Gigabyte X800 XL (silent heatpipe)

sellmen

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Without a case fan (out in the open) the core reached 105 degrees C :Q. With a case fan pointed at it, temps were much lower.

Esentially, your case fans will have to do the cooling job.
 

mdchesne

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back when the 9800pro was the top of the line, people really began to wonder if heatpiping these new video card swas possible. I know thermaltake and zalman have tried massive heatpipes but the truth is, these new video cards just can't be cooled passively. you'd have to have a casefan blowing directly on it to keep it down...which negates the idea of a passivly cooled vga.

idea: xp-120 for vga :D :D :D
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: sellmen
Review

Without a case fan (out in the open) the core reached 105 degrees C :Q. With a case fan pointed at it, temps were much lower.

Esentially, your case fans will have to do the cooling job.

Good site.....not.

I have a feeling that ATi might be artificially limiting how high X800 XL videocards can overclock so they do not compete with higher end cards. It would make sense based on what we saw with the GV-RX80L256V, since neither the core nor memory displayed any artifacts when pushed too high, they simply locked up instead.
So my 9800 non-pro is artificially limited on the core as well?
I can get from the default 275 up to 430~450MHz, but when I push too hard, it just locks up (at over 450MHz).
Obviously it's being artificially limited, because it locks up and doesn't display artifacts.
These people are on crack. From my experience, memory artifacts, cores lock up.
If it's 0.11 micron tech with passive cooling, then it's fairly obviously not going to overclock too far, since it will overheat...then lock up.
And the RAM, well, that's 2ns, rated for 500MHz (1000MHz). My RAM on my 9800 is rated at 3ns and won't even hit stock speed.
Memory locking up is odd though, never experienced that, just artifacts.
TBH, I wouldn't put a huge amount of faith in what they say.
 

sellmen

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: sellmen
Review

Without a case fan (out in the open) the core reached 105 degrees C :Q. With a case fan pointed at it, temps were much lower.

Esentially, your case fans will have to do the cooling job.

Good site.....not.

I have a feeling that ATi might be artificially limiting how high X800 XL videocards can overclock so they do not compete with higher end cards. It would make sense based on what we saw with the GV-RX80L256V, since neither the core nor memory displayed any artifacts when pushed too high, they simply locked up instead.
So my 9800 non-pro is artificially limited on the core as well?
I can get from the default 275 up to 430~450MHz, but when I push too hard, it just locks up (at over 450MHz).
Obviously it's being artificially limited, because it locks up and doesn't display artifacts.
These people are on crack. From my experience, memory artifacts, cores lock up.
If it's 0.11 micron tech with passive cooling, then it's fairly obviously not going to overclock too far, since it will overheat...then lock up.
And the RAM, well, that's 2ns, rated for 500MHz (1000MHz). My RAM on my 9800 is rated at 3ns and won't even hit stock speed.
Memory locking up is odd though, never experienced that, just artifacts.
TBH, I wouldn't put a huge amount of faith in what they say.

Their analysis is one thing...their temperature readings are another. Are you saying they purposely lied about the temperatures using their FLUKE and RivaTuner?

I have an X800XL with a VGA silencer on it. The heatsink gets very hot to the touch...I can't imagine how they expect a passive cooler to effectively cool this card. Passive cooling on a high end card is just a bad idea.
 

MJGunn

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Sorry to be bumping an old thread, but wondering if anyone had any experience with this card yet.
 

BillyBobJoel71

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that site is the slowest site i've ever been to. the card must require some form of fan to pass the air past the heatsink in order for it to function optimaly.
 

BFG10K

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The review sites I've seen have not mentioned any problems with the passively cooled Gigabyte. And FYI it uses liquid cooling.