Getting it stuck to me by "The Tax Man" from 8yrs ago

911paramedic

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(See below for update.)


I tried to get an earnings statement thing-a-ma-bob from them for a student loan, so I called and asked if they could send one and they replied "That SSN isn't attached to that name."

:shocked:

After about ten minutes of talking (and She kept saying "I'm sorry, I cant say anything about that users returns because they aren't yours.") We finally got back to a point where I am on a return with that SSN, along with my ex-wife. So now, the number is hers even though she remarried and that name doesn't even really exist anymore. (Jane Doe, changed to Jane Smith when she married me, changed back to Jane Doe after divorce.) It's attached to "Jane Smith".

I said I've been filing returns, getting licenses, LOOKING AT MY SS CARD, etc. She just kept saying "It's not yours.", so I ask "What is my number then?" (wondering if I now have the ex's) She said there are too many Joe Smiths (not my real name, just to follow the example) to know.

So I go to the SS office, which was really fun, and got a certified letter from them saying that was my SSN, and they even sent me a new card.

I take that to the IRS office, along with my divorce papers that has a copy of my ex's drivers license and SS card on one page. The man punches it into the computer and mumbles "Hmmm..." and that's it. I start asking him questions like I did on the phone and he gives me the same "It's not your SSN so I can't say anything further." routine.

Fvck! :|

But he sees that it "belongs to somebody else" and that he will send all this information (and he didn't want a copy of her drivers license and SS card, wtf) to the main office to get it straightened out.

Yesterday I get a letter addressed to my ex from the IRS. It says "Dear Jane Smith, is this your current address? If not please fill out the enclosed form and return it." WTF is that going to do? So I called the IRS again (forgot it was W2 day, after being on hold for about 45 minutes) so I hung up. I need to go back to the office Tuesday with that letter and see if there is anything else I can do. (School all day Monday in a different city, 23 units in total.)

Cliffs:
1. If you are reading this you are lazy.
2. IRS says my SSN isn't mine, says it belongs to my ex-wife.
3. Showed them a certified letter, issued that day, from the SS office saying it was mine.
4. IRS is straightening it out by sending a change your address form, to her, at my house.
5. I need the form the college requested before the loan deadline, or I am SOL.
6. This may have intrigued you enough to read the entire story. :)

So, any bright ideas on how to fix this. Any IRS employees in the house? (that want to admit it during tax season)



Update---------------------------------------------------------------------------------


So, yesterday was fun, spent about two hours with them. My sister started asking all these questions and the IRS guy asks, "Why isn't he asking these questions?", and "Who exactly are you?" LMAO (If you didn't read my earlier post, she is a CFO with a masters in business finance and accounting)

Well, apparently she was asking the correct questions and figured out there were some 1099's on there that the guy could tell me about. And, as it turns out, they were going to send out a letter in a week (according to him) demanding the taxes on a large some of unreported money. (I was day trading, like thousands and tens of thousands of shares at a time.)

Who knew the IRS gets a copy of the 1099 but it only shows the SELL price. So, for all they know it's all profit. (I had to march my butt over to schwabb and get the old copies and fill out a NEW return last night. Well, actually my sister was kind enough to whip it out while I was spending 5 hours in a C++ class.) So, I'm not who I say I am, but they can hit me up for penalties??? W---T---F???

It also turns out that he showed a "married filing jointly" for the year we got divorced, and I know for a fact that I didn't even file. (see paragraph above, my trading yielded a net loss of ~1,000, so I didn't have to. Bad year, end of bubble.) She may have even asked me if I was going to file, and when I said no, she filed jointly for the extra deduction. (She did some sketchy things on hers while we were married too, which explains partly why we got divorced, I couldn't trust her.)

The end result, filed the old return so I don't get hit for 20K in taxes, plus penalties over the last six years, and file a form that will give me the tax records for the years we were married and "filed jointly". I have to drive to another city this morning, drop them off at 8:30, and then drive back here for ten hours of school.

Summation: If she did file jointly after our divorce, not only will it clear my name but she is going to be in a WORLD of hurt from the man. (I don't really want that, but they will seriously penalize her for that and probably audit the shit out of her, and she really abuses the deductions.)

To be continued...
 

Jeff7

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:thumbsup: for government.

I guess in divorces, they don't just split up assets, but now they give your identity over to your ex.:Q


Or maybe you don't have to pay taxes anymore, since you apparently don't exist in the system anymore.:D



Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Quit paying taxes until they FIX the issue. It will be resolved tomorrow.
That'll get them to straighten it out in a hurry, just in time to issue an arrest warrant. Then if you try to appeal, your attorney will say he can't help you anymore, as your SSN isn't yours.
 

911paramedic

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LOL, I would but you know how it goes with the IRS. It would eventually get fixed and I would get hit with tons of late charges and penalties.

Meanwhile, I can't really do anything because I don't exist in the IRS's eyes. The college cannot proceed without that one form from the IRS, not even an earnings statement from the SS office will do.

It's a huge fustercluck, and I really doubt it will get fixed in time for a student loan/grant which is due in almost exactly a month at the latest.

Owned by the Man...
 

jiggahertz

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I'm surprised it wasn't the SS office that screwed things up. My federal e-file got reject last year because I gave the incorrect birth date. Apparently the SS office transposed the digits (13th instead of 31st). I was hoping they got the year wrong so I could start getting SS benefits.
 

JujuFish

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Obviously someone in the IRS also visits ATOT, and is merely getting revenge on you for bringing the Plane on a Conveyor Belt problem here. :evil:
 

911paramedic

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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Obviously someone in the IRS also visits ATOT, and is merely getting revenge on you for bringing the Plane on a Conveyor Belt problem here. :evil:
:beer::D

 

911paramedic

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Well, this is actually going to help me clear up a few things at school. There are three classes from many years ago on my record that I never took, or even knew about. (which I also have to try to prove wasn't me to the school board. One is easy, I was working full time in SF.)

