids, I don?t think you should take away his legacy.

The day he broke the record, he wasn?t on steroids. That?s how I look at it. People say that he?s dirty, but the last time I checked anything out I saw that corked bats, spitting on balls, Vaseline on balls and stealing signals, that?s all cheating too.

If they?re doing steroids, I mean there have been plenty of players who I thought have done steroids, but I?m not going to buy their stuff up just to put an asterisk on it. I think it?s giving the wrong idea to people. The fans that voted for the asterisk, I think they?re representing sports wrong because at the time that he broke these records, he wasn?t on steroids.

If you want to buy some records that were broken by somebody who was accused of steroids and admitted to using steroids, go buy Arnold Schwarzenegger?s. Go buy back his trophies and medals and put asterisks on them. That?s a man who actually admitted to using steroids.

I just think it?s wrong. In sports, what people don?t realize is, you?re trying to do everything you can to get that extra advantage. By me using the hyperbaric chamber, I?m using it as an advantage. If they ban it tomorrow, will people be looking at me as a dirty player?

I?m not saying steroids are good or bad here. I mean, I think it?s a cowardly way to enhance your performance don?t get me wrong, but my issue is that if the guy hasn?t been proven guilty, you shouldn?t taint him.

You?re not Superman. You can?t go around trying to save the world from this ball. Give me a break. What if I buy your company and throw it in the trash because I say it's tainted? How stupid would you feel?

And for people who still aren?t feeling me; What if a kid comes and graffiti?s your house. How would you feel?

You worked your butt off to live in the place you live in and some not-so-smart people come and graffiti your house. How would you feel? That?s what I feel about that ball. You?re just tagging it up.

Let a fan, somebody who appreciates the game still, no matter what, accept that ball.

I?ll buy the ball from you Ecko for $800,000. If Barry Bonds is found guilty, I?ll give it back to you. I?m not going to let you go around like some little superhero.

I?ll put it in my hall of fame. The Gilbert Hall of Fame for Athletes no matter what you did.

I know I got off on a little tangent, but Marc, who are you to discredit Barry Bonds' legacy? He is a man first before being a seven-time MVP. Marc, what if someone tried to take away what you did in this world as a fashion pioneer? How would that make you feel as a man?

I would love to buy the ball away from you before you destroy history. I'm a collector of basketball jerseys and I would be honored to have the 756 ball in my personal hall of fame and I know there are real fans out there who both are and aren't Barry Bonds supporters who don't want to see history getting marked up.

I'm not defending steroids users by any means. I defending sports in history.

I don't really agree with all his points, as the hyperbaric chambers and creatine arguments are a bit of a stretch, but his overall point is right on. Ecko has no idea what it's like to be an athlete--he thinks he's doing some wonderful noble thing here, when all it is is a very cheap, lame publicity stunt to get him some press.

For Gilbert, a fellow athlete who actually knows what it takes to be at an elite level as he is, to defend Bonds like this is great in my view. Say what you will about how it's Ecko's money and his ball now, or how it's the fans who voted for graffitiing the ball, but it is eventually up to him to do it, all for some cheap press..
 

GagHalfrunt

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Bonds is not *alleged* of doing steroids, he admitted it to the grand jury. Funny how the Bonds supporters leave that part out.
 

AccruedExpenditure

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I'm a Giants Fan. I'm a Bonds Fan. I know Bonds is a cheater. I'd buy the ball and blend it with a blender a la willitblend.com/blendtec.
 

QED

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Wow... I used to think Arenas was a classy guy.

Here he comes across as just another ungrateful whiny athlete.

If he cared so much about what happened to Barry Bond's "property", why didn't he bid on it himself?

You had the chance, Gilbert, to put your money where your mouth now is. You didn't, so please spare us the "poor Barry" argument.
 

Deeko

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Good for Arenas. I agree with him. Say what you will about Bonds, but the ball is a part of history, and all of you (yes, all) that whine and cry about asterisks need to shut the fuck up.
 

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Good for Arenas. I agree with him. Say what you will about Bonds, but the ball is a part of history, and all of you (yes, all) that whine and cry about asterisks need to shut the fuck up.

The asterisk will be part of history too. :)
 

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He (Ecko) ought to burn that damn ball and send the video to Bonds.

Might make for some good fodder when the trial begins.
 

