Thank you DR. Marshall Shockley[/quote]
You have given another compelling argument that is consistent of a man of your mental stature.
I'll be sure to keep that in mind.
The problem in today's politically correct world is that if an idea is presented and is not politically correct, it is instantly assumed to be wrong without any further investigation.
To me, truth comes first, political correctness is a distant second.
In today's world you cannot even pose a controversial question, let alone begin to look for an answer. It seems that in most people, human emotion supercedes logic or the quest for knowledge.
To me, truth comes first, political correctness is a distant second.
In today's world you cannot even pose a controversial question, let alone begin to look for an answer. It seems that in most people, human emotion supercedes logic or the quest for knowledge.
I only read the first page of this mess, so if someone already brought this up...
. This is the United States of America. Unfortunately due to the government indoctrination centers ("public schools") -, most of you probably don't really know what that means. Individuals are (sorry, should be - some wrong-headed laws have been passed) free to associate or not associate with anyone they so choose. The only entities that can be legally forced to integrate are: governments and corporations (artificial entities created by governments).
. Individuals are also free to reap the consequences of their choices. If one chooses to discriminate based on group characteristics - he will eventually suffer negative consequences unless such discrimination is condoned or protected by government. Since the school administration has apparently removed itself from the prom process, whatever the students choose to do is entirely their right - and they will reap the consequences.
. Unfortunately, most of the strife we are still experiencing is the result of the Civil War (a too abrupt change to a situation that was already changing in a more natural way) and its negative sequellae and a class of professional race baiters (leftist/socialist group-thinkers for personal profit/power).
. Individuals' opinions cannot be changed at the point of the government gun - they can only be driven undergound where the lack of air will cause them to fester and boil up in even more negative ways.
. I would encourage the students to make lists of Persona Non Grata (IOW, discriminate on an individual basis) as uncivilized individuals are really the problem anyway, so that they could successfully have an integrated celebration. But since the list (if the students were honest in their choices) would likely be racially unbalanced - the howls of the group-thinkers would arise once again. <sigh>
.bh.
:sun:
. This is the United States of America. Unfortunately due to the government indoctrination centers ("public schools") -, most of you probably don't really know what that means. Individuals are (sorry, should be - some wrong-headed laws have been passed) free to associate or not associate with anyone they so choose. The only entities that can be legally forced to integrate are: governments and corporations (artificial entities created by governments).
. Individuals are also free to reap the consequences of their choices. If one chooses to discriminate based on group characteristics - he will eventually suffer negative consequences unless such discrimination is condoned or protected by government. Since the school administration has apparently removed itself from the prom process, whatever the students choose to do is entirely their right - and they will reap the consequences.
. Unfortunately, most of the strife we are still experiencing is the result of the Civil War (a too abrupt change to a situation that was already changing in a more natural way) and its negative sequellae and a class of professional race baiters (leftist/socialist group-thinkers for personal profit/power).
. Individuals' opinions cannot be changed at the point of the government gun - they can only be driven undergound where the lack of air will cause them to fester and boil up in even more negative ways.
. I would encourage the students to make lists of Persona Non Grata (IOW, discriminate on an individual basis) as uncivilized individuals are really the problem anyway, so that they could successfully have an integrated celebration. But since the list (if the students were honest in their choices) would likely be racially unbalanced - the howls of the group-thinkers would arise once again. <sigh>
.bh.
:sun:
This is America.
I think they should be able to do as they please. As long is not some type of hatred reunion and only in celebration of prom.
I think they should be able to do as they please. As long is not some type of hatred reunion and only in celebration of prom.
I quit reading after the 1st page also. But here is my .02
What is an African-American? Does being white and of European decent make me European-American? I was born in America, and I am an American. The majority of blacks in this country were born in America, they are American too, not African-American.
What about colleges like Grambling, Tuskegee, Tennessee St. Univ., Selma Univ., Morehouse College, Miles College, Howard Univ., Florida A&M, Alcorn St. Univ., the list is endless. Try starting an all white college and see how far you get.
Black History Month? How about White History Month? Wonder how long that would last.
Its funny how blacks dont like to reminded of the fact that it was blacks selling blacks as slaves. By no measure am I saying that slavery was ok, on the contrary I hate that it happened. But the fact of the matter is why should we be paying for something (like not celebrating our history) for something that ended 150 yrs ago?
Try going to get a government job against someone who is black. Most likely they will be hired, not because of their qualifications, but because of their race.
Then throw in Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Every time something bad happens to a black person, they are there with the NAACP saying how someone was mis-treated. Yeah yeah yeah. Keep making an a$$ of yourself Al.
Im not racist either, I have many friends who are black. And even they tell me Al and Jesse are full of it.
Black people have more going for them than they think. Thay have many more open-door opportunities than white people do.
So do I see anything wrong with an all white dance? No. It's no more worse than an all black college or the United Negro College Fund.
What is an African-American? Does being white and of European decent make me European-American? I was born in America, and I am an American. The majority of blacks in this country were born in America, they are American too, not African-American.
