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Gigabit Wan port issue

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muSt

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Hi all I just registered here because I think you can help me with some problems I have with my new router. My router is the D-link DGL-4500 and I just bought it. The problem is that my wan port is like the telephone port which is smaller than the ethernet cable. This router has a gigabit wan port which is like the ethernet ( I think you know what I mean). I would like to know how can I setup my connection with the gigabit wan. What I use now is a router from thomson which came with the connection I bought. The only way to use the D-link is only thought some modem? Also if needed what extra do I have to buy to make my new router run nicely.
Thanks everybody I hope for a good start.
 
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Looks like a normal port to me. Does yours look different than this? Do you have cable internet? What do you have for a modem right now? It almost sounds like a modem/router from your ISP but I'm not sure.
 
Exactly is a router that my isp gave me when I bought the connection. If you can see the wan port is not like the one I have in my speedtouch 585v6 (normal wan not gigabit). The d-link dgl 4500 has a gigabit wan which is like the ethernet port and I cannot connect it with the normal wan cable. What should i do? Do i have to buy another modem and then connect the router with the modem and the pc? Or there is a way to connect the d-link without any other modem or something?
Thanks again
 
Need to get terminology straight first...

WAN = Wide Area Network... the port labeled WAN on your router is for your DSL modem to plug into. The DSL modem probably also has a WAN port, which is what your phone line plugs into.

The other ports on your router are for LAN (Local Area Network) connections... computers, etc.

So now... it sounds like your existing equipment from your ISP is a modem + router + switch and has an RJ11 (phone) port and your new D-Link doesn't? If so, that's normal because the D-Link device is just a router + switch, not a modem + router + switch like the one you got from your ISP. You'll need to use both.
 
You are pretty good at this😀. Nice you are right. If so do you recommend to buy a new expensive modem or use the one I have now form my isp which is modem+router+switch? Am i going to have any drawbacks using the one I have now? The reason I bought the dlink was to have the best internet quality and speed possible.
 
Thanks. Modems don't make a big difference unless your ISP is giving you over 10 Mbit, which I kinda doubt with DSL.

What that D-Link router will do for you is provide Gigabit access between the computers on your LAN which is nice if you stream a lot of video or audio or transfer large files between your computers. It will also provide QoS (Quality of Service) so that your gaming sessions aren't slowed down by someone else on your network downloading or uploading a large file.
 
May be you should post the name and model of whatever your ISP gave you, and explain clearly what you would like to do.

It would take many years before a regular user will make a use of WAN Giga port.
 
Basically my problems are that this my current router I have almost 10 sn margin which is very bad which means that my router locks to 10-13 mbps. My connection provides 24 mbps (theoretically). What I was thinking of was to change my network router-modem with something better and more stable so than I could have better results. If you know I would be very glad if you could tell me how to fix or enhance my sn margin and attenuation so as to get the best possible results. I got in touch with my isp and they say that the problem is theirs and it depends on the lines they connect with me. Although this may be true a friend living by my house has far better sn margin,attenuation,latency and ping (almost half) than I do. So what do you think?
 
Also I forgot to mention that I stream on to my ps3 from my pc several times a week music and videos but that doesnt mean that i need gigabit wan. What i really want to improve is network speed and stability.
 
Originally posted by: muSt
Also I forgot to mention that I stream on to my ps3 from my pc several times a week music and videos but that doesnt mean that i need gigabit wan. What i really want to improve is network speed and stability.
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Find out what hardware he's using.
 
I'm not understanding what you are trying to accomplish? I get that you have a DSL connection, but what problems are you having right now and what are you trying to accomplish? There is no residential ISP's in the US that offer anything that will let a Gigabit WAN be of any importance. I don't think there are even any 100mb residential ISP's in the US yet.
 
I dont care so much about gigabit wan. As I said before I need the best hardware for my internet connection so that I will sure I can get the maximum performance.
 
with a DSL connection, any router should handle it. Unfortunately DSL is not a super fast connection. Obviously if you get a cheap router though, you'll get cheap performance. With the dlink you said you have, that should give the best performance you can have. Don't expect LAN speeds with a 2-5mb DSL service though cause it's not gonna happen.
 
