Georgia police chief says accidentally shot, critically hurt wife

[CZroe]

By shooting it? Gonna get through a lot of alarm clocks like that... or wives.

Playing dumb? You can't be serious.

Some people without kids will chose to keep their gun on their night stand which is also where they might flop around for the alarm clock's snooze button while they are still half asleep. It allows for fast access if an intruder bursts into the bedroom.

Need another scenario? He forgot to take his belt holster off before undoing his pants. It fell to the floor and discharged.

Another? He was short and trying to hide it away from the kids on the top shelf when he lost his balance or it slipped and started to fall. He caught it and accidentally discharged it.

Another? He just came home and was taking off his gear in the bedroom when the dog realized he was there and excitedly jumped on him when he wasn't expecting it. Unfortunately, that was also as he took the gun from the holster to put it away.

Another? After a long night shift he was setting his things down on the bed when his wife was disturbed enough to toss a cover over it. He finished putting things away but did not realize in his groggy and tired state that the gun was still there. He climbs into bed and soon felt something strange, possibly even after starting to fall asleep. When it disturbed his comfort enough annoy him, he felt to see what it was and accidentally discharged it.

I could go on.

 

[Dari]

Playing dumb? You can't be serious.

Some people without kids will chose to keep their gun on their night stand which is also where they might flop around for the alarm clock's snooze button while they are still half asleep. It allows for fast access if an intruder bursts into the bedroom.

Need another scenario? He forgot to take his belt holster off before undoing his pants. It fell to the floor and discharged.

Another? He was short and trying to hide it away from the kids on the top shelf when he lost his balance or it slipped and started to fall. He caught it and accidentally discharged it.

Another? He just came home and was taking off his gear in the bedroom when the dog realized he was there and excitedly jumped on him when he wasn't expecting it. Unfortunately, that was also as he took the gun from the holster to put it away.

Another? After a long night shift he was setting his things down on the bed when his wife was disturbed enough to toss a cover over it. He finished putting things away but did not realize in his groggy and tired state that the gun was still there. He climes into bed and soon felt something strange, possibly even after starting to fall asleep. When it disturbed his comfort enough annoy him, he felt to see what it was and accidentally discharged it.

I could go on.

If you're the Chief of Police and you need your service weapon on the nightstand for unwanted visitors, it's probably better if you just move...

 

[CZroe]

If you're the Chief of Police and you need your service weapon on the nightstand for unwanted visitors, it's probably better if you just move...

Peachtree City is a bunch of rich aristocrats and Delta pilots who ride golf carts to the mall and grocery store. Most anywhere else would be crappy by comparison. Stay out of Malibu, Lebowski.

 

[Moonbeam]

A police officer who uses a Glock every day for years should (and IMO probably did) know exactly wtf he was doing with that gun.



I am reminded of this case, where a cop managed to kill 4 wives consecutively before getting caught. Cops can get away with murder easier than almost anybody else, so this should be interesting. He picked a bad time to murder his wife with the current scrutiny police are under.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Peterson



EDIT: This is the kind of thing cops deal with when they commit crimes, this is how they get special treatment:



I'm sure the inquest into this death will go something like every other "investigation" into an LEO, which is to say no investigation will take place and they will ask the cops friends if he did it, and they will reply "No, of course he didn't, he's a good man"

We must have some kind of fast extrapolation gift in common. I know as much about you as you know about that cop and I can already tell you're dangerously insane.

 

[TreVader]

We must have some kind of fast extrapolation gift in common. I know as much about you as you know about that cop and I can already tell you're dangerously insane.

Insane? I don't have a ton of confidence in your analysis. Care to explain?

 

[Moonbeam]

Insane? I don't have a ton of confidence in your analysis. Care to explain?

First I have to know why you have no confidence in my analysis? I'm as convinced as I am that Southerners are racial bigots that I was correct.

 

[TreVader]

First I have to know why you have no confidence in my analysis? I'm as convinced as I am that Southerners are racial bigots that I was correct.

Because you have yet to demonstrate any kind of insight into my posts personally that I would deem of value.

An example would be here where you levy accusations that I extrapolate and/or am insane. Your grammar makes it difficult to understand your point. Do you obfuscate your posts like this on purpose?

