Georgia GOP Gov. Candidate Allegedly Behind Voter Purge

[Indus]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...emp-stacey-abrams_us_5bbe435fe4b0876edaa4d908

Surprising and Shocking? Nope.

Like I said.. they'll steal elections with scotus help.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

North Dakota is at it too. Their new law demands proof of residential street address, regardless of what state ID one might carry.

What’s the big deal you ask? Tens of thousands of residents do not have a residential street address. Many of those natives living on reserves. Since the USPS doesn’t deliver on their land they use PO boxes and they don’t actually have a street address. As such their ID and all of their supporting documents they might use as proof do not meet the new standard.

The law was stayed in April but in September that was overturned. Today the SCOTUS refused to take it up.

http://fortune.com/2018/10/10/supreme-court-north-dakota-voter-id-laws/

 

[dainthomas]

North Dakota is at it too. Their new law demands proof of residential street address, regardless of what state ID one might carry.

What’s the big deal you ask? Tens of thousands of residents do not have a residential street address. Many of those natives living on reserves. Since the USPS doesn’t deliver on their land they use PO boxes and they don’t actually have a street address. As such their ID and all of their supporting documents they might use as proof do not meet the new standard.

The law was stayed in April but in September that was overturned. Today the SCOTUS refused to take it up.

http://fortune.com/2018/10/10/supreme-court-north-dakota-voter-id-laws/

There's zero reason a tribal ID card couldn't be used to vote. It's nothing but blatant disenfranchisement of a group that already barely has a voice. What slime.

 

[woolfe9998]

There's zero reason a tribal ID card couldn't be used to vote. It's nothing but blatant disenfranchisement of a group that already barely has a voice. What slime.

Yes, and they managed to pull this off just now, right before a very close election for the Senate.

 

[Jhhnn]

Georgia's election system is also completely electronic w/ no paper trail. The Georgia GOP wiped the servers after the 2016 election after a lawsuit was filed to audit the results. Add voter suppression to get that belt & suspenders effect.

https://www.google.com/search?q=georgia+election+servers&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1

 

[soundforbjt]

The REAL acts of voter fraud, the GOP.

 

[theeedude]

In Republican America, politicians pick voters.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Why is it that individual states get to pass laws regarding federal elections? (i.e. laws regarding necessary id).

 

[Zorba]

Do other countries require you to register to vote?

How the hell can you require people to have an address to vote? How is that not a clear violation of the constitution? I'm sure this doesn't apply for military living on base or over seas...

 

[Jhhnn]

Why is it that individual states get to pass laws regarding federal elections? (i.e. laws regarding necessary id).

Because the individual states each run their own elections & have from the beginning. It's traditional & was abused even more egregiously in the past. What we're seeing today from the GOP is the Jim Crow comeback tour. The GOP leadership promotes it for their own greedy & wretched reasons while the rank & file goes along because they're afraid to lose. I mean, you know, as if Libs are some king of horrible monsters or something.

 

[Maxima1]

Why is it that individual states get to pass laws regarding federal elections? (i.e. laws regarding necessary id).

It's really absurd considering Bush v. Gore, which found an equal protection violation due to an unequal treatment of votes from not having a uniform standard. Everybody already knows it has shit to do with finding voter fraud. It's all about trying to decrease votes towards the Democrats. The Democrats need to get into the gutter and fight back with court packing. Then rub Bush v. Gore in their face.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Because the individual states each run their own elections & have from the beginning. It's traditional & was abused even more egregiously in the past. What we're seeing today from the GOP is the Jim Crow comeback tour. The GOP leadership promotes it for their own greedy & wretched reasons while the rank & file goes along because they're afraid to lose. I mean, you know, as if Libs are some king of horrible monsters or something.

But why? It's a federal election. I don't understand how/why the states have any kind of legal jurisdiction regarding the regulations/rules/laws for federal elections.

 

[Jhhnn]

But why? It's a federal election. I don't understand how/why the states have any kind of legal jurisdiction regarding the regulations/rules/laws for federal elections.

It's Constitutional & exploitable by the unscrupulous. That's currently the GOP. From 1870 forward States couldn't block men from voting just because they were black so some did it with literacy tests & poll taxes, also disenfranchising a lot of poor whites. Women couldn't vote until some time in the 20's & poll taxes weren't outlawed by constitutional amendment until 1964. The various restrictions placed by the GOP today are just updated versions of how to achieve the same ends which is to win by any means possible.

