Getting back into photography ...Nikon D70

ultravox

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
2,072
12
81
Although I have about 10 yrs of 35MM photgraphy under my belt I stopped completely for around 20 yrs and just recently bought myself a Nikon D70 SLR. Eevn on auto I have 6 bazillion adjustement I can make. WTF is this white balance chit ??

I have always used manual Nikons but this one I just can't seem to get the hang of. If I use it in full idiot-auto , my back-lit shots come out too dark . If I try it in manual, the sky is washed out. In the old days I would give it an F- stop more and maybe use a little fill-in flash to keep the background from washing out but it doesn't seem to work with the digital. I have a feeling it could be my metering settings. What's better for backlit stuff ... a center-weighted metering or around the edges of the frame or which of the other six million ways could/should it be set to ?
How important is white-balance ?

If anybody here has a D70 I would like to hear their experiences with it especially someone who is old-school 35MM ..
 

PurdueRy

Lifer
Nov 12, 2004
13,837
4
0
white balance is telling the camera what exactly the neutral color should be(I don't claim to be an expert)

But its basically an issue in studio lighting only
 

Rubycon

Madame President
Aug 10, 2005
17,768
485
126
Film - F6
Dig - D20.

:)

No instamatics unless you want to include the 110 point and shoot. :p
 

tami

Lifer
Nov 14, 2004
11,588
3
81
good choice on the camera. dpreview has a whole forum dedicated to d70s, so you should really look into that. unfortunately, i started with a d70 (and with two books, the magic lanterns guide to the d70 and bryan peterson's understanding exposure) so i can't really help you as an old 35mm photographer. you probably don't need peterson's book (it basically starts you from ground up, defining aperature, exposure, ISO, and the like), but he does address all those questions you ask. it's also pretty cheap and serves as a good reference :)

good luck, and there are a few of us who use the d70 religiously, including Anubis, virtuamike, aphex, kitkit201, and faenix. (i hope i am not forgetting anyone!) i think anubis started on film, so he may be able to explain better.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
78,712
427
126
tbqhwy.com
white balance is a color setting, you adjst it for different color tempatures, much like film, which is Daylight or Tungston balanced, the white balance is doing the same thing, and gives you all the inbetween settings which you would have to use filters for on film

the best metering for backlit shots is spot metering This was shot D70 on Spot, or center, the 3rd on is Matrix metering which works for 95% of everything you will shoot, it looks at the whole frame and takes an weighted average and determins the exposure that way
Digital has less latatude then film, so things do not exactly work the same way, fill flash works fine on the D70 with a speedlight, ive never tried it with the onboard flash tho it should in theroy work the same way

yes Tami i started on film and I still shoot it just as much as i shoot digital, i also shoot 4x5 still, i actually think im gonna take it out tomorow
 

montanafan

Diamond Member
Nov 7, 1999
3,551
2
71
ultravox, I can sympathize with you. I thought of myself as a pretty good photographer with film and loved my Canon AE-1, but when it developed crack in the seal I decided to go digital instead of buying a new film camera. There are a lot of things I like about digital, but there were many new things I had to learn and the camera does not work the same as a film camera when you're shooting manually.

I shoot a lot of sports inside and out, like right now it's a lot of night football and volleyball. When I first got the camera I took it to a basketball game and shot a bunch of what I thought would be good photos, but when I got home and looked at them they were all covered in a red haze. I didn't know anything about white balance either. A call to the camera shop helped me realize that I had to adjust the white balance for the yellow-reddish tint given off by the lighting in the gym. No problems after that. Now I've gotten the manual settings figured out well enough to adjust for it without even having to use white balance, I can just use the flash setting and still have them turn out fine.

Those photos were also almost all blurred. I had set the shutter on 1/60th like with a film camera and flash, but clearly that wasn't correct. I finally got used to the digital camera's higher sensitivity to distance, flash settings, etc. If you're going to use it to shoot action stuff in low lighting conditions you'll have to vary the settings quite a bit depending on the shot you want. Volleyball in the gym is usually good though at 1/80th, 4.0 to 5.0, and flash at one-half to one-fourth power depending on the distance. The best general setting for night football varies greatly depending where they are on the field, but with a 75-300mm lens a good general setting is 1/160th, at TV priority, flash at full power, and exposure compensation at + 1 and 1/3 to + 1 and 2/3rd for middle of the field shots and the same settings and no exposure compensation for closer to the sidelines. Though 1/80th with no exposure compensation up to +1 is better for very close to he sideline stuff.

I'm still getting used to the center-weighted and evaluative metering though. When your're trying to get a shot of something on the field or court it can make a big difference in what comes out in focus. I usually use center-weighted because other people on the field or court can get in the way and cause problems when you use evaluative, but it's a problem at times keeping the center point exactly on the action you want in focus, it can be really picky. Like Friday night I thought I had a perfect photo of an interception at a football game, but when I got home and looked at it the two guys involved were not in perfect focus. Though I had the center spot on one of the guys, enough of it was just below his arm to make the camera focus on the linemen in the far background where the ball was thrown from and that's what was in focus.

I was also having problems shooting running backs coming right at me and getting them in focus. After all, with the old Canon those were the easiest to get in focus as opposed to the play running by you. It took a while before I finally read somewhere that the automatic focus on most of the lenses had a hard time keeping focus on something coming right toward them. Once I found that out I figured out that all I have to do is keep the camera on them and hold the shutter halfway down longer to give it time to adjust and they come out fine now. Of course it gives me less time to get out of the way, but those are the risks you take to get a good picture. :)

Exposure compensation is fun to play around with too, though I find that it tends to soften some photos. Having the ability to edit your photos just the way you want them in Adobe Photoshop is a lot of fun too, though having all the choices of ways to crop them can drive you crazy sometimes figuring out exactly what looks best.

Just get out there and play around with the settings with a variety of stuff before you use it for those important photos and you'll be more comfortable with it after a while. Good luck!
 

konichiwa

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
15,077
2
0
Best way to figure out what settings you need, find a backlit composition and start snapping on different settings. Obviously you know all about bracketing but just speaking generally, write down or remember what you changed for each one then go back and check it out afterwords and see which one worked best.

Repeat :)
 

Quasmo

Diamond Member
Jul 7, 2004
9,630
1
76
I'm a film (video) major and for film we shoot a half stop lower than we should and with digital we shoot a half stop higher that we should. It works pretty dang well IMHO. Also make sure you shoot RAW format, the good thing about digital, is that once you;ve shot it you're only halfway done. Talk the photo into Photoshop and mess with the levels.
 

montanafan

Diamond Member
Nov 7, 1999
3,551
2
71
Just to add to what konichiwa said, if you have software that came with your camera like Canon's File Viewer Utility you can go in and look at the photos and see all the settings for the shots you liked best and then write those down and keep them in your camera bag to refer back to the next time you're shooting under similar conditions. Of course if you shoot under those same conditions a lot you'll just get familiar with them quickly.