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Getting a Fx-53 chip which hsf?

czech09

Diamond Member
I currently have a 3000+ Winnie running with a xp-90 my temps are ridiculously high = around 38-39 idle) but that might be due to either the HSF being faulty or some sensors on the Ultra-D mobo that may have gone bad. I just bought an Fx-53 chip off the forums yesterday and am wondering which hsf to stick with...I've always hated how the thermalright hsfs are pretty difficult to put on and remove compared to just stock ones. So I'm thinking about going to something else. There is the option of staying with the stock fx-53 hsf that I'll get but I have no clue how good that is? I've read up and supposedly these chips idle around the low 40s stock and under load get to about the mid 50s or so and that's considered normal. I was also thinking about the 7700 ALCU from zalman which I've heard some good things about. Then of course the idea of water cooling is still in my mind but since I've also ordered a 7800gtx, that's probably out of question considering the problems with the sensors or w/e on that card (Plus it might be too pricey overall anyways). So what do you think I should get?

Thanks.
 
My 3200+ idles at 36C on the stock cooler. The real question is whats you full load temp. Run something like rthdribl for 20 minutes. My 3200+ tops out at 42C.
 
Originally posted by: czech09
I currently have a 3000+ Winnie running with a xp-90 my temps are ridiculously high = around 38-39 idle) but that might be due to either the HSF being faulty or some sensors on the Ultra-D mobo that may have gone bad. I just bought an Fx-53 chip off the forums yesterday and am wondering which hsf to stick with...I've always hated how the thermalright hsfs are pretty difficult to put on and remove compared to just stock ones. So I'm thinking about going to something else. There is the option of staying with the stock fx-53 hsf that I'll get but I have no clue how good that is? I've read up and supposedly these chips idle around the low 40s stock and under load get to about the mid 50s or so and that's considered normal. I was also thinking about the 7700 ALCU from zalman which I've heard some good things about. Then of course the idea of water cooling is still in my mind but since I've also ordered a 7800gtx, that's probably out of question considering the problems with the sensors or w/e on that card (Plus it might be too pricey overall anyways). So what do you think I should get?

Thanks.
I don't find the XP-90 difficult to install, but the removal is sort of a pain-in-the-^ss. Speaking from satisfied experience, I say as long as the XP-90 fits on your mobo without interferring with your RAM and the 7800 GTX (which is doubtful) I say go for the XP-90 and a Panaflo fan. I have never used a 7700-Series HSF before but from what I've read they are excellent as well.

Now a few notes: I ran the "stock" HSF that came with my Retail FX-53 for a few months before going to a Thermaltake A1772. I can't remember exactly what my FX-53 ran at idle and load - I think around 40-42 idle and 63-67 load (207MHz FSBx12 Multiplier = 2,484MHz) but I do remember that with the Thermaltake A1772 the overall system temps dropped by about 10 degrees Celsius.

I thought that was pretty good, as there are only minor differences between the "stock" HSF and the A1772. The A1772 uses the same exact retension mechanism as the OEM (stock) HSF that shipped with the FX-53s' with the exception of (a) the A1772 uses an all-copper fan (the Retail FX-53 HS in aluminum) and the fan that comes on the A1772 has a higher top speed than the fan that comes in the factory FX-53 HSF combo. Thermaltake makes many of the OEM HSFs' that come with the Retail AMD CPUS. This is why the retension systems are the same on the chips sometimes.

Then I decided that I wanted better, more efficient cooling than what the A1772 provided in order to quiet things down a little. So I went with the XP-90 and Panaflo L1BX. I got an additional 10 degree Celsius temp reduction just as I had with my move from the OEM FX-53 HSF to the Thermaltake A1772. Again, the 10 degree Celsius decrease was across the board (at idle and load). Idle can be the PC doing nothing or running Word or surfing the internet. Load is Prime95 run for several hours to allow the ambient temp inside the PC case to simulate real-world temps.

BTW, at the time I was switching my HSFs' I was running only 1 (one) 36.7 GB U320 Cheetah in a Cooler Master Wave Master case. Then December of 2004 (merry Christams to me!) I bought my Lian Li V1000 case. And a few months ago I upgraded to four (4) 36.7GB U320 Cheetah's in RAID 0+1. I've only had my FX-57 for two weeks. Prior to that all other system specs were the same as my current sig (see bottom of my post). Under load my FX-53 got to the mid 60s' at 2,484MHz (207MHz FSBx12 Multiplier). My FX-57 rarely hits 59C at 2,898Mhz (207MHz FSBx14 Multiplier).



 
Originally posted by: Aries64
Originally posted by: czech09
I currently have a 3000+ Winnie running with a xp-90 my temps are ridiculously high = around 38-39 idle) but that might be due to either the HSF being faulty or some sensors on the Ultra-D mobo that may have gone bad. I just bought an Fx-53 chip off the forums yesterday and am wondering which hsf to stick with...I've always hated how the thermalright hsfs are pretty difficult to put on and remove compared to just stock ones. So I'm thinking about going to something else. There is the option of staying with the stock fx-53 hsf that I'll get but I have no clue how good that is? I've read up and supposedly these chips idle around the low 40s stock and under load get to about the mid 50s or so and that's considered normal. I was also thinking about the 7700 ALCU from zalman which I've heard some good things about. Then of course the idea of water cooling is still in my mind but since I've also ordered a 7800gtx, that's probably out of question considering the problems with the sensors or w/e on that card (Plus it might be too pricey overall anyways). So what do you think I should get?