 

[Maxima1]

It's Constitutional & exploitable by the unscrupulous. That's currently the GOP. From 1870 forward States couldn't block men from voting just because they were black so some did it with literacy tests & poll taxes, also disenfranchising a lot of poor whites. Women couldn't vote until some time in the 20's & poll taxes weren't outlawed by constitutional amendment until 1964. The various restrictions placed by the GOP today are just updated versions of how to achieve the same ends which is to win by any means possible.

When did it become unconstitutional to prohibit interracial marriages? Just because there was an amendment for it doesn't mean that it wasn't already unconstitutional.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

When the 24th Amendment was ratified in 1964, five states still retained a poll tax: Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, Texas and Virginia. The amendment prohibited requiring a poll tax for voters in federal elections. But it was not until 1966 that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6–3 in Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections that poll taxes for any level of elections were unconstitutional. It said these violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

 

[Bitek]

Do other countries require you to register to vote?

How the hell can you require people to have an address to vote? How is that not a clear violation of the constitution? I'm sure this doesn't apply for military living on base or over seas...

Haha. The Constitution...

You say that like they actually cared about it.

 

[trenchfoot]

Yeh, but Trump said there were 3-5 million illegal ballots that got counted as legal in his run for the presidency so obviously there has to be much more restrictive voter's rights laws that must be brought to bear. /s

 

[Zorba]

Haha. The Constitution...

You say that like they actually cared about it.

I know the GOP doesn't, but would think the courts would at least on something this clear cut.

 

[Moonbeam]

Yes, and they managed to pull this off just now, right before a very close election for the Senate.

The people often do not know who God wants to win.

 

[mikeymikec]

Do other countries require you to register to vote?

The UK does. I've never been asked to prove / provide evidence for anything in order to be able to vote.

Letters get sent out to every address in that council's area with options for freepost, free phone call or online registration, and each letter has a unique registration number. I think you have to respond in order to qualify to vote in the next election, whether you were previously registered or not.

The process gets integrated into council tax registration as well so if you move house within the community, the council tax guys ask if you want to be registered to vote for the next election (yes/no question, that's it).

 

[brycejones]

The UK does. I've never been asked to prove / provide evidence for anything in order to be able to vote.

Letters get sent out to every address in that council's area with options for freepost, free phone call or online registration, and each letter has a unique registration number. I think you have to respond in order to qualify to vote in the next election, whether you were previously registered or not.

The process gets integrated into council tax registration as well so if you move house within the community, the council tax guys ask if you want to be registered to vote for the next election (yes/no question, that's it).

You must have a massive voter fraud problem in the UK. Without 15 forms of identification, your parents rental agreements, dna samples, and actual memory of your birth including a selfie with your adult self at the birth how can they be sure you are you?

 

[mikeymikec]

You must have a massive voter fraud problem in the UK. Without 15 forms of identification, your parents rental agreements, dna samples, and actual memory of your birth including a selfie with your adult self at the birth how can they be sure you are you?

Well there's the inevitable showdown that occurs every election between mikeymikec and his seven evil doppelgangers, but that's just all part of the fun.

 

[fskimospy]

The GOP is a minority and they know they are a minority, that’s why they act like this. If you don’t have as many people that support you as support the other guys you have to make sure the other guys’ support doesn’t count.

Sure they try and lie to themselves and us through their concern trolling about voter fraud but they know what they are doing the same as we do. They just don’t care.

 

[soundforbjt]

Anyone notice the right crickets in this thread?

 

[Greenman]

Anyone notice the right crickets in this thread?

Probably because they read the entire story and not just the thread title. There is an accusation, and an explanation. Most here will assume the accusation is absolutely correct and the rebuttal is propaganda from the racist right.

 

[fskimospy]

Probably because they read the entire story and not just the thread title. There is an accusation, and an explanation. Most here will assume the accusation is absolutely correct and the rebuttal is propaganda from the racist right.

If conservatives did read it then they should be as outraged as everyone else is. By their own admission in the story Georgia is using an 'exact match' system to purge their voter rolls, something that is notoriously prone to false positives. Anyone who has ever dealt with a name database would laugh out loud at using this as a standard for purging someone. For example, Jon McSmith could be entered this way in one database and Jon Mc Smith in another. That would get you purged. Or Jonathan McSmith in one database and Jon McSmith in another. That would get you purged too. Does that seem like a good standard to use?

If they are maintaining their voter rolls in this way without malice they are incompetent. I doubt they are incompetent. This is yet another good example though as to why southern states should not have been removed from preclearance status for changing their voting laws.