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George Zimmerman's wife: "I have doubts but I also believe the evidence".

http://www.today.com/news/george-zimmermans-wife-i-have-doubts-i-also-believe-evidence-8C11257699

Intense interview. I don't know how anyone can really stand in support of this guy.

Who punches their father in law in the face, and then pulls out a knife to destroy an I pad.

Didn't his boxing instructor say he was too weak to throw a punch?
So you believe her when she said GZ did not profile TM? Or do you believe everything else she said except that?

BTW...first time posters are always looked at with a jaundiced eye until we get to know you a little better and figure out where you're coming from.
 
By the look of it, It would seem all of you were the Zimmerman supporters I spoke about. But if you have nothing to add why derail this thread?
 
So you believe her when she said GZ did not profile TM? Or do you believe everything else she said except that?

BTW...first time posters are always looked at with a jaundiced eye until we get to know you a little better and figure out where you're coming from.

I believe she believes that. I just don't think she knows what profiling is.

But I generally find her story credible. I can see the moment when he goes into the position she speaks about on the house surveillance video. Watch it and I'll see it too. Also the cop verified he punched her father in the face and broke the iPod.

And from the jail house calls I heard he seemed very controlling.
 
Hell hath no fury...

Be wary of what stupid exes say. Off limits during a clearance review when married. A gold mine for the investigators when divorced.

How is she supposed to get child support if you lose your job!

Stupid!
 
Yea I just watched this video of the interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LWiA9KfT4k

My thoughts remain largely unchanged from last time this issue was in the news.

As Matt Lauer pointed out, there is usually his story, her story, and the truth.

For whatever reason, she's decided it is advantageous to her to feed the already intense hatred for her husband which exists in the media and in the public. Is this for catharsis because he's apparently involved with an ex of his now? Is it payback for that and for not being sufficiently supportive to her (according to her?) is it to lay the groundwork for an upcoming book? Is it to jockey for a more advantageous bargaining position during the divorce proceedings?

Is it all of the above?

I don't know.

I don't dismiss that she may legitimately feel some doubts about him as a person now, but I personally don't put a lot of weight behind that.

To me, someone losing their cool during a contentious divorce situation, after just experiencing one of the more stressful 1.5 year spans anyone will ever go through, and busting an iPad which apparently he owned... doesn't say a lot. It says he doesn't have as good of control over his temper in stressful situations as I myself do, but it doesn't tell me much more than that. It doesn't make him a monster. It doesn't budge the evidence about what went down with Trayvon. The evidence spoke clearly, even Shellie pointed that out in this interview.

Earlier interviews she had before the incident with the iPad were somewhat different. She was still very clear on his innocence at that time, even if she seemed disgusted with him in the context of their personal relationship. Now she's singing a bit different of a tune... now she's saying she has doubts, but that he definitely didn't profile Trayvon, and that she trusts the evidence. Well, dear, the evidence was ALL in his favor. The prosecution literally presented no case of guilt, at all, whatsoever. At all.

I think she's wearing divorce goggles. I wouldn't be too surprised if next time we hear from her (and btw, there really doesn't need to be a next time, and there didn't need to be this time) - she's even more harsh on him.

She talks about how she was sticking by her story that he was threatening them with a gun... a gun we now know was in the truck the whole time. She says he reached into his shirt, but on the video we see the moment she's referring to. He isn't reaching into his shirt... he's tucking the iPad under his left arm, presumably to guard it against her or her father snatching it back from him.

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We can know that's what he's doing because when watching the video, you see that the iPad is in his right hand, and he doesn't drop it or anything before he puts his arm into his left armpit area. You can see the iPad go there with the hand. It is not really physically possible for him to have been grabbing at a gun (which what, was in a side holster under a buttoned shirt against his bare skin? Really?)

She either misinterpreted him stuffing the iPad under his arm as him reaching into his shirt, or she's claiming to have done so to make him seem more menacing.

She admits she saw no gun. We know now it was in the truck. She provoked him by stringing him along on the schedule that weekend about when she'd be there picking up belongings, and then she may have been taking some stuff which was in dispute. He is initially taking pictures with his phone of what they've loaded up into the truck, presumably because he felt some of those items were of disputed ownership.

