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getting legitimate windows xp pro oem. can install on mutliple comps?

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craniumdesigns

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hey guys,

so with all the new windows activation restrictions, having an illegitimate copy of windows xp pro is getting harder to deal with. i'm just gonna buy an oem version. question!

can i install it on 2 computers? i want one install on my desktop and one on my laptop. thanks!
 
******! thats lame.
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What's lame is that you didn't spend any time looking into the real licensing restrictions. Virtually every piece of commercial software requires 1 license per machine, why should MS be any different?
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
******! thats lame.
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What's lame is that you didn't spend any time looking into the real licensing restrictions. Virtually every piece of commercial software requires 1 license per machine, why should MS be any different?
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I liked Interplay's old licensing/EULA agreement: they specifically allowed you to let your friends install the game on their computers 😀
 
I liked Interplay's old licensing/EULA agreement: they specifically allowed you to let your friends install the game on their computers
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Even if that's true, they're the exception and not the rule =)
 
Originally posted by: Bugalaman
no, whats really lame is Micro$oft for charging $150+ for a $.10 CD and plastic wrap
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That isn't true. They are charging you $00.10 for the CD and plastic wrap the remaining $149.90 is for the license to use the Software that is on the CD on one computer.

I don't understand why people don't get it?

pcgeek11
 
Originally posted by: Bugalaman
no, whats really lame is Micro$oft for charging $150+ for a $.10 CD and plastic wrap
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19 posts in 5 years was enough, we really didn't need # 20.
 
no, whats really lame is Micro$oft for charging $150+ for a $.10 CD and plastic wrap
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If the software on the disc is really worth nothing, lets see you come up with something comparable.
 
Adobe does allow for installation of some of their products on two different machines, usually a desktop PC and a notebook, with the assumption that the same user is using both machines, though not at exactly the same time.

Given the scenario of having a desktop at home and going mobile with a notebook, that at least is an enlightened approach. Again, definitely not the rule.

To the OP: Unless you get a Volume License, you're gonna need two licenses.
 
Originally posted by: networkman
Adobe does allow for installation of some of their products on two different machines, usually a desktop PC and a notebook, with the assumption that the same user is using both machines, though not at exactly the same time.

Given the scenario of having a desktop at home and going mobile with a notebook, that at least is an enlightened approach. Again, definitely not the rule.

To the OP: Unless you get a Volume License, you're gonna need two licenses.
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MS Office also lets you install on multiple computers you own (I think up to 3), as long as you're not using it on multiple systems at once. Not Windows itself, though.
 
Originally posted by: Bugalaman
no, whats really lame is Micro$oft for charging $150+ for a $.10 CD and plastic wrap
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We all know the cost of the OS is clearly the packaging and physical CD costs. :disgust:
 
Originally posted by: Matthias99
MS Office also lets you install on multiple computers you own (I think up to 3), as long as you're not using it on multiple systems at once. Not Windows itself, though.
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Is that all versions or just the Student and Teacher Edition or whatever they're calling it these days?
 
Originally posted by: craniumdesigns
hey guys,

so with all the new windows activation restrictions, having an illegitimate copy of windows xp pro is getting harder to deal with. i'm just gonna buy an oem version. question!

can i install it on 2 computers? i want one install on my desktop and one on my laptop. thanks!
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You would be right back to illegitimate again. Plus OEM is sold with a computer/mobo so if you already have computers that didn't come with one, both copies would be illegitimate.
 
Someone needs to sue and get Microsoft under control. I have actually had the activation people tell me on the phone that if I change a motherboard, the copy of windows is no longer valid. BS. They have also told me that after some time and re-installs, that a copy just may not be valid with that motherboard any more.

I just love how Microsoft thinks if a PC dies, the copy of Windows dies with it. They need to stop whoring those C.O.A.'s out to Dell for $15 a pop while raping the general public for $95 a whack to install the same frekin thing.
 
Originally posted by: Matt1970
Someone needs to sue and get Microsoft under control. I have actually had the activation people tell me on the phone that if I change a motherboard, the copy of windows is no longer valid. BS. They have also told me that after some time and re-installs, that a copy just may not be valid with that motherboard any more.

