GET READY for Obamas war in Syria.

[K1052]

If Syrian gas shells start landing on Turkish soil (by accident or intent) Turkey will most certainly invoke Article 5.

I think the interest of not letting the Syrian civil war evolve into a wider regional conflict is the main source of US warnings to Syria about chemical weapons.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Maybe your too young to remember the Iraq war. When bush started the drumbeat he got the media,congress getting the masses greased up and ready so he can declare war. By the time the Propaganda was complete everyone was frothing at the mouth like a hungry dog waiting for Bush to send in the troops.

Go and read up on history.

It's the old WMD ploy....worked once, may work again.

 

[Hugo Drax]

It's the old WMD ploy....worked once, may work again.

It looks like we are gonna stay in a state of Permawars. Obama won't flip the switch till after January. For now the Drumbeat to war will get louder and louder, get the public all ready for it.

 

[Phokus]

Maybe your too young to remember the Iraq war. When bush started the drumbeat he got the media,congress getting the masses greased up and ready so he can declare war. By the time the Propaganda was complete everyone was frothing at the mouth like a hungry dog waiting for Bush to send in the troops.

Go and read up on history.

I don't see Obama doing that. Stop making shit up. And no, an 'unnamed official' at the pentagon warning Syria about their weapons isn't proof of anything.

We would have invaded Iran by now if what you said is true.

Mods need to close this thread for deliberate inaccuracy.

edit: also Obama is warning on the USE of the weapons. Bush invaded Iraq for just 'having' them (without having actual proof).

 

[Jaskalas]

I agree with Phokus.

There is no indication of Obama leading a charge into Syria.

 

[Juror No. 8]

Obama campaigned in 2008 on the notion that he was going to be the anti-Bush. He was going to do things differently. He was going to do the opposite of what Bush did during his eight years. He was going to end the wars and bring the troops home. He was going to engage the world diplomatically and peacefully.

LOL. How many of you here bought that pile of horse manure? Raise your hands.

 

[xj0hnx]

Obama campaigned in 2008 on the notion that he was going to be the anti-Bush. He was going to do things differently. He was going to do the opposite of what Bush did during his eight years. He was going to end the wars and bring the troops home. He was going to engage the world diplomatically and peacefully.

LOL. How many of you here bought that pile of horse manure? Raise your hands.

"We're not going to make medical marijuana a priority ...syke!!!"

Anyone that believes Obama is going to keep any of the bullshit promises he made, especially after his record breaking transparency in his first administration, they are as naive as the day is long.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Obama campaigned in 2008 on the notion that he was going to be the anti-Bush. He was going to do things differently. He was going to do the opposite of what Bush did during his eight years. He was going to end the wars and bring the troops home. He was going to engage the world diplomatically and peacefully.

LOL. How many of you here bought that pile of horse manure? Raise your hands.

4 MORE YEARS! 4 MORE YEARS!

Oh boy oh boy, get'cho popcone reday

 

[werepossum]

Obama is NOT going to declare war on Syria, he is merely warning them against using WMD. On the other hand, if Syria attacks Turkey (and I can't imagine why they would be that stupid) then we have treaty obligations no matter who is President.

Iraq was completely different as we were already technically still at war with Iraq (as we are with North Korea.) We cannot get drawn into Syria as we did in Iraq.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Somehow it is our responsibility to stop the Syrian government from using Gas on its own people.

Looks like the Military Industrial Complex needs more money.

Bush had his Iraq war now Obama gets his own war.

Notice the carefully placed "Leaks" by officials who are not supposed to comment or leak SECRET level information to the media.

Now the Media is preparing the sheep (American taxpayers) for slaughter by reporting on these leaks on the IMMINENT danger it poses.

The drumbeat gets louder and repetitive reporting and leaks to keep the masses in fear.

Expect more talk by the US and allies, expect a big WAR and another 100K+ soldiers in another country fighting an expensive war so we can enrich private industry interests at taxpayer expense and the lives of our soldiers.

wow another nut case from these forums................

 

[soulcougher73]

Faux rage backfire lol

 

[yllus]

Has Turkey actually ever been a productive member of NATO? Are they even a full member? I understand their geopolitical importance, but this is hardly a case of Britain asking for a quid pro quo.

 

[Fern]

Has Turkey actually ever been a productive member of NATO? Are they even a full member? I understand their geopolitical importance, but this is hardly a case of Britain asking for a quid pro quo.

I believe the question of being a "productive member" is moot as regards a treaty obligation.

Turkey has been in NATO for a long time, since 1952, and I believe they are a regular or full member.

Fern

 

[marincounty]

Obama campaigned in 2008 on the notion that he was going to be the anti-Bush. He was going to do things differently. He was going to do the opposite of what Bush did during his eight years. He was going to end the wars and bring the troops home. He was going to engage the world diplomatically and peacefully.

LOL. How many of you here bought that pile of horse manure? Raise your hands.

Obama did end the Iraq war, and troops are coming home from Afghanistan. He is engaging the world diplomatically. So exactly what is your problem?

 

[Doppel]

Syria won't attack Turkey, the entire conversation over that is hilarious. It can't even keep itself in power at this rate, it has no reason to attack turkey.

If Assad starts gassing his people I have no problem at all with the US pummeling him into submission with air power. Doubt it will happen, though. Assad is apparently on the way out and after what he's done his chances of getting away with his pieces intact at this point are not high.

 

[Fern]

Obama did end the Iraq war, and troops are coming home from Afghanistan. He is engaging the world diplomatically. So exactly what is your problem?

No, he did not.

Bush did. Even then it wasn't up to him, the UN refused to extend the mandate for our presence. The UN said that Iraq must approve it, and they did not.

Fern

 

[blackangst1]

Obama did end the Iraq war, and troops are coming home from Afghanistan. He is engaging the world diplomatically. So exactly what is your problem?

Well, not exactly. Obama honored the pullout schedule Bush put into place. Afghanistan is all Obama.

Anyway.

edit: oops Fern beat me by 3 minutes

 

[Juror No. 8]

Obama did end the Iraq war, and troops are coming home from Afghanistan. He is engaging the world diplomatically. So exactly what is your problem?

Not really. We're still occupying Iraq with private military contractors and still have thousands of troops in Afghanistan. As for engaging the world diplomatically, tell that to the Libyans, who are still cleaning up the wreckage caused by the bombs our planes dropped.

Obama is a chip off the old Bush block, eh? Four terms of George W. Bush foreign policy FTW!

 

[Pr0d1gy]

OMFG that crazy negro is gunna git us all kilt!!!!

When will this nonsense end?

 

[rockyct]

Obama campaigned in 2008 on the notion that he was going to be the anti-Bush. He was going to do things differently. He was going to do the opposite of what Bush did during his eight years. He was going to end the wars and bring the troops home. He was going to engage the world diplomatically and peacefully.

LOL. How many of you here bought that pile of horse manure? Raise your hands.

Obama never really ran as a pure anti-war candidate. The very fact he advocated for an Afghanistan surge while running (and followed through) showed that. He is in fact ending the wars and bringing the troops home. It's not as fast as many would like, but he is doing it. People who believed he was going to be completely anti-war were mistaken before he even got a single delegate. The Republicans still can't decide between the Neocons' world police force and the Tea Party's isolationism. Obama's pretty moderate in his use of the military but he's absolutely less likely to use the military over McCain or Romney.

Obama's drawing a line in the sand for Syria. We're not trumping up shaky intel and declaring Syria a threat to the region. He's doing this not because he wants to invade Syria, but because he doesn't want to make the country even more of a humanitarian crisis that will require us to intervene. It's a way to hopefully make Syrian think twice against using chemical weapons.

As for Libya, Obama got UN support and actually got France and Britain to do most of the military action. The Libyan people are actually very happy we got involved and view the US in a very positive way. I'm not sure how you're thinking that Libyan wishes we never got involved or that somehow we made it worse for them.

If you only define Presidents as isolationists or hawks, then yeah, Obama and Bush are both hawks, as well as Romney, McCain, SoS Clinton, Pres. Clinton, HW Bush, etc. To lump them together completely ignores the differences between their beliefs in world policy.

 

[trenchfoot]

Has Turkey actually ever been a productive member of NATO? Are they even a full member? I understand their geopolitical importance, but this is hardly a case of Britain asking for a quid pro quo.

During Desert Shield/Storm I was stationed at airbases in Turkey and Italy among others in support of those campaigns. Turkey allows us easy access to adjacent regions of interest and are willing partners in this regard, unlike Pakistan.

 

[FerrelGeek]

And the libertrols were all wetting themselves with anger and fear the Romney would take us to war with Syria. Who knows if anything will come over this, but if Obama gets it on with Syria, the media and the libs will be right there with him. Any dissent will be 'unpatriotic'.

Somehow it is our responsibility to stop the Syrian government from using Gas on its own people.

Looks like the Military Industrial Complex needs more money.

Bush had his Iraq war now Obama gets his own war.

Notice the carefully placed "Leaks" by officials who are not supposed to comment or leak SECRET level information to the media.

Now the Media is preparing the sheep (American taxpayers) for slaughter by reporting on these leaks on the IMMINENT danger it poses.

The drumbeat gets louder and repetitive reporting and leaks to keep the masses in fear.

Expect more talk by the US and allies, expect a big WAR and another 100K+ soldiers in another country fighting an expensive war so we can enrich private industry interests at taxpayer expense and the lives of our soldiers.

This and 22 more posts merged into the original thread - DrPizza

 

[DaveSimmons]

That's why he's going to take all yer guns! He's gonna use them guns to invade Sierra!


Or not.

At most, if Syria starts using their chemical weapons against their own citizens, then they might be targeted with cruise missiles, drones or bombs.

 

[werepossum]

Has Turkey actually ever been a productive member of NATO? Are they even a full member? I understand their geopolitical importance, but this is hardly a case of Britain asking for a quid pro quo.

Turkey has been at least as productive a NATO member as France and we bombed Libya for them.

 

[First]

Thankfully Obama isn't nearly irresponsible enough to get us into a new war.