Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: JeffSpicoli
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: JeffSpicoli
The experience will help. Unfortunately, major corporations conspired with the government in the late nineties to bring cheap foreign labor to the states to flood the IT market and drive salaries down (blame Clinton and his fvckng library). That, combined with the recession, have ruined IT as a career. It is now only a commodity. Companies do not hire IT professionals, they contract foreign workers for a period of time or send requirements overseas where they can get IT work done much cheaper. I'm sure you had high expectations when you started your college career in information systems, but your chances of making a worthwhile career out of it now have diminished.
I would suggest trying to get some experience as a project manager and getting PMP certified. The certification is a scam, but companies recognize it and will pay for certified PMs. This way you can lead IT projects, make a buck, be somewhat close to the technology, and not have to worry about learning new technologies every 6 months.
More Clinton haters. The world is changing, but you expect Clinton to stop it from doing so.
It's a global market, not just for products, but also talent.
You do realize that you can hire programmers in Russia for $300/month who will work 12 hrs a day?
If Clinton didn't bring the labor here, the jobs would move over there. At least when it's here you get an opportunity compete for it. If the job moves to Bangalore, are you going to go to India? I don't think so.
Just before Clinton pardoned a bunch of crooks, he signed off to approve 500,000 H1B visas at the urging of corporate special interest groups claiming there weren't enough qualified IT people in the US to fill all the jobs (which was BS, they just didn't want to pay market value or were to lazy to look). Combine that with a recession and now you have only foreigners willing to work for 3rd world country wages in the states able to hold down a low paying IT job. Highly qualified people like Geekish Thoughts are the victims of corporate politics. If the world market justifies sending jobs overseas, so be it, but the government should not be conspiring to put qualified americans out of work by bringing in foreigners to take their jobs. I have nothing against H1B people. I am friends with many. But they can come here on a visa, work for 5 years at 60% of acceptable wages and still go back to their homeland and retire. Geekish Thoughts may not be able to afford to live in the states and may end up in Bangalore after all.
Hey, I am not disagreeing with you that it sucks. I work for a tech company, and I am pretty much the only non H1B (or former H1B) worker in my group.
But I am not going to complain that I am underpaid or whatever. I make very good money for someone straight out of school. And qualified H1B workers most certainly don't make third world wages. They make high 5 digits and up if they are qualified engineers.
Unlike you, I would preffer that the jobs stay here, and foreigners come here to compete for them even if it brings down wages, over the jobs moving overseas and me having to go to Bombay and compete for those jobs there.
It's like this with every immigrant wave here. Everyone always complains that they are just cheap labor, but the US has competitive advantage because of the cheap immigrant labor and brain drain from other countries.
If you want to pick on immigrants, pick on those who come here to sit on welfare and breed, not those who come to work their butts off and reach for the American dream.
