Gigabit Ethernet Port and Broadband

JamminJimmy

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I just built a new computer with the ASUS P4P800 Deluxe and I couldn't access the internet through the port on the motherboard but I could when I used my Linksys add in card in a PCI slot. Shouldn't I be able to connect to broadband high speed cable (ATT/Comcast) by just the motherboards integrated Gigabit Ethernet port?
 

Warlord721

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You have to call your cable company and tell them you are using a new Network controller. As Comcast programs your service to the MAC address of your network card, you cannot attach your cable modem to another NIC unless you call them and have them reassign your IP to the new MAC address. It is a simple procedure and only takes a few minutes.
 

SilverBack

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If Comcast is using DHCP yes you should.
Look in your device manager and see if the integrated NIC shows up. If not it may be disabled in the BIOS or drivers need to be installed.

Warlord721
Generally the cable companies use a cable modem that gives the PC it's address. If the modem is changed , then you have to call the company and give them it's MAC address. NIC cards themselves seldom have to be updated at the company.
 

DusterAZ

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All you should have to do is reboot the cable modem each time you change your device behind the modem.
 

JamminJimmy

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Aaaah, reboot the cable modem. Why didn't I think of that. So easy yet overlooked. I'll give that a shot when I get home tonight, thanks. I do that by just turning the modem on and off right? I checked the BIOS and it said Lan Enabled. If I can get the onboard integrated Ethernet Gigabit Lan working I should get better performance then my PCI Linksys card right, like when I download huge game demos?
 

SilverBack

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Nope.

There isn't a internet connection today that can saturate a 100/mb NIC card let alone a 1000/mb.
The highest commercial downloads I've seen is cable at 3mb.
The only thing that the NIC gb connection will do is speed up things on your network at home and then only if you have a gigaswitch and the other pc's have a gigabit card also.
 

Boonesmi

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Originally posted by: SilverBack
Nope.

There isn't a internet connection today that can saturate a 100/mb NIC card let alone a 1000/mb.
The highest commercial downloads I've seen is cable at 3mb.
The only thing that the NIC gb connection will do is speed up things on your network at home and then only if you have a gigaswitch and the other pc's have a gigabit card also.
yup what he said :)

even if you used an ancient 10/mb nic your internet connection would still be the same :)
 

DragonFire

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"The highest commercial downloads I've seen is cable at 3mb"


Should look around more...... since I get 6mb/512k with my dsl. Kinda nice downloading 100 megs in under a min. :D
 

batmanuel

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Originally posted by: DragonFire
"The highest commercial downloads I've seen is cable at 3mb"


Should look around more...... since I get 6mb/512k with my dsl. Kinda nice downloading 100 megs in under a min. :D

Damn. How much is that costing you a month? Gotta be high.

 

SpaceWalker

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you should also try using another cable. Most gigabit networking needs CAT6 cable, or CAT5e, Most CAT5 cables can't be used with gigabit..
 

MichaelD

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Originally posted by: Warlord721
You have to call your cable company and tell them you are using a new Network controller. As Comcast programs your service to the MAC address of your network card, you cannot attach your cable modem to another NIC unless you call them and have them reassign your IP to the new MAC address. It is a simple procedure and only takes a few minutes.

Not saying everyone else is wrong, but Warlord721 MAY be right....depends on the cable company. The problem here is called Routing Tables. A list of MACs that are allowed on the network. Not on the list, you don't get on.

I had the exact above scenario happen to me two years ago with Time Warner (Roadrunner). I built a new box, new box had onboard NIC, so I wasnt' using the PCI NIC from the other "original" box.

Couldn't get an IP no matter how many times I reset the modem, rebooted or tried a release/renew, etc. Finally called the cable company and the tech inadvertantly explained it to me...so I researched further.

SOME cable companies program the MAC of the first NIC you use into their routing tables. You will only be able to use that NIC to get on their network. You can move that NIC to different systems and it will work, but you can't use a DIFFERENT NIC.

The way around this is:

1. Disconnect current system from the modem.
2. Buy a $40 SOHO Router/Switch/Gateway, call the cable company.
3. Tell them you got a new network adapter ("NIC" if you're on the phone w/a Level I tech...they are useless)
4. They'll reset you and when you plug your shiny new router into the modem, their routers will grab your router's MAC addy.
5. Your router/switch will do NAT on your end and you'll get all the IPs you want and the cable compnay will still only see ONE MAC addy
6. Crack cold beer and bask in the smugness of knowing you rock :cool:
 

Boonesmi

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: Warlord721
You have to call your cable company and tell them you are using a new Network controller. As Comcast programs your service to the MAC address of your network card, you cannot attach your cable modem to another NIC unless you call them and have them reassign your IP to the new MAC address. It is a simple procedure and only takes a few minutes.