Also where are you from? I would venture not the US. Your grammar and sentence structure is quite odd. The reason I ask about where you are from, is that "sanity" can only properly be judged by a person with the same culture as the person they are analyzing. Things that people do in Africa seem insane to US, but they are not mentally ill. If you are a different culture, you cannot judge my sanity based on what I type.

 

[Moonbeam]

TreVader: Because you have yet to demonstrate any kind of insight into my posts personally that I would deem of value.

M: But that may only be a function of the fact that you have been unable to extract the insights that are there waiting for you to see such as this one.

TV: An example would be here where you levy accusations that I extrapolate and/or am insane. Your grammar makes it difficult to understand your point. Do you obfuscate your posts like this on purpose?

M: extrapolation:

1. an act or instance of inferring an unknown from something that is known.

2. Statistics, Mathematics. the act or process of estimating the value of a variable or function outside the tabulated or observed range.

You were able, in short, to rapidly adduce from a tiny data set, fantastically conceived generalities so far outside the observable range as to be, well, quite amazing, dangerously so, I might add. And you do it with such naïve conviction as to suggest you may be insane.

TV: Also where are you from? I would venture not the US. Your grammar and sentence structure is quite odd. The reason I ask about where you are from, is that "sanity" can only properly be judged by a person with the same culture as the person they are analyzing. Things that people do in Africa seem insane to US, but they are not mentally ill. If you are a different culture, you cannot judge my sanity based on what I type.

M: You know the most amazing things and more astonishingly, you seem to believe them. However did you get that way? I have nightmarish visions that were I like you I might enter a room and trip, rolling on the top of my head, there with hands and feet spinning in the air, never to walk again. Of course, if I were in such a position, I would very much see the world as you do.

 

[WelshBloke]

Some people without kids will chose to keep their gun on their night stand which is also where they might flop around for the alarm clock's snooze button while they are still half asleep. It allows for fast access if an intruder bursts into the bedroom.

That's just stupid. You might accidentally shoot someone.

 

[CZroe]

That's just stupid. You might accidentally shoot someone.

"Accidentally" is right.

Some spies keep them under their pillows.

Some spies keep their alarm clock under their pillow.

http://youtu.be/9wN3kPahyCY

Hell, the pillow itself can be pretty dangerous.

http://youtu.be/QsjZqQTNFAs

 

[NesuD]

At the very least it was an accidental discharge. That however does not abrogate his responsibility for shooting her. Where I am at civilians must go through training on safe handling of handgun as part of the requirements for a Concealed Pistol License. LEOs have even stricter requirements that they must requalify on every year. Basic safe handling requires the awareness of the state of the weapon (meaning hot or cold state, loaded or unloaded chamber) and safe orientation. This means when in hot state or unknown state the weapons is always pointed in a safe direction which is usually down. Anytime an accidental shooting occurs you can be certain that one or all of these practices were not followed. As a LEO he should adhere to these safety practices religiously. If this is a failure of him to follow these practices then at the very least it would be a negligent homicide. Assuming his wife dies as a result of her wounds. As has been pointed out no facts have been made available at this time. Best to wait for the investigation.

 

[TreVader]

TreVader: Because you have yet to demonstrate any kind of insight into my posts personally that I would deem of value.

M: But that may only be a function of the fact that you have been unable to extract the insights that are there waiting for you to see such as this one.

TV: An example would be here where you levy accusations that I extrapolate and/or am insane. Your grammar makes it difficult to understand your point. Do you obfuscate your posts like this on purpose?

M: extrapolation:

1. an act or instance of inferring an unknown from something that is known.

2. Statistics, Mathematics. the act or process of estimating the value of a variable or function outside the tabulated or observed range.

You were able, in short, to rapidly adduce from a tiny data set, fantastically conceived generalities so far outside the observable range as to be, well, quite amazing, dangerously so, I might add. And you do it with such naïve conviction as to suggest you may be insane.

TV: Also where are you from? I would venture not the US. Your grammar and sentence structure is quite odd. The reason I ask about where you are from, is that "sanity" can only properly be judged by a person with the same culture as the person they are analyzing. Things that people do in Africa seem insane to US, but they are not mentally ill. If you are a different culture, you cannot judge my sanity based on what I type.

M: You know the most amazing things and more astonishingly, you seem to believe them. However did you get that way? I have nightmarish visions that were I like you I might enter a room and trip, rolling on the top of my head, there with hands and feet spinning in the air, never to walk again. Of course, if I were in such a position, I would very much see the world as you do.

Great way of avoiding the question, and I am aware of what extrapolate means. You must have some conviction in the things you say in order to be authoritative. Whether you realize it or not my extrapolations are very often correct and I am pretty good at adducing and deducing generalities from specifics. Sometimes, I extend that ability into outright fantasy but continue with the exact same tone in order to make a point. Sometimes, I am even wrong (hard to believe I know).


So where are you from Moonie? Like I said you can't judge my sanity at all if you aren't from my culture so lets hear where you got this weird method of physical analogy. You should know that you aren't particularly good at getting your point across in english, your odd analogies and hatred for proper punctuation make it difficult to understand you.

 

[smackababy]

I am inclined to believe this was an accident, due to the fact that I don't think the sheriff is dumb enough to believe shooting her and claiming an accident is a better avenue of getting away with murder than, say, falsifying a fight and putting a knife in her hand and claiming self defense.

 

[TreVader]

I am inclined to believe this was an accident, due to the fact that I don't think the sheriff is dumb enough to believe shooting her and claiming an accident is a better avenue of getting away with murder than, say, falsifying a fight and putting a knife in her hand and claiming self defense.

Well, he must be a total fucking idiot then because he used that gun every day for years yet somehow, "while he was cleaning it", the gun pointed itself at her head, loaded itself, cocked itself, and fired itself due to his fumbling.


There is ONE way I can imagine this happening: Fat idiot cop is bumbling around with his loaded, cocked gun pointing it at stuff and saying "PEW! PEW! PEW!" when he drops it, it fires and accidentally hits her in the head.


Otherwise he murdered her.

 

[BoberFett]

Well, he must be a total fucking idiot then because he used that gun every day for years yet somehow, "while he was cleaning it", the gun pointed itself at her head, loaded itself, cocked itself, and fired itself due to his fumbling.


There is ONE way I can imagine this happening: Fat idiot cop is bumbling around with his loaded, cocked gun pointing it at stuff and saying "PEW! PEW! PEW!" when he drops it, it fires and accidentally hits her in the head.


Otherwise he murdered her.

This fuckwit has a real problem with facts.

She's still alive.

 

[Moonbeam]

TreVader: Great way of avoiding the question, and I am aware of what extrapolate means.

M: You may know what the word means and still not recognize you don't know the limits of its application. You know nothing and conclude from that you know everything. Insane.

TV: You must have some conviction in the things you say in order to be authoritative.

M: Careful with the grammar. Do you mean me or do you mean yourself when you say 'you'. I would think you must mean yourself since it is you who has attached an insane importance to being authoritative. I don't need to know anything to know you're nuts. In fact that's how I know.

TV: Whether you realize it or not my extrapolations are very often correct and I am pretty good at adducing and deducing generalities from specifics. Sometimes, I extend that ability into outright fantasy but continue with the exact same tone in order to make a point. Sometimes, I am even wrong (hard to believe I know).

M: We need to work to expand that 'Sometimes' and convince you it's not hard to believe at all, but we can call it a start.

TV: So where are you from Moonie? Like I said you can't judge my sanity at all if you aren't from my culture so lets hear where you got this weird method of physical analogy.

M: The pictographic ideation I presented you with was presented to bypass your filters, a painting, as it were, of what you look like in the mirror, a representation of how your ego has warped the non-reality you live in. It came from the juxtaposition of your self-congratulatory boobery against a more sterile and less presumptuous background.

As to where I'm from, what does it matter? Your claims are absurd. I can't judge you if I'm not from your culture? Tell me, does that mean if I am from your culture I will be right? I am right in either case but you have only begun to see it. Logic is cross cultural and there is no justification for the absurd claims you make bases on no evidence. The conviction you have in the nonsense you spew is dangerously insane.

TV: You should know that you aren't particularly good at getting your point across in english, your odd analogies and hatred for proper punctuation make it difficult to understand you.