It is only after she follows him around, filming him with the iPad (and in all likelihood, saying things to him as she did it which were calculated to push his buttons) that he snapped and grabbed the iPad. If he punched his father in law, that is inappropriate, but the father in law not pressing charges is telling... he may have taken the first swing. We don't know what went on between them.

As for what his personal trainer guy said? That's not exactly invalidated by him (possibly) successfully socking an old man in the nose.

In the end, we really just don't know what the exact truth is about what has gone on during this divorce, and specifically that day. There's no denying George acted poorly that day, but without context and an understanding of how people can be passive aggressive and deliberately push someone else toward a reaction... you can't just take one little snapshot in a divorce context, and somehow think you understand all the dynamics.

He may very well be a big douche, jerk, and bully with women he is in relationships with. That's possible.

I supported his exoneration because he hadn't broken the law according to both the law itself, and the overwhelming evidence in the case with Trayvon.

Any revelation that he's a shitty husband or a douche bag, matters not one iota to that determination, or to me.
 
Wait! Stop the presses!

A disgruntled ex-wife who is bitter over recent treatment is now badmouthing the ex-husband?

WE NEED TO ALERT THE MASSES
 
Hell hath no fury...

Be wary of what stupid exes say. Off limits during a clearance review when married. A gold mine for the investigators when divorced.

How is she supposed to get child support if you lose your job!

Stupid!


Agreed. I've had my share of exes too. If it wasn't for that surveillance video, I wouldn't know what to make of her story. But watch it and tell me if her story doesnt wring true.

And sorry. Only psychopaths pull-out a knife to destroy an I pad and punch father in laws in the nose.
 
Yea I just watched this video of the interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LWiA9KfT4k

My thoughts remain largely unchanged from last time this issue was in the news.

As Matt Lauer pointed out, there is usually his story, her story, and the truth.

For whatever reason, she's decided it is advantageous to her to feed the already intense hatred for her husband which exists in the media and in the public. Is this for catharsis because he's apparently involved with an ex of his now? Is it payback for that and for not being sufficiently supportive to her (according to her?) is it to lay the groundwork for an upcoming book? Is it to jockey for a more advantageous bargaining position during the divorce proceedings?

Is it all of the above?

I don't know.

I don't dismiss that she may legitimately feel some doubts about him as a person now, but I personally don't put a lot of weight behind that.

To me, someone losing their cool during a contentious divorce situation, after just experiencing one of the more stressful 1.5 year spans anyone will ever go through, and busting an iPad which apparently he owned... doesn't say a lot. It says he doesn't have as good of control over his temper in stressful situations as I myself do, but it doesn't tell me much more than that. It doesn't make him a monster. It doesn't budge the evidence about what went down with Trayvon. The evidence spoke clearly, even Shellie pointed that out in this interview.

Earlier interviews she had before the incident with the iPad were somewhat different. She was still very clear on his innocence at that time, even if she seemed disgusted with him in the context of their personal relationship. Now she's singing a bit different of a tune... now she's saying she has doubts, but that he definitely didn't profile Trayvon, and that she trusts the evidence. Well, dear, the evidence was ALL in his favor. The prosecution literally presented no case of guilt, at all, whatsoever. At all.

I think she's wearing divorce goggles. I wouldn't be too surprised if next time we hear from her (and btw, there really doesn't need to be a next time, and there didn't need to be this time) - she's even more harsh on him.

She talks about how she was sticking by her story that he was threatening them with a gun... a gun we now know was in the truck the whole time. She says he reached into his shirt, but on the video we see the moment she's referring to. He isn't reaching into his shirt... he's tucking the iPad under his left arm, presumably to guard it against her or her father snatching it back from him.

gtPBDKq.png


We can know that's what he's doing because when watching the video, you see that the iPad is in his right hand, and he doesn't drop it or anything before he puts his arm into his left armpit area. You can see the iPad go there with the hand. It is not really physically possible for him to have been grabbing at a gun (which what, was in a side holster under a buttoned shirt against his bare skin? Really?)

She either misinterpreted him stuffing the iPad under his arm as him reaching into his shirt, or she's claiming to have done so to make him seem more menacing.

