GF7800 SLI hits 22k in 3dMark05???

[Shamrock]

original source is here

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17424722&page=1&pp=30

but found it at nvnews.net
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=51755

 

[jazzboy]

22k in 3dmark05? Thats just crazy!
Are you sure he's not mixed up 3dmark05 with 3dmark03?

Anyway if thats true, then thats a helluva lot of power.

 

[Lonyo]

There's something more interesting there:

When I spoke to NV this morning they said the new range will not be on AGP!!

I heard rumours that ATi will still produce high end parts for AGP, but nVidia aren't going to?

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: jazzboy
22k in 3dmark05? Thats just crazy!
Are you sure he's not mixed up 3dmark05 with 3dmark03?

Anyway if thats true, then thats a helluva lot of power.

It also means a single card would have to reach probably 15k or more in 3D Mark, which to me sounds a little far fetched.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
There's something more interesting there:

When I spoke to NV this morning they said the new range will not be on AGP!!

I heard rumours that ATi will still produce high end parts for AGP, but nVidia aren't going to?

damn i dont want to buy a new mobo, but i really want to run a G70 .. hmm think im gonna have to get some SLI mobo now

 

[jazzboy]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: jazzboy
22k in 3dmark05? Thats just crazy!
Are you sure he's not mixed up 3dmark05 with 3dmark03?

Anyway if thats true, then thats a helluva lot of power.

It also means a single card would have to reach probably 15k or more in 3D Mark, which to me sounds a little far fetched.

I think its more like 12-13K required for a single card. If I remember rightly, SLI usually gives about an 80-90% increase in performance in 3dmark05. Anyway its still a lot.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
There's something more interesting there:

When I spoke to NV this morning they said the new range will not be on AGP!!

I heard rumours that ATi will still produce high end parts for AGP, but nVidia aren't going to?

Kind of makes sense as most high end rigs will probably be using the latest chipsets and thus wont have an AGP slot anyways.

Why produce a volume part for a small % of the market?

Sure there are some who will want to retrofit but most who are the fringe will be building new rigs.

 

[Regs]

Kind of makes sense as most high end rigs will probably be using the latest chipsets and thus wont have an AGP slot anyways.

What world is this? Oh yeah, Anandtech world 🙂

 

[ryanv12]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Lonyo
There's something more interesting there:

When I spoke to NV this morning they said the new range will not be on AGP!!

I heard rumours that ATi will still produce high end parts for AGP, but nVidia aren't going to?

Kind of makes sense as most high end rigs will probably be using the latest chipsets and thus wont have an AGP slot anyways.

Why produce a volume part for a small % of the market?

Sure there are some who will want to retrofit but most who are the fringe will be building new rigs.

Well, whoever produces a part for AGP will get my business. I just don't see why I should have to buy another motherboard. On AMD's side, PCI-E motherboards hardly offer any immediate benefits unless you want to do SLI.

 

[McArra]

Originally posted by: ryanv12

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Lonyo
There's something more interesting there:

When I spoke to NV this morning they said the new range will not be on AGP!!

I heard rumours that ATi will still produce high end parts for AGP, but nVidia aren't going to?

Kind of makes sense as most high end rigs will probably be using the latest chipsets and thus wont have an AGP slot anyways.

Why produce a volume part for a small % of the market?

Sure there are some who will want to retrofit but most who are the fringe will be building new rigs.

Well, whoever produces a part for AGP will get my business. I just don't see why I should have to buy another motherboard. On AMD's side, PCI-E motherboards hardly offer any immediate benefits unless you want to do SLI.

Agreem if there's only one company making AGP I will buy it even if ti isn't the very best.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Lonyo
There's something more interesting there:

When I spoke to NV this morning they said the new range will not be on AGP!!

I heard rumours that ATi will still produce high end parts for AGP, but nVidia aren't going to?

Kind of makes sense as most high end rigs will probably be using the latest chipsets and thus wont have an AGP slot anyways.

Why produce a volume part for a small % of the market?

Sure there are some who will want to retrofit but most who are the fringe will be building new rigs.

So, if I want to buy a *mostly* new rig, say a socket 939 rig, with AMD 3500+ or so, and I don't want to buy a new graphics card yet, because there are future ones just round the corner, and instead I want to use my existing AGP card, you're saying I shouldn't be able to?
Socket 939 board w/nForce 3 (AGP) <-- made by nVidia chipset, obviously.
I would guess the nForce 3 is now an old chipset, which sucks, especially when it has capability to support recent CPU's.