Thanks.
I don't find the XP-90 difficult to install, but the removal is sort of a pain-in-the-^ss. Speaking from satisfied experience, I say as long as the XP-90 fits on your mobo without interferring with your RAM and the 7800 GTX (which is doubtful) I say go for the XP-90 and a Panaflo fan. I have never used a 7700-Series HSF before but from what I've read they are excellent as well.

Now a few notes: I ran the "stock" HSF that came with my Retail FX-53 for a few months before going to a Thermaltake A1772. I can't remember exactly what my FX-53 ran at idle and load - I think around 40-42 idle and 63-67 load (207MHz FSBx12 Multiplier = 2,484MHz) but I do remember that with the Thermaltake A1772 the overall system temps dropped by about 10 degrees Celsius.

I thought that was pretty good, as there are only minor differences between the "stock" HSF and the A1772. The A1772 uses the same exact retension mechanism as the OEM (stock) HSF that shipped with the FX-53s' with the exception of (a) the A1772 uses an all-copper fan (the Retail FX-53 HS in aluminum) and the fan that comes on the A1772 has a higher top speed than the fan that comes in the factory FX-53 HSF combo. Thermaltake makes many of the OEM HSFs' that come with the Retail AMD CPUS. This is why the retension systems are the same on the chips sometimes.

Then I decided that I wanted better, more efficient cooling than what the A1772 provided in order to quiet things down a little. So I went with the XP-90 and Panaflo L1BX. I got an additional 10 degree Celsius temp reduction just as I had with my move from the OEM FX-53 HSF to the Thermaltake A1772. Again, the 10 degree Celsius decrease was across the board (at idle and load). Idle can be the PC doing nothing or running Word or surfing the internet. Load is Prime95 run for several hours to allow the ambient temp inside the PC case to simulate real-world temps.

BTW, at the time I was switching my HSFs' I was running only 1 (one) 36.7 GB U320 Cheetah in a Cooler Master Wave Master case. Then December of 2004 (merry Christams to me!) I bought my Lian Li V1000 case. And a few months ago I upgraded to four (4) 36.7GB U320 Cheetah's in RAID 0+1. I've only had my FX-57 for two weeks. Prior to that all other system specs were the same as my current sig (see bottom of my post). Under load my FX-53 got to the mid 60s' at 2,484MHz (207MHz FSBx12 Multiplier). My FX-57 rarely hits 59C at 2,898Mhz (207MHz FSBx14 Multiplier).

Excellent advice thank you for taking the time to respond. 2,484 is as high as you got with your Fx-53? That would dissappoint me as I was hoping for 2.6 at the very least considering they're 2,400mhz stock.

Thanks I pmed you some addition questions, once again I really appreciate it.
 
use the xp-90 on the FX-53... it's one of the most capable coolers out there.

Why are people so concerned about temps anyways? I mean, your temps are LOW!!! I would not worry at all.

I have no clue what my CPU runs at.. I put the XP-90 in my PC with a Vantec stealth and it runs great.. the HSF is slightly warm to the touch (must be in the 40's topps) even under full load.

It's not like the FX-53 will even produce that much more heat over the 3000+.. people worry too much 😛
 
Originally posted by: CraigRT
use the xp-90 on the FX-53... it's one of the most capable coolers out there.

Why are people so concerned about temps anyways? I mean, your temps are LOW!!! I would not worry at all.

I have no clue what my CPU runs at.. I put the XP-90 in my PC with a Vantec stealth and it runs great.. the HSF is slightly warm to the touch (must be in the 40's topps) even under full load.

It's not like the FX-53 will even produce that much more heat over the 3000+.. people worry too much 😛
Why worry about temps? While I don't "worry" about my temps its always a good idea to monitor them. Why? Because its easier to head off a problem before it becomes one.

For example, if I notice that my CPU is running hotter than normal I will investigate why:

(a) Is the HSF properly seated?
(b) Is it time to clean the dust off the HS?
(c) Is it time to re-apply fresh thermal paste?
(d) Is my CPU fan or one of my system fans crapping-out? Gee, maybe I should order a replacement before it completely dies...
 
i have a 4000+ which is the fx53...I'm using a zalman 7700 all copper hsf and it works awesome. 29 in bios, 32 idle, never goes above around 42 under full load, and remember this is @ 2.7 ghz overclocked. btw awesome vid card aries64...but whats your video card?
 
Originally posted by: p3r2y
i have a 4000+ which is the fx53...I'm using a zalman 7700 all copper hsf and it works awesome. 29 in bios, 32 idle, never goes above around 42 under full load, and remember this is @ 2.7 ghz overclocked. btw awesome vid card aries64...but whats your video card?
p3r2y I don't understand what you are saying at the end of your post - "btw awesome vid card aries64...but whats your video card?". Why are you telling me I have an awesome vid card but then asking me what kind of videocard I have? WTF?

For the record, the HIS Excalibur X800 XT IceQ II PE is a reference-design (ATI-produced) X800 XT 256MB PE (Platinum Edition) card that comes with an Arctic cooling ATI 4 Silencer (VGA cooler) installed on it (stock). Other than a translucent blue fan blade and HIS graphic on the cooler, the cooler that comes on the HIS Excalibur X800 XT PE 256MB is the same as any other ATI 4 Silencer.

BTW, do yo have a 130 nm (ClawHammer core) 4000+ or a 90nm (San Diego core) 4000+?
 
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