Get rid of this guy.

Killrose

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Crusader< this guy seems to be an AEG shill who showed up today to FUD the video card forums, slamming evryone in the AEG thread. He needs to be eliminated as part of the cleaning that needs to go on here,


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If you can show proof, then action will be taken.

Otherwise, you will get a week off for accusing/calling out another member.

Tick, tick .....

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imported_Crusader

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How do you know I'm a "shill"??
No one is being "slammed"..


Cant I disagree with you??

What is going on around here?
This is way out of control.

I should note this..
The next person to start a thread in FI about the AEG issue will be banned from the forums until it's resolution. We are working on the situation.

If AT contacts AEG, they wont find me on their records.. I'm not one.

This is silly.. I'm not AEG! I do feel like I'm being hunted.. and its because I see things another way!?
 

KarenMarie

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killrose... normally when someone is gonna make an accusation against another member, they do so thru PM. With links and/or quotes.

:)
 

Killrose

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I've been around these forums for quite sometime. I have seen quite afew members come and go. When someone new comes along ang starts jumping all over other established members, in my experiance they will always just keep on and it will just get worse as time goes on.

Maybe you are not an AEG "focus group member", but you have apeared on these forums for one reason only it seems, and that is to slam anyone against AEG practices.
 

imported_Crusader

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Originally posted by: Killrose
I've been around these forums for quite sometime. I have seen quite afew members come and go. When someone new comes along ang starts jumping all over other established members, in my experiance they will always just keep on and it will just get worse as time goes on.

Maybe you are not an AEG "focus group member", but you have apeared on these forums for one reason only it seems, and that is to slam anyone against AEG practices.

I am not a focus group member, and dont you think from what I've been saying that I would have no fear admitting this if I was? :confused:

I did join for one reason, but I dont see how that makes me a useless contributor simply because of that.. most everyone joins for a single reason at one point or another.

But I think once the mods see what I've posted, its not really "pro-AEG".. and even if it was.. is that wrong?
I think we can all disagree. I feel like I'm being discriminated against because I'm new, and I dont go along with the majority here. I guess I dont feel like that is really just.

Rollo needs punished, but can anyone really deny this AEG-stuff has gotten out of control?

All I did was present a different way of fixing things without all of this insane finger-pointing (moderation.. the stopping of offtopic posting in Video).

I think closing that thread, and making people to take it to OffTopic would be a good start? Keep video in video..

anyway if people dont get it or agree then thats fine.. but I think it will make sense to Anand or a mod or SOMEONE out there.
 

Greenman

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This is getting out of hand. Crusader may indeed be working for AEG, but since we don't know that, asking for him to be banned is out of line. He can support anyone he feels like supporting, and have any opinion he wants, we are NOT the thought police, were computer geeks.
 

Killrose

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I know whats going on here, its pretty obvious to me and others. But if the mods want to let it ride.
 

fierydemise

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The suspicious thing with Crusader is that he just showed up today yet possesses a very good knowledge of AT affairs regarding Rollo and the rest of video forum, the history of Ackmed's alts on other forums and the Rollo's history on other forums. Either he has a compulsive obsession with Ackmed, Rollo and AT or he's an alt, the later seems far more likely.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Greenman
This is getting out of hand. Crusader may indeed be working for AEG, but since we don't know that, asking for him to be banned is out of line. He can support anyone he feels like supporting, and have any opinion he wants, we are NOT the thought police, were computer geeks.

from the BIG thread in Video:
Originally posted by: Crusader
Long time lurker (since 2000), first time poster. This issue is ridiculous.

it is normal to feel suspicious when someone introduces himself with the above.

A Lurker for SIX years and just "happened" to post today as Rollo's Crusader?
:Q

since 2000 - according to his words - and he only registered TODAY? after carefully following our threads in Video for YEARS withOUT commenting - until NOW?

amazing 'timing' and self control ;)
:shocked:


i won't make a direct accusatiion . . . perhaps a Mod may want to verify IPs to be extra fair to Killrose [who, imo was 'rash']. . .

this poster may be telling the truth but he post a LOT just like one of Rollo's long-time friends and current defenders . . . 'pal'. ;)

Crusader is clearly very familar with our forums . . . clearly 'suspicion' is aroused in normal people.

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At present there is no correlation of IPs between Crusader and Rollo.

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SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: apoppin

At present there is no correlation of IPs between Crusader and Rollo.

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Another good Apoppin theory bites the dust. :(

He was right about AEG a long time ago. I would say that he has a far better track record than *YOU* do.

Apoppin is a long-time well-respected member, hence the "elite" status.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: apoppin

At present there is no correlation of IPs between Crusader and Rollo.

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Another good Apoppin theory bites the dust. :(

HOLD ON . . . NOT 'my' theory!
i did NOT post this thread and i made NO correlation between Rollo and Crusader. in fact, i stated elsewhere it would be highly UNlikely.

i am keeping my thoughts to myself and don't make public accusations unless i am reasonably sure.

what i DID point out that it is very unlikely that ANYONE would lurk for 6 years and actively read topics without registering - until today . . . just to defend Rollo. ;)
 

NYHoustonman

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I like how people are banned at the mere mention that somebody is an AEG member... but to actually be one? That's fine >.>

(That is, unless I'm missing something here)
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
I like how people are banned at the mere mention that somebody is an AEG member... but to actually be one? That's fine >.>

(That is, unless I'm missing something here)

No, you've got things pretty straight. :)

They're saying to "please be patient".
 

Witchfire

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As I said before... 'Crusader' indeed.