She admits she saw no gun. We know now it was in the truck. She provoked him by stringing him along on the schedule that weekend about when she'd be there picking up belongings, and then she may have been taking some stuff which was in dispute. He is initially taking pictures with his phone of what they've loaded up into the truck, presumably because he felt some of those items were of disputed ownership.

It is only after she follows him around, filming him with the iPad (and in all likelihood, saying things to him as she did it which were calculated to push his buttons) that he snapped and grabbed the iPad. If he punched his father in law, that is inappropriate, but the father in law not pressing charges is telling... he may have taken the first swing. We don't know what went on between them.

As for what his personal trainer guy said? That's not exactly invalidated by him (possibly) successfully socking an old man in the nose.

In the end, we really just don't know what the exact truth is about what has gone on during this divorce, and specifically that day. There's no denying George acted poorly that day, but without context and an understanding of how people can be passive aggressive and deliberately push someone else toward a reaction... you can't just take one little snapshot in a divorce context, and somehow think you understand all the dynamics.

He may very well be a big douche, jerk, and bully with women he is in relationships with. That's possible.

I supported his exoneration because he hadn't broken the law according to both the law itself, and the overwhelming evidence in the case with Trayvon.

Any revelation that he's a shitty husband or a douche bag, matters not one iota to that determination, or to me.

That clip is the exact moment I'm taking about. That stance and his hand motion jives with her story 100%. That is a "I have a gun, come closer and I will shoot you" stance.

You seem like a smart guy. But you also seen invested in Zimmerman that you are justifying his bad behavior. That video is clear as day.
From what I read she was supposed to be there and he wasn't. And he was the one initially following her with his camera. Maybe you knew that.
 
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He may very well be a big douche, jerk, and bully with women he is in relationships with. That's possible.

I supported his exoneration because he hadn't broken the law according to both the law itself, and the overwhelming evidence in the case with Trayvon.

Any revelation that he's a shitty husband or a douche bag, matters not one iota to that determination, or to me.
Good summary. He may not be a model husband or decent human being for that matter...but that has nothing to do with his guilt/innocence regarding the shooting as the OP apparently wants to imply. Looks to me that she was looking for trouble from the git-go...and found it.
 
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I found her characterization of him going off on his own after being found not guilty to be absurd.

She described it as a "victory tour."

The man had just spent about a year with his head in the guillotine for no legal reason, but with a very real possibility of the blade dropping... and was finally allowed to get out.

He had an ankle GPS monitor, he had bounties and death threats, and celebrities trying to tweet his address. He had been in hiding, and part of the time in jail. He'd seen the president he voted for, take the side of the common street thug who'd nearly killed him. He saw his local NAACP he tried to work with in getting justice for Sherman Ware, stab him in the back.

His family was under threat, and he would have felt responsible for that. He was described as the "most hated man in America" and he'd put on over 100 lbs while in the eye of a stress vortex, with a very real possibility of going to jail for the rest of his life, and having to be in solitary confinement or be killed by another inmate.

His schooling and job were disrupted, and he will likely never be able to have a normal life again.

Personally, I can completely understand why he'd want to go off on his own and experience the freedom of the open road, drive to Texas and do whatever he did there (I've heard it suggested he visited Ted Nugent's ranch) and visit a gun factory? Not great PR... but he was invited and it was one of the few places he would be welcomed rather than hated.

As for bring her with him? She was still facing perjury charges at the time, and may not have been able to leave the area. I'm not sure on that. Their marriage was on the rocks even before the Trayvon thing. I think they were sticking together because of a common predicament and common enemies. I don't think she really thought the marriage was salvageable, I think she just frames it that way for divorce purposes. Wants to make it seem like it's all his doing.

Victory tour is a ridiculous way to describe it. More like coming up for air.

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LMAO!!! Just another psychopath that's infatuated with George Zimmerman. He was acquitted and will not face any federal charges. Time to move and forget about him.
 
That clip is the exact moment I'm taking about. That stance and his hand motion jives with her story 100%. That is a "I have a gun, come closer and I will shoot you stance."

You seem like a smart guy. But you also seen invested in Zimmerman that you are justifying his bad behavior. That video is clear as day.
From what I read she was supposed to be there and he wasn't. And he was the one initially following her with his camera. Maybe you knew that.
WTF does this have to do with anything? Please cut to the chase.
 
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