Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
When she wanted to go to counselling to fix the marriage, you didn't want to. When she decided enough was enough, then you decided to give marriage a shot even if you didn't believe in them. I don't see how it could be anything but your fault, and i certainly don't feel pity for you. There's an old Chinese adage:
All the big problems in the world could have been solved when they were little problems.
True, not everybody has the gift to predict how everything will end up, but i'm sure this hasn't been a big surprise for you. You must have known at certain points that this was how it could end, yet you didn't take any steps until it was absolutely late. All this didn't happen overnight. I'm sure it's a culmination of many things over many months or years.
And despite what some people here believe, don't stay in the marriage just for the kids sake. Just because they have a mother and father in the same house doesn't mean they won't be affected by your constant bickering and arguing if you stay together 'just for the kids'. Just make sure the divorce isn't ugly and don't put the kids in the middle of it. Too many times it's not the actual divorce that traumatize the children, but the games the parents play against one another, and usually the kids are the center of these games.
Sorry Moralpanic, you're an a$$hole. What if the guy is in my former situation 8 years ago when the wife wanted to go to counseling because she was having an affair and she just wanted counseling to make her feel better? Huh? I don't think your wisdom covers all the rules. I also held back on counseling, only to find out a week later that it wouldn't have done any good (by her own admission) and the marriage was over months before I knew there were problems because SHE decided to break our vows. I was faithful, loving, and provided her with her every wish so don't give me that horseshit. You can't analyze every situation after reading a paragraph. There's a hell of a lot more going on behind the scenes that you and he probably don't even know about. So STFU, you're not making the guy feel any better d!ckhead. You've obviously never been through a divorce.
wah wah wah. So you think everybody should be coddle with gentle words? I don't. From what little he has said in his post, i've said my piece. If he wanted complete privacy, then he shouldn't have posted on this forum. I have no problem supporting people, but from his first post, to me, it didn't warrant it, and i didn't. I told him what i thought, that she obviously saw the problems earlier, and tried to get them in therapy. And i'm sure he saw the problems as well, but thought that if he ignored them, they would go away. Obviously they didn't.
As for your problems, they're your problems, i don't give a rats ass about them. And yes, i'm sure there are more going behind the scenes than what he's posted, but i'm going by what he's posted. As for me keeping quiet about it, then he shouldn't have made the post. Unless you've missed the point of where you are, we're on a PUBLIC FORUM. I didn't insult him, i just posted what i thought the situation was, and even posted what i think might be helpful information, to leave the kids out of this. If you're too sensitive for such things, then perhaps this forum isn't for you?