And as far as IP's go, anyone with half a notion can set up a 90 day free trial on <insert dial-up ISP here> and have instantly changing IP addresses, among other creative ways of getting around that trap. Not a great permanent way to create a falsy identity, but a quick & dirty temporary one.

Just food for thought.
 

L00PY

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Originally posted by: apoppin
what i DID point out that it is very unlikely that ANYONE would lurk for 6 years and actively read topics without registering - until today . . . just to defend Rollo. ;)
Nah, Crusader isn't trying to defend Rollo -- he's trying to defend AEG. And that's hardly a bannable offense. Even if he registered using an AEG e-mail address or if his IP traces back to the same geographic area as AEG, I don't see anything wrong with an AEG employee joining in the fray.

And I hate to say it, but I do agree with the mod's position of calling for a ban without proof ought to be worthy of a short vacation. Even if Killrose is right. asking to "get rid of this guy" based on a gut feeling shouldn't be done on a public forum. Of course, I don't think there's anything wrong with people pointing out the inconsistancies of Crusader's posting and coming to the conclusion that he's not who he claims either. Just my worthless $0.02.
 

imported_Crusader

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I guess I dont see why all the interest in me.

Because I see things differently?
I wanted to present a different point of view here. Not start a holy war (contrary to what my name might suggest).

And my name is from Crusader: No Remorse. :frown:
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Crusader
I wanted to present a different point of view here. Not start a holy war (contrary to what my name might suggest).

If you look back at history, all of the crusades failed.

You may become a part of that fabled history in the not-too-distant future. :)

You do have the right to your opinion, so long as you're not being paid to post it, IMO.

Personally, I think that AT should have a policy that states that all AEG/marketing agents must be up front about it and pay a monthly/yearly fee to AT. That money should go towards some serious moderation of the forum, which would then encourage some serious industry insiders to post here. If they are caught as an "undercover" AEG agent, they should have to pay a huge fine to AT.

I don't see why an end user agreement can't enforce this.
 

imported_Crusader

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Crusader
I wanted to present a different point of view here. Not start a holy war (contrary to what my name might suggest).

If you look back at history, all of the crusades failed.

You may become a part of that fabled history in the not-too-distant future. :)

You do have the right to your opinion, so long as you're not being paid to post it, IMO.

Personally, I think that AT should have a policy that states that all AEG/marketing agents must be up front about it and pay a monthly/yearly fee to AT. That money should go towards some serious moderation of the forum, which would then encourage some serious industry insiders to post here. If they are caught as an "undercover" AEG agent, they should have to pay a huge fine to AT.

I don't see why an end user agreement can't enforce this.

First, your history is incorrect not all the crusades failed. But this isnt a crusade, I just wanted to raise awareness on a 3rd point of view.

Here is my exit post in the AEG thread. This should appease many, as some appear to want to impose their point of view on anyone and everyone who dares to disagree with them.

I think this is way, way out of control. I'm withdrawing from this discussion until things calm down.
Thats my responsibility as a poster. This is absolutely ridiculous.

I will still make points when appropriate on this matter, but what needed to be added to the conversation prior to my coming has been done.

Anyone who wants to help the situation should refrain, but I somehow do not see the anti-Rollo crew doing so.. I think some see it as a "either him or me" situation, this is their last great shot at getting rid of Rollo.

And yes I have intimate knowledge of this forum, I've been reading ALL the hardware sites and ALL the forums for many years.. many years longer than a lot of you. :frown:
Its not evidence of any conspiracy.

And why did not everyone jump all over the last guy who entered the AEG thread recently, because he was anti-Rollo?
That speaks for a lot.

I come in peace.
If you guys want to burn down the house (and probably yourselves too), go at it.

I'm not going to take the brunt of your anger in this witch hunt.
Once Video is kept in Video.. most of this problem will be solved once and for all.
That means starting with stopping the anti-Rollo/anti-marketing threads.

And no, I have NO affiliation with ANYONE. I would admit it as I dont think there is anything wrong with AEG, Nvidia, ATI, Rollo, Sickbeast, Kyle Bennett, Anand, DaveB, Dr. Thomas Pabst, Santa Klaus, or anyone else who gives or recieves free hardware.

Lets chill out for a while, OK?

Good luck finding a way to get all the marketing agents to identify themselves, now or in the future. If you can figure that one out, let me know. Otherwise, I had some pretty new and different ways of approaching the situation.
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Crusader
I come in peace.
If you guys want to burn down the house (and probably yourselves too), go at it.

I'm not going to take the brunt of your anger in this witch hunt.
Once Video is kept in Video.. most of this problem will be solved once and for all.
That means starting with stopping the anti-Rollo/anti-marketing threads.

This *WILL* happen. The mods need to have their discussion, then hopefully peace and order will be restored, and they will ban people who post AEG threads.

And no, I have NO affiliation with ANYONE. I would admit it as I dont think there is anything wrong with AEG, Nvidia, ATI, Rollo, Sickbeast, Kyle Bennett, Anand, DaveB, Dr. Thomas Pabst, Santa Klaus, or anyone else who gives or recieves free hardware.

Lets chill out for a while, OK?

Good luck finding a way to get all the marketing agents to identify themselves, now or in the future. If you can figure that one out, let me know. Otherwise, I had some pretty new and different ways of approaching the situation.

I appreciate that.

I think people were hard on you because of the lack of plausability regarding the way you made your first post.

What they fail to realize is that someone called for Rollo's ban on their first post, only to be promptly banned themselves.

I look forward to posting with you, ON TOPIC, at some point in a relatively calm forum.

Be gone, and may the force be with you! :D