RagingBITCH

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Who gives a sh!t...Ecko bought it with *his* money. He should be able to do what he wants with it. Gilbert is just another crybaby. Defacing history? Whatever. The MLB could have bought the ball back from the guy who originally caught it and put it on display or something. Go to hell Arenas.
 

Balt

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I don't really agree with all his points, as the hyperbaric chambers and creatine arguments are a bit of a stretch, but his overall point is right on. Ecko has no idea what it's like to be an athlete--he thinks he's doing some wonderful noble thing here, when all it is is a very cheap, lame publicity stunt to get him some press.

Errr, not really. You think he spent all that money to do a "wonderful noble thing"? He knew it was a publicity stunt that would get him more press than the price of that baseball could buy him. Also he didn't personally choose what was to happen to the ball, the voters did.
 

CTrain

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Big flaw in that rant of his.
Marc Ekco didn't put an asterisk on the ball, he let the public vote and the result was loud and clear.
The public think Bonds is a cheater.

As for offering $800K, save your money Gilbert.
You probably will need the money once you retire alot more than Ekco.
Ekco said he didn't put a ceiling on how much he was willing to pay for the ball so $750K was chump change for him.
Call him what you will, it was great publicity for him and his companies.

And whats with the idiotic analogies ??
Creatine and hyperbaric chamber ??
Steroids has been illegal in the US forever, Creatine and hyperbaric chamber are not.
And this comment "I?m not saying steroids are good or bad here."[/]..WTF ??
 

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Originally posted by: CTrain
Big flaw in that rant of his.
Marc Ekco didn't put an asterisk on the ball, he let the public vote and the result was loud and clear.
The public think Bonds is a cheater.

As for offering $800K, save your money Gilbert.
You probably will need the money once you retire alot more than Ekco.
Ekco said he didn't put a ceiling on how much he was willing to pay for the ball so $750K was chump change for him.
Call him what you will, it was great publicity for him and his companies.

And if this guy thinks money is going to make a difference, he's missing the point of what Marc Ecko said about the ball. He said he wanted to "democratize the ball" - he wanted to let the people decide. Granted, it was also a publicity stunt, but what message would it send if he sold it after he let the people decide?
 

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ecko didnt brand the ball.. the hundreds of thousands of baseball fans who voted did
 

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I'm rather sick of athletes whining. He cheated, it's a simple as that. As others have mentioned, it wasn't entirely Ekco's doing, he put it up for a vote. I'd say the vote was rather telling in regards to the general public's thoughts on the matter.


As for Mr. Arenas, I'd suggest he spend a bit more time with a dictionary and a grammar book. I also love how he professes to not defend steroid users, yet does exactly that. Way to set an example you overpaid piece of trash.
 

SludgeFactory

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Gilbert means well. I'm just not sure what all he's breathing in that tent.

The way I look at it is that somebody I never heard of and will never care about found a way to become a bigger douchebag than Barry Bonds by inserting himself into the middle of this in a painfully transparent attempt at viral marketing. Congrats dude!
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Good for Arenas. I agree with him. Say what you will about Bonds, but the ball is a part of history, and all of you (yes, all) that whine and cry about asterisks need to shut the fuck up.

The ball is the legal property of Mr. Ecko. Period. If Ecko wants to brand an asterisk on his property, that's his right.

Arenas is on a lovely little ego trip here. He knows that Ecko will never sell him the ball. He knows there's nothing he can do. So he's mouthing off knowing that he'll never actually be asked to make good on his boasting.

ZV
 

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My three favorite parts of the article:

I?m not going to let you go around like some little superhero.

Uh, really? Cause I'm pretty sure you don't have a choice in the matter. Marc owns the ball and he'll do what he wants with it whether you "let him" or not.

What if I buy your company and throw it in the trash because I say it's tainted? How stupid would you feel?

This comment is so dumb I don't know where to start so I'll just say that Marc would probably thank you and laugh all the way to the bank.

go buy Arnold Schwarzenegger?s. Go buy back his trophies and medals and put asterisks on them. That?s a man who actually admitted to using steroids.

Barry admitted to using steroids too Gilbert. Sorry to mention that.

Meh, just another athlete with more millions than I.Q. points. Gilbert, while a great ball player, is clearly a retard.
 

axelfox

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Would this be such a big deal if Bonds wasn't such a jerk? Well, at least to the press?
 
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Gilbert...

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Stamp the thing with an asterisk for all to see and display it proudly in the Hall for all to see. Bonds is a cheater, a liar and an all-around jackass. I can't wait for the feds to indict him.