Why produce a volume part for a small market? Well, volume parts would be the mid range (although we know nothing about whether these will be AGP and PCIe or just PCIe), so talking about volume parts is silly.
I am possibly planning on getting a 939 rig with nForce 3 in it, depending on whether there are new cards out by the time I buy my new PC or not.
If I can get a next gen PCIe card by then, I will, if not, I will need to keep using AGP and get a next gen card in AGP when they are out.

Looks like I'm not the only one who would like an AGP version of next gen cards either.

 

[rise]

here's the real love in Gibbo's replies....

In essence we shall have BFG, Leadtek and XFX 7800 series products available in stock on NV launch or there abouts. As were now an official launch partner we can't put the products on pre-order until official launch date but what will happen is that we will have stock wheras other E-Tailors will not.

Yes we are under NDA but I can drop little hints here and there and yes we will have ample stock on launch day in our warehouse ready for shipping and collection from BFG, Leadtek and XFX. Well lets at least hope the couriers don't mess up but NV have allocated us stock and our partners have honored our allocation which is plenty.

Whatever it is the fact is stock will be available from day of launch, which is the day the NDA expires.
We will have a lot of product in stock and NV assure us that if any allocation issues appear it will only be within the first 2 weeks but from the quantity we are getting I doubt this will happen as nVidia don't seem to have any production issues with this new card.

sweeet.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
There's something more interesting there:

When I spoke to NV this morning they said the new range will not be on AGP!!

I heard rumours that ATi will still produce high end parts for AGP, but nVidia aren't going to?

Sounds like a big load of BS . . . they don't dare neglect AGP this gen
:roll:

:thumbsdown:

now we're quoting other forums for "news" 😛
:disgust:

Why don't i make up something right now? You'll be able to google it in a few minutes
:shocked:

 

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: jazzboy
22k in 3dmark05? Thats just crazy!
Are you sure he's not mixed up 3dmark05 with 3dmark03?

Anyway if thats true, then thats a helluva lot of power.

It also means a single card would have to reach probably 15k or more in 3D Mark, which to me sounds a little far fetched.

Either that or they have made some major driver improvements for SLI's efficiency.

But regardless, rumor, we shall see if it brings the bacon when the time comes.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Lonyo
There's something more interesting there:

When I spoke to NV this morning they said the new range will not be on AGP!!

I heard rumours that ATi will still produce high end parts for AGP, but nVidia aren't going to?

Sounds like a big load of BS . . . they don't dare neglect AGP this gen
:roll:

:thumbsdown:

now we're quoting other forums for "news" 😛
:disgust:

Why don't i make up something right now? You'll be able to google it in a few minutes
:shocked:

Or someone could ring up nVidia and ask for a confirmation/denial of it?
Quoting another forum. A poster from that forum. A poster who buys graphics cards from nVidia to resell. You would assume that a reseller would have *some* idea of future product lines from a manufacturer. Slightly more reliable than just any random forum person.

 

[g3pro]

I've been wanting to get a PCI-E board for some time. It might just be here.

If nVidia did only PCI-X at launch, that would make a whole lot of sense. The people most likely to buy the expensive cards at launch already have their nice spiffy boards to handle 'em. They are also more likely to do SLI. They can release cheap AGP cards later on when the yields on the chips call for it.

If nVidia has this much stuff in stock at launch, ATi is in a whole lot of hot water.

 

[Muhadib]

22k!!!?!!?!?!?!?

There go my nipples again.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Lonyo
There's something more interesting there:

When I spoke to NV this morning they said the new range will not be on AGP!!

I heard rumours that ATi will still produce high end parts for AGP, but nVidia aren't going to?

Sounds like a big load of BS . . . they don't dare neglect AGP this gen
:roll:

:thumbsdown:

now we're quoting other forums for "news" 😛
:disgust:

Why don't i make up something right now? You'll be able to google it in a few minutes
:shocked:

Or someone could ring up nVidia and ask for a confirmation/denial of it?
Quoting another forum. A poster from that forum. A poster who buys graphics cards from nVidia to resell. You would assume that a reseller would have *some* idea of future product lines from a manufacturer. Slightly more reliable than just any random forum person.

well, now i'll finally tell you the truth . . . i just got fired as the one of the g70 designers for nVidia and am going to work for ATi next month.