I wanted to ask you some more things. The current modem+router+switch (speedtouch 585v6 i got form my isp) doesn't interfere with my new dlink?.. meaning slowing its speed. What I have in my mind is dslam>speedtouch(the slow) >dink dgl4500 (the fast)>speedtouch>dslam. That means that i receive packets from my isp then going into the speedtouch (i have issues with) and then going to the dlink router. After that the packets that have been "fixed" from the router go back again to the modem(speedtouch) and "fixed" twice before being send to the dslam. That means that with or without the dlink I will have the same results. I know that my thought isn't right (partially i think) but if someone has time and knows i would be glad to know more about this issue. If there are issues then should I buy a new modem being placed for that reason and only? (working with the dlink exclusively)

I admit I am a bit noob with that kind of technology but with your help I may get to know some things.


Thanks very much for reading!

 
Originally posted by: muSt

I admit I am a bit noob with that kind of technology but with your help I may get to know some things
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What is "Fixed"? 😕

What do you think happens to the packet? :evil:

I an afraid that you have something on your mind that simply does not exist.

You have three options.

1. Buy your own DSL Modem connect it to the D-Link and be done with.

2. Set the D-Link with the current system as a switch with an Access Point ( Using a Wireless Router as a switch with an Access Point - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html ).

3. If the Current Combo Modem/Router can be configured to work as a transparent DSL Bridge (modem only). Configure it and use the D-link as a regular Router.
 
The modem should be able to handle the speed of the line since it's given to you by your ISP. With DSL, distance and the physical quality of the lines play a big part in the speeds you actually see. It may very well be possible that the guy 50 feet away from you gets the advertised speed, and you don't because the copper lines running to your house are older or just in worse condition. That's something you need to take up with your local telco, but they're not likely to come out there and run new cable. They're more likely to tell you exactly what you've been told her... line quality can impact bandwidth.

The router you bought is rather expensive as SOHO routers go... too expensive in my opinion. The main benefit you gain from it is QoS as I explained previously, which is becoming more and more common on routers, or by using 3rd party firmware like DD-WRT. So, to be blunt, that expensive gaming router isn't going to "fix" packets, it's just going to prioritize them so your apps that like low latency and use little bandwidth aren't interrupted by apps using a ton of bandwidth and don't care about latency.
 
So, I think I will stick with the third choice from JackMDS and see how it works. Also the thing is that my house is 6 years old so you can't say that something is old. I don't know why this is happening. Anyway thank you guys for you help.
 
Originally posted by: kevnich2
with a DSL connection, any router should handle it. Unfortunately DSL is not a super fast connection. Obviously if you get a cheap router though, you'll get cheap performance. With the dlink you said you have, that should give the best performance you can have. Don't expect LAN speeds with a 2-5mb DSL service though cause it's not gonna happen.
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That's not a fair assumption. He's obviously not from the US, and has said he's using ADSL2+. Those crazy Europeans are lightyears ahead of us in the US as far as broadband internet goes. From what I understand, 15-20mbit DSL is not uncommon there.
 
Originally posted by: drebo
Originally posted by: kevnich2
with a DSL connection, any router should handle it. Unfortunately DSL is not a super fast connection. Obviously if you get a cheap router though, you'll get cheap performance. With the dlink you said you have, that should give the best performance you can have. Don't expect LAN speeds with a 2-5mb DSL service though cause it's not gonna happen.
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That's not a fair assumption. He's obviously not from the US, and has said he's using ADSL2+. Those crazy Europeans are lightyears ahead of us in the US as far as broadband internet goes. From what I understand, 15-20mbit DSL is not uncommon there.
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He also stated above it's advertised as 24 Mbit 🙂
 
I will make it clear. ALL greek ISPs have 24 mbps and this is what they all sell except of some 2-4-8 or 12 mbps that now are going to be automatically upgraded to 24 mbps. We pay 39.99 euro for unlimited phone (to 15 countries) and unlimited internet. I download with 1.2 mbps because my router is locked there due to the very low sn margin values. If I had better rates I could download with at least 1.6-2.0 mbps from a separate good server.
 
ok, my apologies. I assumed he was in the US. If the modem you have is provided by your ISP and your not getting what you think are your advertised speeds, you need to call your ISP. Your router isn't going to be locked by anything with your modem. It'll deliver whatever speeds it can deliver based on your modem, the line conditions, DSL provider, etc.
 
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