I just love how Microsoft thinks if a PC dies, the copy of Windows dies with it. They need to stop whoring those C.O.A.'s out to Dell for $15 a pop while raping the general public for $95 a whack to install the same frekin thing.
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I have replaced 2 motherboards in 2 computers because the PSU sucked big time. MS gave me the reactivation codes over the phone. One was a US call center and the other one was India. Both were Dell OEM keys.
 
Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: Matthias99
MS Office also lets you install on multiple computers you own (I think up to 3), as long as you're not using it on multiple systems at once. Not Windows itself, though.
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Is that all versions or just the Student and Teacher Edition or whatever they're calling it these days?
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Here's the page to look up license terms:

http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/useterms/default.aspx

Office Student & Teacher 2003 says it can be installed on up to three systems in the same household for non-commercial use.

Office 2007 Basic says:

2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. Before you use the software under a license,
you must assign that license to one device. That device is the ?licensed
device.? A hardware partition or blade is considered to be a separate device.
a. Licensed Device. You may install and use one copy of the software on the
licensed device.
b. Portable Device. You may install another copy on a portable device for
use by the single primary user of the licensed device.
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A "portable device" is not defined here, but presumably means something like a laptop.
 
Originally posted by: gsellis
Originally posted by: Matt1970
Someone needs to sue and get Microsoft under control. I have actually had the activation people tell me on the phone that if I change a motherboard, the copy of windows is no longer valid. BS. They have also told me that after some time and re-installs, that a copy just may not be valid with that motherboard any more.

I just love how Microsoft thinks if a PC dies, the copy of Windows dies with it. They need to stop whoring those C.O.A.'s out to Dell for $15 a pop while raping the general public for $95 a whack to install the same frekin thing.
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I have replaced 2 motherboards in 2 computers because the PSU sucked big time. MS gave me the reactivation codes over the phone. One was a US call center and the other one was India. Both were Dell OEM keys.
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If you "change" the motherboard (that is, you installed a different model of motherboard), their position is that the OEM license cannot be used with that system anymore -- it's now a "new" system. The exception is if you changed the motherboard because the old one died and you can't get an exact replacement anymore. Now, in practice, frequently they will allow you to reactive OEM licenses even if you change the motherboard and tell them you did that. What they are really concerned about is big companies reselling OEM licenses in bulk separate from the original hardware, not individuals upgrading their OEM PCs.

You can reinstall as much as you want and change as much other hardware as you want. They've semi-officially set motherboard changes as the threshold for having a 'new system'.

If you don't like it, either don't use MS products, or buy retail versions. They sell Dell (and you) those cheap OEM copies under the assumption that they won't be resold later and used on other systems.
 
Originally posted by: Matt1970
Someone needs to sue and get Microsoft under control. I have actually had the activation people tell me on the phone that if I change a motherboard, the copy of windows is no longer valid. BS. They have also told me that after some time and re-installs, that a copy just may not be valid with that motherboard any more.

I just love how Microsoft thinks if a PC dies, the copy of Windows dies with it. They need to stop whoring those C.O.A.'s out to Dell for $15 a pop while raping the general public for $95 a whack to install the same frekin thing.
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Then don't accept the >50% discount for buying OEM and purchase a retail copy. This way you aren't under these restrcitions. Otherwise, if you accept the discount, in return for that you accept the license term.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Bugalaman
no, whats really lame is Micro$oft for charging $150+ for a $.10 CD and plastic wrap
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We all know the cost of the OS is clearly the packaging and physical CD costs. :disgust:
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OK, sarcasm. However, Microsoft is hugely rich. They are the 2000 # gorilla of the computer world. If they got every dollar that their EULA entiled them to, they'd probably own the planet. They are indeed getting cheated out of billions of dollars. Poor, poor Microsoft.

Originally posted by: networkman
Adobe does allow for installation of some of their products on two different machines, usually a desktop PC and a notebook, with the assumption that the same user is using both machines, though not at exactly the same time.

Given the scenario of having a desktop at home and going mobile with a notebook, that at least is an enlightened approach. Again, definitely not the rule.

To the OP: Unless you get a Volume License, you're gonna need two licenses.
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Ah, well, what if I want to multiboot my desktop for troubleshooting purposes. That is, have XP installed on two different partitions of the same machine. Is that against the EULA?

The licensing scheme with XP is the reason I haven't bought it. It scares me. I'm using Windows 2000 on this machine.
 
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