Of COURSE you BELIEVE me?!
:roll:

:thumbsdown:

 

[dawks]

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Lonyo
There's something more interesting there:

When I spoke to NV this morning they said the new range will not be on AGP!!

I heard rumours that ATi will still produce high end parts for AGP, but nVidia aren't going to?

damn i dont want to buy a new mobo, but i really want to run a G70 .. hmm think im gonna have to get some SLI mobo now

I've gotta ask.. you already have a great video card.. and now you want to buy another new mobo ($150 USD?) and another new video card(s) ($350+) just for better scores in 3D mark and slightly better framerates? 60+ FPS RULES ME. (e-penis growing 😛)

I question some peoples intelligence sometimes.. heheh 🙂

I finally upgraded from a Radeon 7500 to an X800XL and im shitting about how much it cost.. I could have gotten and fully functional Xbox and 2-4 games for as much as that card cost.

 

[GTaudiophile]

One of the few people, if not the only person, who knows the truth behind R520 and G70 is Anand.

I'll wait for the reviews. All this speculation is BS.

 

[g3pro]

That's why you never, ever buy the top of the line of a new generation ($500+) because you pay a $200 premium for a few more FPS. Personally, I'm thinking about going straight to a new board for a 7800 GT and then waiting a few months or more and buying another GT. New mobo, processor, RAM, etc are really gonna set me back, but my mobo/proc is over 4 years old in terms of technology. 2 years old by purchase time.

 

[GTaudiophile]

I was waiting for R520, but if a ATI X800XL runs BF2 just fine at 1600x1200 with 4X FSAA and all the eye candy, I have no reason to buy R520.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: dawks

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Lonyo
There's something more interesting there:

When I spoke to NV this morning they said the new range will not be on AGP!!

I heard rumours that ATi will still produce high end parts for AGP, but nVidia aren't going to?

damn i dont want to buy a new mobo, but i really want to run a G70 .. hmm think im gonna have to get some SLI mobo now

I've gotta ask.. you already have a great video card.. and now you want to buy another new mobo ($150 USD?) and another new video card(s) ($350+) just for better scores in 3D mark and slightly better framerates? 60+ FPS RULES ME. (e-penis growing 😛)

I question some peoples intelligence sometimes.. heheh 🙂

I finally upgraded from a Radeon 7500 to an X800XL and im shitting about how much it cost.. I could have gotten and fully functional Xbox and 2-4 games for as much as that card cost.

yeah well looking to sell the GFX card to a mate .. i paid £300 for it .. he gives me £250 .. i lose £50 thats a good deal 😉 and ive been looking to purchase SLI anyway .. just got to choose which mobo i want .... and yes i do have a big e-penis .. haha 😛

 

[otispunkmeyer]

well im a firm fan of Nvidia now, before i could bat for both teams, but a good experience with nvidia this time round has left me with the feeling that ill buy nvidia again

but if theres no agp parts then damn, im gonna have to get a new CPU, Mobo and PSU. whats even more annoying is that my system (A64 3200, skt 754, gig of ram, AGP 6800GT) in the real world is just as fast as the socket 939 PCI - E version. why did they have to move sockets so fast.

my only hope is, some company releases a skt 754 board with an NF4 chipset and PCI-E .. that would be good.

my 6800GT should tide me over for a while yet......and if it is ATI being the only ones to offer AGP parts, then im sorry but id have to buy ATI

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: dawks
I question some peoples intelligence sometimes.. heheh 🙂

I finally upgraded from a Radeon 7500 to an X800XL and im shitting about how much it cost.. I could have gotten and fully functional Xbox and 2-4 games for as much as that card cost.

yeah well looking to sell the GFX card to a mate .. i paid £300 for it .. he gives me £250 .. i lose £50 thats a good deal 😉 and ive been looking to purchase SLI anyway .. just got to choose which mobo i want .... and yes i do have a big e-penis .. haha 😛

how tired is that arguement... "why upgrade, my 5200 has been great to me" who cares? its my damn money and i can spend it any way i like. is it any different than people who spend $500 on a barbeque grill when a $99 will work? or eat at a fine restaurant rather than a ground round? not much nutritional difference but one certainly tastes better. (starting to get hungry....)

anyway, spend your money any way you want. i don't know why people think enthusiasts just throw the older card in a closet, i know i sell mine. even if they don't who cares, i/they obviously enjoy the new technology, talking about it, playing with it. its not a matter of e-penis.