Not saying everyone else is wrong, but Warlord721 MAY be right....depends on the cable company. The problem here is called Routing Tables. A list of MACs that are allowed on the network. Not on the list, you don't get on.

I had the exact above scenario happen to me two years ago with Time Warner (Roadrunner). I built a new box, new box had onboard NIC, so I wasnt' using the PCI NIC from the other "original" box.

Couldn't get an IP no matter how many times I reset the modem, rebooted or tried a release/renew, etc. Finally called the cable company and the tech inadvertantly explained it to me...so I researched further.

SOME cable companies program the MAC of the first NIC you use into their routing tables. You will only be able to use that NIC to get on their network. You can move that NIC to different systems and it will work, but you can't use a DIFFERENT NIC.

The way around this is:

1. Disconnect current system from the modem.
2. Buy a $40 SOHO Router/Switch/Gateway, call the cable company.
3. Tell them you got a new network adapter ("NIC" if you're on the phone w/a Level I tech...they are useless)
4. They'll reset you and when you plug your shiny new router into the modem, their routers will grab your router's MAC addy.
5. Your router/switch will do NAT on your end and you'll get all the IPs you want and the cable compnay will still only see ONE MAC addy
6. Crack cold beer and bask in the smugness of knowing you rock :cool:


another way around it is to just buy a router that supports mac cloneing ("my free after rebate" netgear RP614 has mac address cloning)
just go into the router setup and tell it which mac address you want it to clone... then you dont even need to call your cable/dsl company to get anythign changed
 

MichaelD

Lifer
Jan 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: Boonesmi
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: Warlord721
You have to call your cable company and tell them you are using a new Network controller. As Comcast programs your service to the MAC address of your network card, you cannot attach your cable modem to another NIC unless you call them and have them reassign your IP to the new MAC address. It is a simple procedure and only takes a few minutes.

Not saying everyone else is wrong, but Warlord721 MAY be right....depends on the cable company. The problem here is called Routing Tables. A list of MACs that are allowed on the network. Not on the list, you don't get on.

I had the exact above scenario happen to me two years ago with Time Warner (Roadrunner). I built a new box, new box had onboard NIC, so I wasnt' using the PCI NIC from the other "original" box.

Couldn't get an IP no matter how many times I reset the modem, rebooted or tried a release/renew, etc. Finally called the cable company and the tech inadvertantly explained it to me...so I researched further.

SOME cable companies program the MAC of the first NIC you use into their routing tables. You will only be able to use that NIC to get on their network. You can move that NIC to different systems and it will work, but you can't use a DIFFERENT NIC.

The way around this is:

1. Disconnect current system from the modem.
2. Buy a $40 SOHO Router/Switch/Gateway, call the cable company.
3. Tell them you got a new network adapter ("NIC" if you're on the phone w/a Level I tech...they are useless)
4. They'll reset you and when you plug your shiny new router into the modem, their routers will grab your router's MAC addy.
5. Your router/switch will do NAT on your end and you'll get all the IPs you want and the cable compnay will still only see ONE MAC addy
6. Crack cold beer and bask in the smugness of knowing you rock :cool:


another way around it is to just buy a router that supports mac cloneing ("my free after rebate" netgear RP614 has mac address cloning)
just go into the router setup and tell it which mac address you want it to clone... then you dont even need to call your cable/dsl company to get anythign changed


:Q My router supports/does this...and I forgot to mention it! :eek: /hangs head in shame He's right. :)
 

DragonFire

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Originally posted by: batmanuel
Originally posted by: DragonFire
"The highest commercial downloads I've seen is cable at 3mb"


Should look around more...... since I get 6mb/512k with my dsl. Kinda nice downloading 100 megs in under a min. :D

Damn. How much is that costing you a month? Gotta be high.




$44.95/month :)
 

slag

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Originally posted by: DragonFire
Originally posted by: batmanuel
Originally posted by: DragonFire
"The highest commercial downloads I've seen is cable at 3mb"


Should look around more...... since I get 6mb/512k with my dsl. Kinda nice downloading 100 megs in under a min. :D

Damn. How much is that costing you a month? Gotta be high.




$44.95/month :)

I think you are mistaken. 6 mb/second does not equate out to 100 megs in under a minute.

For example, reference my picture HERE. I have the 6 mb down and it peaks out around 500 KB/s.

If it takes me 56 seconds to download approx 24 mb, there is no way with 6 mb down you can get 100 megs in under a minute.
 

MichaelD

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You guys all suck!!! :p

I'm on an extended business trip....staying in a POS hotel w/40-year old wiring. I'm on dialup...and I'm lucky if I get 2KB/s :disgust: