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Getting a new car, leaning towards a Mini-Cooper S

OCNewbie

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I've had the same truck, a 93 Dodge Dakota, for over 10 years now. It's an auto, V8, fairly quick for a truck. I've always driven RWD vehicles, so was a little skeptical about the Mini's front drive setup. I've always loved being able to do fish-tails in dirt roads, or on pavement when I feel like it (though I'm 28 now, and I don't really do it very often these days).

Anyway, I definitely want a car, not a truck. I want something sporty, and something smaller, that is good on gas, and a nimble traffic car. One that can zip me in and out of traffic quickly, that handles well, but is quick enough to pass people if I want/need to.

The Mini Cooper S seems to be just about a perfect fit for this. Good on gas, very go-kart like in it's handling (a plus for me), and from what I hear a blast to drive. A new '06 is gonna run me right around the 25k mark before taxes, etc.

Other than a Mini, and other than an '06 MX-5/Miata (test drove one of those, didn't like it compared to the Mini, felt much slower, and was loud, not a fan of the ragtops), can anyone suggest a car that is medium to small in size, good on gas, good handling, fast, and not terribly expensive, and built well? I heard Mini's are basically BMW's, and that they're high-quality and built well, anybody know otherwise?

Any comments will be much appreciated. This will be the first new car I've ever owned, and I want to make sure I'm making the wisest decision for the long haul. I'll probably have this car a minimum of 5+ years.

**DOH, almost forgot, this will be my daily driven car, my only vehicle. I'm debating between the 6-speed manual & the 6-speed auto with the paddle-shifters. I've never owned a manually shifted car, but I know how to shift. Just wondering if the 6-speed auto in the Cooper S is a really slick unit, that won't really sacrifice performance. I think the manual will definitely increase the fun factor, so I'm probably leaning more towards those. I just hear of huge annoyance factors with manuals when in heavy, slow-moving traffic. Though I'm not often in that situation.

Oh, and I'm not interested in a soft-top convertible. I don't like the noise factor.
 

jpeyton

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For $25k, I would get the Pontiac Solstice or the Saturn Sky. If I'm going to buy a small, fun driving car, it might as well be a convertible.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
For $25k, I would get the Pontiac Solstice or the Saturn Sky. If I'm going to buy a small, fun driving car, it might as well be a convertible.

agreed
 

JulesMaximus

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Excellent choice.

Some here might say it's the most fun you can have with your clothes on. :)
 

Mermaidman

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Excellent choice.

Some here might say it's the most fun you can have with your clothes on. :)
So if driving naked in a Mini would be heaven?
 

MazerRackham

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[05 RSX-S owner] get a 06 RSX-S!!! [/05 RSX-S owner] :)

I was in the same boat last year. I picked the RSX-S and it's been awesome...
 

CombatChuk

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[05 MINI Cooper owner] MINI ME!!!!!!

Best resale value in it's class. According to NADA my MINI is worth $4000 more than I paid for it, thank gas prices and low production volume. The best handling front wheel drive car out there.
 

Chrono

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Originally posted by: MazerRackham
[05 RSX-S owner] get a 06 RSX-S!!! [/05 RSX-S owner] :)

I was in the same boat last year. I picked the RSX-S and it's been awesome...

LOL. i knew you would come in and mention your RSX-S. Time to mention mine as well. RSX-S is an awesome car... especially the 05-06 models. The 06 models are going to be the last year for the integra/rsx with Acura phasing it out for the TSX Coupe to replace it. Rumor has it there will be both a regulr coupe (200-hp) and a Type-S TSX Coupe (240-250hp). But back to the RSX-S. It's been a blast to drive for me for daily driving and for auto-x.
 

Taggart

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Another vote for RSX-S. I have an '02 :)

Do you guys follow the maintenance schedule fromm the manual? I change the oil every 5-10K miles, closer to 10k.
 

nboy22

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If you don't need a trunk, or to haul more than one passenger I'd say you could go for it.
 

intogamer

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I'd go for a RSX-S ^_^ but insurance is going to kill you

The cooper is a good choice if you want to be unique

Have you thought about the Scion TC?
 