M: Every stick has two ends, and English is capitalized and your comma should be a semicolon.

 

[Subyman]

This fuckwit has a real problem with facts.

She's still alive.

I'm coming to find out that Trevader makes up his own story to align with his world view. Facts do not matter.

 

[MongGrel]

This fuckwit has a real problem with facts.

She's still alive.

 

[BoberFett]

I'm coming to find out that Trevader makes up his own story to align with his world view. Facts do not matter.

In just about every thread the moron posts in.

 

[WHAMPOM]

I am glad I unload my weapons before cleaning and aim them in a safe direction while unloading. Gosh! Just think how many people I may have killed by cleaning a loaded weapon.

 

[Subyman]

I am glad I unload my weapons before cleaning and aim them in a safe direction while unloading. Gosh! Just think how many people I may have killed by cleaning a loaded weapon.

Good job. Now do that 1000+ times in your life and multiple that by how many gun owners clean their weapons in the US and you get a handful of accidents a year. Statistics!

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm coming to find out that Trevader makes up his own story to align with his world view. Facts do not matter.

I don't know if the facts don't matter, but the lack of them doesn't seem to phase him. Perhaps that is one of the facts to which you refer.

 

[Moonbeam]

I am glad I unload my weapons before cleaning and aim them in a safe direction while unloading. Gosh! Just think how many people I may have killed by cleaning a loaded weapon.

Would those be clean shots?

 

[TreVader]

TreVader: Great way of avoiding the question, and I am aware of what extrapolate means.

M: You may know what the word means and still not recognize you don't know the limits of its application. You know nothing and conclude from that you know everything. Insane.

TV: You must have some conviction in the things you say in order to be authoritative.

M: Careful with the grammar. Do you mean me or do you mean yourself when you say 'you'. I would think you must mean yourself since it is you who has attached an insane importance to being authoritative. I don't need to know anything to know you're nuts. In fact that's how I know.

TV: Whether you realize it or not my extrapolations are very often correct and I am pretty good at adducing and deducing generalities from specifics. Sometimes, I extend that ability into outright fantasy but continue with the exact same tone in order to make a point. Sometimes, I am even wrong (hard to believe I know).

M: We need to work to expand that 'Sometimes' and convince you it's not hard to believe at all, but we can call it a start.

TV: So where are you from Moonie? Like I said you can't judge my sanity at all if you aren't from my culture so lets hear where you got this weird method of physical analogy.

M: The pictographic ideation I presented you with was presented to bypass your filters, a painting, as it were, of what you look like in the mirror, a representation of how your ego has warped the non-reality you live in. It came from the juxtaposition of your self-congratulatory boobery against a more sterile and less presumptuous background.

As to where I'm from, what does it matter? Your claims are absurd. I can't judge you if I'm not from your culture? Tell me, does that mean if I am from your culture I will be right? I am right in either case but you have only begun to see it. Logic is cross cultural and there is no justification for the absurd claims you make bases on no evidence. The conviction you have in the nonsense you spew is dangerously insane.

TV: You should know that you aren't particularly good at getting your point across in english, your odd analogies and hatred for proper punctuation make it difficult to understand you.

M: Every stick has two ends, and English is capitalized and your comma should be a semicolon.

Get back to me when you can answer a single question without going of into an irrelevant tangent on your own perceptions and trying to pick up tiny flaws in my grammar and punctuation. Unlike you I am easily comprehended, and you do yourself no favors by obscuring everything you type with what is obviously a poor attempt to appear to be a native english speaker. You are not deep because you can make a visual analogy that is so convoluted it takes a few seconds to even comprehend.

I think you are Belgian or possibly Italian. You are white, clearly, and not a native english speaker.

 

[smackababy]

I am glad I unload my weapons before cleaning and aim them in a safe direction while unloading. Gosh! Just think how many people I may have killed by cleaning a loaded weapon.

How often to you handle and clean your gun? Do you check your tire pressure, or at least, do a walk around your car before entering it every time? No. At some point, humans become lax in their attention to detail due to becoming to comfortable around certain things. Guns are no different.

We also don't know at what stage of cleaning his gun he was in. Perhaps, he removed the magazine and was in the process of removing the chambered round when it went off?