Gforce 3 TI200 128mb ddr $199.99

stonecold3169

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Sorry to threadcrap, but cardexpert=Gainward, and newegg has the 128mb model of the Geforce3 TI200 for $182 + 6 shipping
 

Devistater

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Newegg has that also, two versions. One by gainword and one by leadtech:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=VGA I think that link will work... if not, just click products, then vid cards and pick chipset of ti200.

Gainward/Cardexpet GeForce 3 Ti200 128MB (NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 GPU), Power Pack Golden Sample, 4ns 128MB DDR.Retail Box. Overclocking enhanced performance mode. TV-Out. Retail Box. Model#: GF3TI200 TI450-128MB Special FedEx Saver Shipping $6.00
- Product Link - Chipset Info -See It! (N82E16814128116)
(avg rating out of 15 reviews)
$182.00

Leadtek Winfast Geforce3 TI200 128MB TV/DVI(TDH) WinFast GeForce3-Ti (Titanium Chip), 128MB Memory onboard, 4ns, Supports VGA, TV & DVI-out, Hardware Monitoring. RETAIL BOX. Model#: L32000589 Special FedEx Saver Shipping $6.00
- Product Link - Chipset Info (limit 5 per customer)
-See It! (N82E16814122130)
(avg rating out of 4 reviews)
$189.00


They are cheaper at newegg :)
 

Oakenfold

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Wow, all this time newegg has had those? Man if it says TI and it ain't a 500 my eyes just keep going, interesting..
 

DestruyaUR

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Yeah, a 128MB GF3 Ti200 seems like a cool thing - but the only reason they're "limited edition" is because Gainward didn't want to take a bath on the reviews where it it'll be soundly found out that a 128MB Ti200 will do only MARGINALLY better than a 64MB Ti200. I mean, seriously, do you expect Gainward to pack ultra-expensive sub-5ns DDR onto these things? It's probably 6ns DDR...and the 515Mhz figure denotes nearly 300Mhz DDR. That stuff isn't cheap - and Gainward certainly wouldn't be smart in letting it go on a card for under 200 bucks.

Trust me, you'd be better off with a 64MB Ti200 once they start selling for 125-150. And you'd be even BETTER off with a GF4 Ti4200...if nVidia even decides to release the thing.

Past example: Dell decided it'd be a sweet idea to slap an extra 32MB of DDR onto a GF256 in the vain hopes they'd curb the fledgling "gamers" market back in 1999 - stupidly making the 64MB card available only a few weeks before the announcement of the GF2. After a massive original hype about the card, reviewers tested the thing and found that it barely beat out 32MB GF256s - not because Dell made the thing very tweak-*un*friendly, but because the core simply had little use for the extra buffer. It's the same with the GF3 Ti200. The GF4s have a 128MB frame buffer (which reviewers have called 'meaningless' on all but the Ti4600) which enables them to take advantage of more and faster RAM...the GF3s don't.

With graphics cards, more isn't always better. If the GF3s actually benefitted from 128MB of memory, you'd have seen cards with it earlier than this. Just FYI. Nice red PCB, though.
 

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nevermind, the previous 1,234,231 people just posted the same thing I did, look at newegg :)
 

BigJ

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In the Gainward case though, the 128mb version bests its 64mb counterpart by a hefty margain. This is due to the memory being overclocked out of the box. Tom's Hardware recently had a review of the 128mb cards, and here it is Geforce3 Ti200 128mb Comparison with 64mb models. In the Gainward case, it performs pretty damn close to a Geforce3 Ti500.
 

BD231

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wow, when the GF4 Ti4200 comes out that 128mb golden sample will be a steal with price cuts.
 

DestruyaUR

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<< In the Gainward case, it performs pretty damn close to a Geforce3 Ti500. >>



Yeah, but if you look at the captions to the graphs, they say it's purely due to the "Golden Sample" boards being "pre-overclocked." Usually I take Tom's reviews with a whole economy-sized BOX of salt, but Lars actually nailed it pretty well - especially in the conclusion.

Verdict: if you wanna brag about having a 128MB graphics card in your box - fine - get the 128MB Ti200s...but just realize that its not gonna improve your gaming substantially.

Still, the recent 128MB cards are, IMO, just an excuse to clear out old RAM stockpiles, get rid of GF3 cores (since nVidia is probably going to start advertising the GF4 as their new messiah in gaming mags making the GF3 look useless - as they've done with every core they've made back to the TNT2 Ultra), and sap an extra 50 bucks out of gamer's coffers.
 

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I wouldn't waste my money on GF3 Ti200 when in two months you can have twice as fast card for the same amount of money (GF4 Ti4600).
 

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<< wouldn't waste my money on GF3 Ti200 when in two months you can have twice as fast card for the same amount of money (GF4 Ti4600). >>

I agree totally but it's still NEAT!;) Maybe it's the pcb...It looks like my gainward power pack GF3 card...hmmm now if I could get me one of them Red MSI mobo's...
 

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<< Still, the recent 128MB cards are, IMO, just an excuse to clear out old RAM stockpiles, get rid of GF3 cores (since nVidia is probably going to start advertising the GF4 as their new messiah in gaming mags making the GF3 look useless - as they've done with every core they've made back to the TNT2 Ultra), and sap an extra 50 bucks out of gamer's coffers. >>



just so you guys know, most games don't even utilize a full 32 mb of ram. the reason for the hgiher amount is for TRUE 3d performance. gaming isn't the only thing that video cards are made for you know... the 128mb would probably show quite an improvement if you do a lot of stuff with 3dstudiomax, bryce, autocad, etc.

also, the golden samples are known for overlocking because they DO usually overclock better than the regular Ti's. Supposedly, they use faster ram, which allows for just a BIT better of an o/c.