OCNewbie

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I want go-kart like handling with good power =) Of the above mentioned alternative cars, are any of them close to the Mini in terms of build quality, handling, and power?

Also, doesn't BMW make Mini? Wouldn't that say a lot of good things about their quality?
 

TuffGuy

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Originally posted by: OCNewbie
I want go-kart like handling with good power =) Of the above mentioned alternative cars, are any of them close to the Mini in terms of build quality, handling, and power?

Also, doesn't BMW make Mini? Wouldn't that say a lot of good things about their quality?
German cars are some of the least reliable cars on the road.

consumer_reports_reliabilty_2004
 

randumb

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Originally posted by: OCNewbie
I want go-kart like handling with good power =) Of the above mentioned alternative cars, are any of them close to the Mini in terms of build quality, handling, and power?

Also, doesn't BMW make Mini? Wouldn't that say a lot of good things about their quality?

bmw reliability isn't great, at least compared to japanese manufacturers like toyota/scion - scion tc, honda/acura - rsx-s
 

MazerRackham

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Originally posted by: Chrono
Originally posted by: MazerRackham
[05 RSX-S owner] get a 06 RSX-S!!! [/05 RSX-S owner] :)

I was in the same boat last year. I picked the RSX-S and it's been awesome...

LOL. i knew you would come in and mention your RSX-S. Time to mention mine as well. RSX-S is an awesome car... especially the 05-06 models. The 06 models are going to be the last year for the integra/rsx with Acura phasing it out for the TSX Coupe to replace it. Rumor has it there will be both a regulr coupe (200-hp) and a Type-S TSX Coupe (240-250hp). But back to the RSX-S. It's been a blast to drive for me for daily driving and for auto-x.

Oh!! I didn't know that. That's awesome, because the resale on my car (and yours) will be even better in a few years! Just like with the last model Prelude. AWESOME!

:beer:
 

ai42

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Personally for me I would rather get a VW TDI Golf. Excellent fuel efficency and it has pretty good get up and go (unlike the Prius which I've driven).
 

Chrono

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to tell you the truth, my friend owns a mini cooper S and has had quite a few problems with it already. he's had to bring it into the mini dealer for servicing and they weren't just small problems as well. it's a fun car to drive though. it's actually quite roomy for being so small in size. i just don't like all the plastic interior.
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: OCNewbie
I want go-kart like handling with good power =) Of the above mentioned alternative cars, are any of them close to the Mini in terms of build quality, handling, and power?

Also, doesn't BMW make Mini? Wouldn't that say a lot of good things about their quality?

You could get a pristine low mileage supercharged MR2 for about $20,000 less than your budget... ;)
 

swtethan

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Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: OCNewbie
I want go-kart like handling with good power =) Of the above mentioned alternative cars, are any of them close to the Mini in terms of build quality, handling, and power?

Also, doesn't BMW make Mini? Wouldn't that say a lot of good things about their quality?

You could get a pristine low mileage supercharged MR2 for about $20,000 less than your budget... ;)


which would break down in 3 days
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: OCNewbie
I want go-kart like handling with good power =) Of the above mentioned alternative cars, are any of them close to the Mini in terms of build quality, handling, and power?

Also, doesn't BMW make Mini? Wouldn't that say a lot of good things about their quality?

You could get a pristine low mileage supercharged MR2 for about $20,000 less than your budget... ;)


which would break down in 3 days

Eh, no.
 

iamwiz82

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You could buy my 2005 MINI Cooper S :p

I can't imagine anyone buying an RSX-S, but i'm not a big fan of boring vehicles with very little soul. Buying something completely common and then adding a 3 foot wing and yellow stripes down the side to make it different than all the rest makes no sense to me.

Get the 6-speed, either way.

This is my second MINI and I have loved both, but I want to get rid of a car payment :(

EDIT: Which options are you looking towards?