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Ghost and Windows2k need a little help here

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I have a 30gig hd with win2k and various files that are needed for work, i want to transfer the info on that hard drive onto my 20gig so i can use the 30gig in this machine. I only have about 1gig used on the 30gig that has win2k on it, so everything not fitting on the 20gig is not the problem. It is formatted in ntfs(i think thats what it is called) When i go to run ghost right before i start the copy it says that the drive will not be bootable because of some Windows NT limitation, is there anyway to get around this or a different way to transfer the info to my other hd? Ghost worked fine transfering 98 and i would like to switch the drives on my win2k machine. Any help would be appreciated.
 
Older forms of Ghost cannot handle larger than 10-gig partitions. Use a utility like Partition Magic (>4.0) to expand the size of the partition.
 
Madrat is correct, you should either purchase Ghost version 6 or only build partitions under 8 gigs. You can then ghost with the version 5 of ghost.
 
Win2K is able to make system partitions that by previous (NT 4.0) standards were not possible. I have used Ghost 2000, Ghost 2001, and Ghost 5.X to clone NTFS partitions with no ill effects. We have recently cloned a 10 GB system partition on a Win2K machine for internal deployment using Ghost 5.X and received this message, however we have had no problems with the deployment of this image to other machines thus far.
 
I am using Ghost v5.1d i will probably go try and find a newer edition at staples today to see if that works. When i used the version of ghost i have now it makes the copy fine its just that the drive is not bootable.
 
That is odd.... We are using the same version (maybe 5.1c) at work and have not had any issues with drives not booting. Getting a newer version, preferably 2001, would not hurt particularly if you use the software frequently since 2001 adds some nice new features such as sending directly to CD-R/RW. Sorry I couldn't help out more. 🙁 Good luck!
 
I just go a new HP 9350i CDRW, and it came with a nice system back-up program that backed up everything (win98se, w2k and programs) onto 4 cdr.

I have 2 HD, 15gb(3 5gb partitions) and 8gb, and everything was fine.
 
Are you using the "-ntil" switch? (without the quotes)

I know a certain switch has to be enabled for ghost to do NTFS partitions correctly, but I cannot remember which one... pretty sure it should be started as:

A:\ghost.exe -ntil

A: being the drive that contains the ghost executable.
 
As far as newer versions go, I was under the impression that Ghost 6.5 (released August 2000) was the only version that could properly restore NTFS partitions. Others could only restore NTFS partitions to FAT32 at best. I could be wrong.

-SUO
 
SUOrangeman I think you might be right because I just tried version 6.01 and had the same problem. I can handle converting it back to fat32 though, is there a special command i have to do? Or do i do that through windows?
 
I was just reading in Win2k help that FAT32 drives can be converted to NTFS without re-formatting but NTFS cannot be converted to FAT32 without re-formatting is this true?
 
I assure you that Ghost 5.X will do NTFS partitions. The only catch is you are reimaging a PC other than the one from which the image was produced, you have to run Ghost Walker to change the SID. The Norton site does say that:



<< Versions of Ghost prior to 6.0.3 can correctly change partition sizes only on FAT16, FAT32, and NTFS (from Windows NT 4.0) partitions. When a drive is partitioned in a different format, such as the new NTFS in Windows 2000, Ghost can perform only a sector-by-sector copy. Sector-by-sector copies do not allow for changes in the geometry of the hard drive. Therefore, Ghost can be used to clone a drive to an identical drive for cloning or backup purposes. However, Ghost cannot be used to migrate a Windows 2000 partition >>



So in my case I am restoring the image to an identical PC with the exact same hardware therefore 5.x has no problems however in your case the drive geometry is different.

I just wish my place of employment were not so cost concious so that we could upgrade to the latest version. 🙂

 
Ah, so basically the 5.x versions of Ghost *COULD* do NTFS, but still are not Win2K compatible for some whack reason. Makes sense.
 
You only need unique SID's if you are running WORKGROUPS. If you run a DOMAIN, which is superior to a workgroup, then all of the PC's can use the same SID. 🙂
 
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