That's true, 686B isn't all that horrible. KT133A does have some glitches however, and VIA continues to deny them and place the blame on others. For example, I'm still wondering just how many KT133A-based mobos were sold with defective north bridges? (i.e. early revision) You know, the ones that have cold/warm boot problems, etc, etc. I never experienced the 686B "issues", but it's rather sad that hardware as popular as SB! Live could have been overlooked. And the data corruption was pretty ridiculous too. All in all, 686B is a good product that could have been great.