<< wouldn't waste my money on GF3 Ti200 when in two months you can have twice as fast card for the same amount of money (GF4 Ti4600). >>



good luck with that one, maybe two months from now they will release the ti4200, which you will be able to find for that price. and plus, even if you could find the ti4600, by then i am sure there will be something better that you can say the same thing about, so then you would never end up getting a card. but to every man his own.

lastly, bump for a decent deal on a good card (AS OF TODAY)
 

BigJ

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<<

<< In the Gainward case, it performs pretty damn close to a Geforce3 Ti500. >>



Yeah, but if you look at the captions to the graphs, they say it's purely due to the "Golden Sample" boards being "pre-overclocked."
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I made note of that at the beginning of my statement, in case u didnt catch it the first time around.
 

popeye44

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In the past i've generally purchased video cards at a 200.00 price... If i can get a geforce4 for 200.00 which is what is expected I would in no way buy a ge3ti200 now.. regardless of how much extra ineffective ram it will have:D
 

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<< In the past i've generally purchased video cards at a 200.00 price... If i can get a geforce4 for 200.00 which is what is expected I would in no way buy a ge3ti200 now.. regardless of how much extra ineffective ram it will have:D >>



yea...what he said.
 

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Wow, DestruyaUR, it's great to have you onboard. Here's a new Junior Member who not only knows his/her stuff, but can write very well! Post often, friend, 'cause I like to lurk and learn from the likes of you. :D
 

mrEvil

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Not a crap here, but I believe I read at Toms Hardware that the extra 64MB of memory gains you (maybe) 1 FPS in the games. IMO, 1 FPS is not worth the extra $$.

Just trying to save everyone some $$.....
 

DestruyaUR

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<< Here's a new Junior Member who not only knows his/her stuff, but can write very well! Post often, friend, 'cause I like to lurk and learn from the likes of you. >>



Heh - maybe you shouldn't be listening to me; I've talked myself OUT of more "hot deals" recently then I've fallen for myself. Just common sense - there *IS* a reason why you haven't seen 128MB GF3 cards prior to the last month or two ago.
 

hoomza444

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maybe nobody read the first post i made cuz it was too long.....extra memory IS NOT GEARED TOWARDS GAMING, 128mb is for people who do a lot of 3d editting that can possibly use the extra memory bandwidth for 3d modeling and such.

if you do a lot of 3d modeling or plan to start, the extra $30 might be worth it, otherwise go for the 64mb version which is more than good enough for 95% of us out there. i mess around with 3d modeling and what not, but even with that, 32mb is okay, and i have a 64mb gf3 ti200 coming in which will be more than sufficient for my needs. 32mb is more than enough for gaming btw.
 

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Making a card 128 MB instead of 64MB does not add 'memory bandwidth'. In trying to clear up confusion or perhaps demonstrate that you are a coll cad person, you might actually be confusing the discussion. Memory bandwidth does not change and that is the problem. Video card makers are taking advantage of the fact that the number 128 looks really cool and that 128 of slower RAM is much easier to come by than 64 MB of good stuff.

Some thing that I noticed before around the time of a major video card release. Video card manufacturers tend to come out with the high memory cards in order to clear out older components that will be a hard sell with the new generation arriving. It's cheaper for them to add 64 MB memory and clear out the parts then to eat the cost of the parts. Also, recent product announcements with video cards have pushed memory speeds. Often times a video card manufacturer might be stuck with a whole lot of RAM chips taht aren't rated high enough for Nvidia reference designs lying around. I suspect this is where the idea for the GF2 Ti and GF3 Ti200 came from. That frees memory manufacturers to sell their chips to the video card makers at the highest possible ratings and for video card makers to use higher rated memory chips in their more expensive (read better margin) video cards. Anyways, just 2 cents from a nonbusiness type person.

BTB ... it never seemed like Ati used the above strategy in their cards other than the specific market segmented VEs, but with their licensing to other companies, it seems like they're starting .....

To keep some relevance ot this thread.... low level GF4 Ti for 199.99 supposedly seems to be best deal to wait for. Those will likely have 128 MB at least in some models anyway and leave any memory size discussions moot. There is no reason to spend over 150 on anything nvidia not labelled GF4 Ti for a couple months.

EDIT1: Oops, forgot. The usage of large textures is often determined as much by the chip on the card as by the maount of memory on it. Graphics chips have rated texture pixel sizes they can handle, and it's usually listed in the specs. Unless you are doing realtime animation, most graphics professionals would prefer a good cad card with antialiasing features and ligthing enhancements any day to a Geforce. time reqquired to render one high detail multilit scene is not nearly the same concept as playing quake. On a separate funny note, Nvidia really shoulda just turned the stupid Quadro features on in the cards if they were present there anyway. It appears they really succeeded in their campaign to create a pricepoint for quadro cards, considering the amount of trouble that elsa is in :D



<< maybe nobody read the first post i made cuz it was too long.....extra memory IS NOT GEARED TOWARDS GAMING, 128mb is for people who do a lot of 3d editting that can possibly use the extra memory bandwidth for 3d modeling and such.

if you do a lot of 3d modeling or plan to start, the extra $30 might be worth it, otherwise go for the 64mb version which is more than good enough for 95% of us out there. i mess around with 3d modeling and what not, but even with that, 32mb is okay, and i have a 64mb gf3 ti200 coming in which will be more than sufficient for my needs. 32mb is more than enough for gaming btw.
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