What about colleges like Grambling, Tuskegee, Tennessee St. Univ., Selma Univ., Morehouse College, Miles College, Howard Univ., Florida A&M, Alcorn St. Univ., the list is endless. Try starting an all white college and see how far you get.
Black History Month? How about White History Month? Wonder how long that would last.
Its funny how blacks dont like to reminded of the fact that it was blacks selling blacks as slaves. By no measure am I saying that slavery was ok, on the contrary I hate that it happened. But the fact of the matter is why should we be paying for something (like not celebrating our history) for something that ended 150 yrs ago?
Try going to get a government job against someone who is black. Most likely they will be hired, not because of their qualifications, but because of their race.
Then throw in Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Every time something bad happens to a black person, they are there with the NAACP saying how someone was mis-treated. Yeah yeah yeah. Keep making an a$$ of yourself Al.
Im not racist either, I have many friends who are black. And even they tell me Al and Jesse are full of it.
Black people have more going for them than they think. Thay have many more open-door opportunities than white people do.
So do I see anything wrong with an all white dance? No. It's no more worse than an all black college or the United Negro College Fund.
I'm sure you can come up with a better come-back than correcting his grammar.
And btw, when was a gathering of same sex individuals made illegal in the US? That was just dumb of you to say.
and P.S., if we're not OK with a group of all white kids pulling this off, what makes you think we'd be OK with a group of all black kids doing the same thing...that would be a bit hypocritical...don't you think?!
Thinking before typing is a good thing...you should try it.
Cuda1447
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I have skimmed this thread and noticed alot of things. The first thing, and only thing I want to address is the fact that many people are looking at the amount of blacks in certain multi-racial activities and claiming its pretty much whites only anyway. I'd like to point out however that blacks make up only 10% of the population. So when someone says that 90% of the time a white person wins Miss USA then that is about what it should be. If it were 50/50 then there would be some racism towards the whites it would seem.
That said, I don't agree with this white only prom. However there are alot of black only activities that I don't agree with either. BET anyone? How come we don't have a WET tv? (Besides that fact that it'd prob. be a porn channel)
That said, I don't agree with this white only prom. However there are alot of black only activities that I don't agree with either. BET anyone? How come we don't have a WET tv? (Besides that fact that it'd prob. be a porn channel)
Originally posted by: Fausto1
"See? They are a bunch of inbred racist rednecks!"
Its kinda sad that in this day and age we cant get along together.. oh wait we cant.. just look a GWB..[/quote]
Thats about as racist a comment as they come right there....
I was trying to expose the double standards which exist in this country. I believe things should be consistent, and reverse racism or sexism does not make things any better.
If a man wanted to join a private woman's organization, he'd probably be denied. Yet when women want to join a private men's organization such as The Master's golf club, when they get denied they are up in an uproar.
It seems that the laws are not consistent... on one hand they say racism and sexism are not acceptable (when referring to the majority), yet when a minority group wants to enact their own racist policies, it is viewed differently and allowed.
BET is allowed to exist, yet let's see the reaction that comes when someone wants to form a station called "white entertainment television".
I am against both sides of discrimination. Any discrimation is wrong, including reverse discrimination. Two wrongs do not make a right.
I have previously tried to stick to the point. The result was a unilateral flamefest with people attacking me without me doing the same.
That idea failed. Now when I see someone make a wise comment to me, I'll reply in kind.
But anyway I changed my post to make it more productive. I explained my views to him.
I agree. If you can have a miss black pageant, then you can have a miss white pageant. If the idea of a miss white pageant is not acceptable, then a miss black pageant should also be unacceptable. It's a two way street.
O'reilly just doesn't get it.
No one will ever be able to convince me that there is anything wrong with those students having a private prom. As long as the school didn't pay for it or provide the building for the prom, then what the hell are they supposed to do about it? Should the teachers have dressed up in riot gear and shot students with rubber bullets that tried to go to a party that had nothing to do with the school?
No one will ever be able to convince me that there is anything wrong with those students having a private prom. As long as the school didn't pay for it or provide the building for the prom, then what the hell are they supposed to do about it? Should the teachers have dressed up in riot gear and shot students with rubber bullets that tried to go to a party that had nothing to do with the school?
I had a big long reply for this but after thinking about it for a minute why bother. The gist of it was the to cry racism when confronted with something you don't agree with (not to mention facts) simply makes you look ignorant. I doubt you'll see it that way but people need to realize this. Maybe whenever you grow up you'll realize this.
Lets just remember who made this a great country. also realize that things would probably be better in this country if some things were never introduced into the mix.
Are you ready for all the Iraqui refugees that are going to be coming to our country. Or what if Bush sends Troops to Liberia, are you ready for that wave of refugees.
Maybe I shouldnt try to point out the obvious.
Are you ready for all the Iraqui refugees that are going to be coming to our country. Or what if Bush sends Troops to Liberia, are you ready for that wave of refugees.
Maybe I shouldnt try to point out the obvious.
Every body the same, that would be boring.
When you say Latina I hope you are not including the rest of the race, because you have too many races listed.
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