I also had my license suspended in mid/late '97 because somebody else with the same name as me wasn't paying child support, so they hit me. I had to go to the DA's office and try to say it wasn't me, they were "Yeah, right." We finally had to call the mother in Washington or Oregon and she described what he looked like, obviously it wasn't me. They gave me a certified letter apologizing for the mix-up, kind of hard to work as a paramedic without a drivers license. I would have lost my job over that one.
 

911paramedic

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Going to the IRS today, wish me luck.

My sister said she wants to go with me because she can get something done about it, which may be true.

She has a masters in business finance and accounting, and is the CFO for an international company. It's pretty funny watching her work because she is so up to date on all the laws, she even gets bank employees to quiver when they try to pull things over on her. She had a bank give her the funds for a check once before it even cleared the issuing bank, lol.
 

SunnyD

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Good luck. Just think, now you have to jump all over your credit reports and stuff too, if you're lucky whoever they think is you has stellar credit... The fun will NEVER cease. I personally say, go to the Social Security Office and demand a new number.
 

911paramedic

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It shouldn't effect my credit, there is no "Jane Smith" anymore, she is back to her maiden name (or her new husbands name).

So, yesterday was fun, spent about two hours with them. My sister started asking all these questions and the IRS guy asks, "Why isn't he asking these questions?", and "Who exactly are you?" LMAO

Well, apparently she was asking the correct questions and figured out there were some 1099's on there that the guy could tell me about. And, as it turns out, they were going to send out a letter in a week (according to him) demanding the taxes on a large some of unreported money. (I was day trading, like thousands and tens of thousands of shares at a time.)

Who knew the IRS gets a copy of the 1099 but it only shows the SELL price. So, for all they know it's all profit. (I had to march my butt over to schwabb and get the old copies and fill out a NEW return last night. Well, actually my sister was kind enough to whip it out while I was spending 5 hours in a C++ class.) So, I'm not who I say I am, but they can hit me up for penalties??? W---T---F???

It also turns out that he showed a "married filing jointly" for the year we got divorced, and I know for a fact that I didn't even file. (see paragraph above, my trading yielded a net loss of ~1,000, so I didn't have to. Bad year, end of bubble.) She may have even asked me if I was going to file, and when I said no, she filed jointly for the extra deduction. (She did some sketchy things on hers while we were married too, which explains partly why we got divorced, I couldn't trust her.)

The end result, filed the old return so I don't get hit for 20K in taxes, plus penalties over the last six years, and file a form that will give me the tax records for the years we were married and "filed jointly". I have to drive to another city this morning, drop them off at 8:30, and then drive back here for ten hours of school.

Summation: If she did file jointly after our divorce, not only will it clear my name but she is going to be in a WORLD of hurt from the man. (I don't really want that, but they will seriously penalize her for that and probably audit the shit out of her, and she really abuses the deductions.)

To be continued...
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
It shouldn't effect my credit, there is no "Jane Smith" anymore, she is back to her maiden name (or her new husbands name).
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(She did some sketchy things on hers while we were married too, which explains partly why we got divorced, I couldn't trust her)

It sounds to me like you SHOULD worry about your credit too.

Like I said, you'd probably be better serviced by just getting a new SSN, especially if both the IRS and the Social Security offices seem to have problems with you being who you say you are. It would probably be the easiest route to take honestly.
 

911paramedic

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The social security office gave me a certified letter stating it was my correct number, that's what I took to the IRS to prove it was mine. (along with letters to me from them, old returns, ORIGINAL birth certificate, military DD214, etc, etc,)

The SS office is fine, its the IRS that is all fooked up.
 

Chadder007

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Really you shouldn't be paying them at all anyway considering there was never a law made to state that you have to pay Federal Income Tax. The IRS is a fraud.
 

jandrews

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Really you shouldn't be paying them at all anyway considering there was never a law made to state that you have to pay Federal Income Tax. The IRS is a fraud.

.......
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Really you shouldn't be paying them at all anyway considering there was never a law made to state that you have to pay Federal Income Tax. The IRS is a fraud.

Hey Wesley...what's up?

 

911paramedic

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Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Moral of story: You are an idiot. Hire someone to do your taxes next time.

Moral of the story, you didn't read the story.

I DIDN'T DO THE FILING, my ex filed jointly after out divorce so she could get the extra deductions. Its called fraud, had NOTHING to do with me.
 

waffleironhead

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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Moral of story: You are an idiot. Hire someone to do your taxes next time.

Moral of the story, you didn't read the story.

I DIDN'T DO THE FILING, my ex filed jointly after out divorce so she could get the extra deductions. Its called fraud, had NOTHING to do with me.

I read the story...
The question is: why didnt you file a return that year? You are telling me you had no income? No tax that was withheld?

Im not understanding why you felt no need to file a return yourself.
 

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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Moral of story: You are an idiot. Hire someone to do your taxes next time.

Moral of the story, you didn't read the story.

I DIDN'T DO THE FILING, my ex filed jointly after out divorce so she could get the extra deductions. Its called fraud, had NOTHING to do with me.

If she filed electronically, you may have a problem fighting it. You will need to provide the divorce papers to protect yourself.

If she filed on paper, your signature better not match.


This is also why it is best to file even if you do not owe or have a refund. You numbers are recorded.

Had you filed, a flag would have been raised when two returns had the same SS# on it and the issue would have been cleared up immediately.