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controversial "speed-feeding" method in which grain is streamed through a pipe inserted down the throat of a duck or goose for weeks at a time toward the end of their lives
Originally posted by: Azraele
controversial "speed-feeding" method in which grain is streamed through a pipe inserted down the throat of a duck or goose for weeks at a time toward the end of their lives
That's not nice.
Good luck making foie gras without force feeding. Do you even know what foie gras is?Originally posted by: wyvrn
I like the bill. It prevents cruelty to animals. I say increase the fine to 10,000 and also jail time.
BTW, the bill is only banning companies that use the speed feeding approach. It is not banning Foie Gras. What does this have to do with your kitchen? Seems like it has more to do with the farms these birds are being raised on.
Gonzalez, who said he sells some 2,000 ducks raised for foie gras per week, acknowledged the practice of force-feeding but said the practice is humane. "Yes, we use a pipe to feed the ducks, but the anatomy of the duck is totally adaptable to this and it does not bother them at all," he said. In fact, he said, the swelling of the duck's liver to many times its normal size occurs similarly in nature, when the birds gorge themselves before migration.
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Good luck making foie gras without force feeding. Do you even know what foie gras is?Originally posted by: wyvrn
I like the bill. It prevents cruelty to animals. I say increase the fine to 10,000 and also jail time.
BTW, the bill is only banning companies that use the speed feeding approach. It is not banning Foie Gras. What does this have to do with your kitchen? Seems like it has more to do with the farms these birds are being raised on.
Gonzalez, who said he sells some 2,000 ducks raised for foie gras per week, acknowledged the practice of force-feeding but said the practice is humane. "Yes, we use a pipe to feed the ducks, but the anatomy of the duck is totally adaptable to this and it does not bother them at all," he said. In fact, he said, the swelling of the duck's liver to many times its normal size occurs similarly in nature, when the birds gorge themselves before migration.
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Good luck making foie gras without force feeding. Do you even know what foie gras is?Originally posted by: wyvrn
I like the bill. It prevents cruelty to animals. I say increase the fine to 10,000 and also jail time.
BTW, the bill is only banning companies that use the speed feeding approach. It is not banning Foie Gras. What does this have to do with your kitchen? Seems like it has more to do with the farms these birds are being raised on.
Gonzalez, who said he sells some 2,000 ducks raised for foie gras per week, acknowledged the practice of force-feeding but said the practice is humane. "Yes, we use a pipe to feed the ducks, but the anatomy of the duck is totally adaptable to this and it does not bother them at all," he said. In fact, he said, the swelling of the duck's liver to many times its normal size occurs similarly in nature, when the birds gorge themselves before migration.
A bit mean? They're food - destined to die. It's a farm, not a five star resort.Originally posted by: Amorphus
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Good luck making foie gras without force feeding. Do you even know what foie gras is?Originally posted by: wyvrn
I like the bill. It prevents cruelty to animals. I say increase the fine to 10,000 and also jail time.
BTW, the bill is only banning companies that use the speed feeding approach. It is not banning Foie Gras. What does this have to do with your kitchen? Seems like it has more to do with the farms these birds are being raised on.
Gonzalez, who said he sells some 2,000 ducks raised for foie gras per week, acknowledged the practice of force-feeding but said the practice is humane. "Yes, we use a pipe to feed the ducks, but the anatomy of the duck is totally adaptable to this and it does not bother them at all," he said. In fact, he said, the swelling of the duck's liver to many times its normal size occurs similarly in nature, when the birds gorge themselves before migration.
that doesn't mean much. if you feed them grain normally, then fine. but ramming a pipe down their throat to siphon grain in is a bit mean.
On the other hand, it does lead to very tasty birds...
Yeah, but i don't torture my food before I eat it. If the ducks do it naturally, then let them gorge on their own. Then you can kill them and enjoy your foie gras to your hearts content.A bit mean? They're food - destined to die. It's a farm, not a five star resort.
never been to a slaughterhouse, eh? These ducks have it easy compared to veal, chickens, turkeys, etc, etc.Originally posted by: Spoooon
Yeah, but i don't torture my food before I eat it. If the ducks do it naturally, then let them gorge on their own. Then you can kill them and enjoy your foie gras to your hearts content.A bit mean? They're food - destined to die. It's a farm, not a five star resort.
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
never been to a slaughterhouse, eh? These ducks have it easy compared to veal, chickens, turkeys, etc, etc.Originally posted by: Spoooon
Yeah, but i don't torture my food before I eat it. If the ducks do it naturally, then let them gorge on their own. Then you can kill them and enjoy your foie gras to your hearts content.A bit mean? They're food - destined to die. It's a farm, not a five star resort.
HEY LETS BAN MEAT
Originally posted by: SampSon
I say ban any food that its source casts a shadow!
Originally posted by: Murphyrulez
Originally posted by: SampSon
I say ban any food that its source casts a shadow!
WTF would you eat then?
Air?
Moron.
Roots.Originally posted by: Murphyrulez
Originally posted by: SampSon
I say ban any food that its source casts a shadow!
WTF would you eat then?
Air?
Moron.
This bill forbids the sale of any foie gras made using force feeding, including the European stuff.Originally posted by: basilisk420
I call shinnannigans! These folks don't give a crap about the ducks.
There's a major tariff on foie gras imported to Europe...to the tune of 100% - a retaliatory measure for European buying bananas from sources other than US controlled companies. If they shut down the only US producer while there's still a market, the gov't lines their pockets with import taxes. The lawmakers are just riding the coat tails of the treehuggers in CA to mask the motive by saying their doing it for animal rights. Whatever.
Burton's bill seeks to block the sale of foie gras produced by the controversial "speed-feeding" method in which grain is streamed through a pipe inserted down the throat of a duck or goose for weeks at a time toward the end of their lives.
In this case, the minor cruelty is more than well justified.Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Burton's bill seeks to block the sale of foie gras produced by the controversial "speed-feeding" method in which grain is streamed through a pipe inserted down the throat of a duck or goose for weeks at a time toward the end of their lives.
That's extremely cruel. If you don't think so, something is wrong with you.
The birds are not hurt in *any* way when they are being fed like this, at least not on a decent farm.How it's done
A visit to an artisanal foie gras farm in Perigord, where I witnessed the whole process, convinced me that the ducks undergoing gavage were not being tortured. A flock of lively, sleek, snowy white ducks pecked in a bright green pasture. At feeding time, a small group was herded into an open-air pen and the madame of the farm, a rather elegant blond with perfect make-up, manicured hands and tall white boots, sat on a stool in the middle of the pen. The ducks knew her and did not run away. She gently stroked the head of the nearest duck and while holding its body between her knees, lifted its head and inserted a funnel down the neck. A measure of grain quickly slipped down the funnel -- it took about two seconds -- and then she whisked it out. She stroked the neck of the duck and held its head in her hands. The duck, far from struggling, accepted her caresses and then waddled off.
Food writer Ed Behr devoted the Fall 1998 issue of his award-winning newsletter, The Art of Eating, solely to the production and preparation of foie gras. He observed that the birds became accustomed to their feeders and do not shy away. The whole process of fattening ducks takes advantage of the natural ability of migrating waterfowl to store excess fat in their livers when they gorge themselves for long flights.
Michael Ginor, co-founder and owner of Hudson Valley Foie Gras, comments in his book "Foie Gras ... A Passion" (Wiley, 1998) that ducks and geese don't like people and act aggressively around them. But at feeding time, they willingly come to the feeders. Force feeding, he says, is neither painful nor distressing to the ducks, and fattening ducks and geese by hand has been going on for 5,000 years.
Furthermore, no part of the foie gras-producing bird is wasted. Not just the livers of these ducks are valued but, the meaty breasts, the legs, thighs, giblets and gizzards which go into confit, and the precious fat are all prized and consumed.
Originally posted by: AmericasTeam
Animals have no rights, thats what makes them animals.
Animal rights activists are almost as bad as eco-nuts (enviromentalists).:evil: